Id drop Viney Salem and others before Jefferson. To tbink he is part of the problem is abdurd.

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Its a good point on confidence.

I think its why we just have to play him out in the seniors for the rest of the year and hope that the penny will drop in terms of him knowing just how hard he needs to work if he wants to make it at senior level.

I will give it to him though, unlike some key forwards ive seen, hes not afraid to leap into packs and create a contest. I feel with each experience and a bigger frame, hell start to clunk those marks.

Agree with your comments on MJ. He's usually clean with his hands and a good kick, so I put the dropped chest mark and set shot miskick down to nerves and not skill. I like that he's getting to more contests and having a crack. Keen to see the club stick with him. I think he's got more to gain by playing AFL than VFL at this stage.

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I can see absolutely no reason to expect a different result to our last meeting with the Aints.

Somehow we're favourites but I truly am unable to fathom how or why.

Lyon will be licking his lips surely

Some will think this is pessimistic. It's just how I see it. There's nothing to enthuse watching us play.

Was really hoping to have a bit of a wet-sail trip home to end of season... but we're all at sea and dead in the water currently.

I really would prefer May was playing even if a bit out of sorts but that's not going to be happening.

Is Lever even fit enough to be considered? Does Petty have to come in and defend ?

A long week ahead

Petty playing like he is permanently concussed. Not the answer forward in my view

kento and adams need to come in this week, leave AJ to come in vs pies and he can let loose

Gawn is suffocating the development of a new era of ruckmen that the club needs

Selfish - and I'm dead serious

JVR needs to stay in forward 50 arc

After today

In : Petty Kentfield Johnson Spargo (and Hardie … unbelievably we didn’t pick him as SSP fillin)

(Outs. May, Kolt, XL, Sharp)

Sparrow to be managed for another week. He was knocked out. Should be a minimum 2 week unavailable period.

May, Lever, Henderson unavailable (Hore out season)

Mcvee Petty Turner

Salem Tmcd Bowey

Langdon Rivers Windsor

Chandler Johnson Fritsch

Pickett JVR Melksham

Gawn Trac Clarry

Int: Viney Lindsay Kentfield Langford

Sub Spargo

22 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

After today

In : Petty Kentfield Johnson Spargo (and Hardie … unbelievably we didn’t pick him as SSP fillin)

(Outs. May, Kolt, XL, Sharp)

Sparrow to be managed for another week. He was knocked out. Should be a minimum 2 week unavailable period.

May, Lever, Henderson unavailable (Hore out season)

Mcvee Petty Turner

Salem Tmcd Bowey

Langdon Rivers Windsor

Chandler Johnson Fritsch

Pickett JVR Melksham

Gawn Trac Clarry

Int: Viney Lindsay Kentfield Langford

Sub Spargo

Viney - interchange yes, Salem???

May sent to tribunal. Absolute joke.

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

May sent to tribunal. Absolute joke.

Agree, he had every right to go for the ball in that instant. Didn’t jump or stick out an elbow.

The AFL need to come out and make it crystal clear what they expect the players to do in situations like that. Was May to allow the Blues player to get the ball first and then attempt a tackle? Coz that’s not footy if we are serious.

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

May sent to tribunal. Absolute joke.

If a player doesn’t stray from pursuing the contest and didn’t intentionally aim at an opponent, it should be deemed a ball winning scenario, not careless conduct.

4 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Agree, he had every right to go for the ball in that instant. Didn’t jump or stick out an elbow.

The AFL need to come out and make it crystal clear what they expect the players to do in situations like that. Was May to allow the Blues player to get the ball first and then attempt a tackle? Coz that’s not footy if we are serious.

Just now, jules7 said:

If a player doesn’t stray from pursuing the contest and didn’t intentionally aim at an opponent, it should be deemed a ball winning scenario, not careless conduct.

Yep, but because it’s May/ a Melbourne player he will cop 4 weeks.

My disgust with the AFL grows stronger every day.

I’m certain that if Melbourne ceased to exist I would never watch another game of footy ever again.

53 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Gawn is suffocating the development of a new era of ruckmen that the club needs

Selfish - and I'm dead serious

JVR needs to stay in forward 50 arc

I have some questions about Gawn but I don’t see how in any way he’s to blame for Verrall being not very good and the club not developing good back ups. Plenty of teams have dominant number 1 rucks and still have good back ups coming through.

If we lost a good 23 year old back up it would be a fair concern but we don’t.

Maysie was always going to get reported for the incident

But its been graded the same as Xerri, who close-lined a player while May was fairly contesting the ball

His eyes were on the ball, didnt bump and was half a second from intercepting the possession

4 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

But its been graded the same as Xerri, who close-lined a player while May was fairly contesting the ball

It must have been graded higher, hence he’s being sent directly to the tribunal. That means the AFL are asking for 4+ weeks.

Absolutely mind boggling.

Im fine for May to cop something under 'Brayshaw' ruling and the small brace / lift of the arm.

It's closer to 0 than 6. Ultimately - both players attacked the ball in identical fashion, and vossy praising the Carlton player. Can't say he did everything right and May everything wrong simultaneously.

I’m a Jeffo fan but I think the moment was too big for him and I’ve got no issues sending him back to Casey before he gets more in his head. Still plenty of games to get him more chances.

I’m a firm no on Kentfield because he just doesn’t have the endurance base. He’s a talent, let’s get him a preseason.

So May and Jeffo out, Petty back and AJ or Petty forward and Adams. Don’t have a strong opinion either way.

As for the smalls: some combination for Sparrow, Spargo perhaps Laurie for Kolt, Sharp maybe Lindsay for a full game at Casey.

Howes for Salo, McVee. Maybe but unlikely.

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Yep, but because it’s May/ a Melbourne player he will cop 4 weeks.

My disgust with the AFL grows stronger every day.

I’m certain that if Melbourne ceased to exist I would never watch another game of footy ever again.

I’ve loved this game my whole life, but what the AFL is becoming is hard to watch. Players are being punished for playing the game the right way with eyes only for the ball, and it’s turning passionate fans like us away. The game I grew up with respected fairness, physicality, and footy instincts. Now it feels like a lottery decided bye the media in a tribunal room. It’s not just frustrating, it’s heartbreaking.

11 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

I have some questions about Gawn but I don’t see how in any way he’s to blame for Verrall being not very good and the club not developing good back ups. Plenty of teams have dominant number 1 rucks and still have good back ups coming through.

If we lost a good 23 year old back up it would be a fair concern but we don’t.

Jacko walked and Grundy walked

Not one Casey ruckman has been given a run this year, except for AJ (who ain't a ruckman)

I'll just leave this here

9 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Jacko walked and Grundy walked

Not one Casey ruckman has been given a run this year, except for AJ (who ain't a ruckman)

I'll just leave this here

Gawn is the greatest ruck of all time and likely the AA ruck this year.

You are running one of the all time worst arguments we’ve ever seen on Demonland.

15 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It must have been graded higher, hence he’s being sent directly to the tribunal. That means the AFL are asking for 4+ weeks.

Absolutely mind boggling.

Apparently not:

8 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Jacko walked and Grundy walked

Not one Casey ruckman has been given a run this year, except for AJ (who ain't a ruckman)

I'll just leave this here

Jackson did not walk he left to go home under enormous family pressure. And he would come back in a heartbeat. Gawn famously told Goody to leave him in the ruck in the third quarter of the GF because he was doing so well.

Calling Gawn selfish is showing that you have NFI how many sacrifices this man makes for this club.

The lack of respect for Gawn, the greatest ruckman of the modern era, is a complete disgrace.

Find a ruck on any AFL list who would have a bigger influence on our game than Gawn… I’ll wait.

19 hours ago, Random Task said:

I don't get what we're doing with our younger players.

We sub tholstrup only 5 minutes into the 3rd and then his replacement in Lindsay spends the last 10minutes of the game on the bench.

Are we playing the kids or not?

Haven’t u heard from Goodwin that we are building something special but no one but Goodwin understands what it is (not even the players) this includes player selection.

Don't expect us to win anymore matches this season. For those who have been long term supporters it is back to the past for us. We promise to deliver [censored] and that's what we will get.

We should drop players under the guise of being managed so as not to hurt anyone's feeling besides we don't want senior to disadvantage the Casey team.

End of year we give Petracca to Collingwood for a 3rd rounder and Oliver for a 4th rounder. We be able to watch many Pies v Cats Grand Finals.

[censored] YAYYYYY!!!!

Sorry wrong thread 😂

Collingwood losing by a point will do strange things to one’s mind 😅

Edited July 20Jul 20 by Ghostwriter

13 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Jackson did not walk he left to go home under enormous family pressure. And he would come back in a heartbeat. Gawn famously told Goody to leave him in the ruck in the third quarter of the GF because he was doing so well.

Calling Gawn selfish is showing that you have NFI how many sacrifices this man makes for this club.

The lack of respect for Gawn, the greatest ruckman of the modern era, is a complete disgrace.

Find a ruck on any AFL list who would have a bigger influence on our game than Gawn… I’ll wait.

Settle down

I just think he has stifled/circumvented a 2nd ruck option - moving forward....

What's wrong with that?