1 minute ago, DemonOX said:

Yep love 2 seasons of bottom 4 finishes and 2 seasons before that of straight sets final losses.

We are going swimmingly nothing to see here!

FYI Richmond are one win behind us that’s how well we are going but our coach is all over it. [censored].

Haha yeah but its not the coaches vault.

Probably one of the absolute worst takes from old mate bingers

1 minute ago, GS_1905 said:

We are big average, yes, but pull your head of the sand. The umpiring is absolutely f’d.

Didn't lose us the game.

Our own ineptitude did that for us.

3 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

Exactly. Have any of these morons calling for the coaches head seen the stats? Did they actually watch the game? That was appalling umpiring.

I watched the game.

I see a better group of players who are confused with a failing system. Often flat footed and unsure. Champions like Trac having little influence.

I think we missed the chance to fire Goodwin, he’s staying. But my God he needs to get more out of the potential of this list. Make no mistake, he’s failing.

What are you seeing?

5 minutes ago, Buzzy said:

Another dismal display of skills. Every attempted chain was painful to watch.

The discipline was also junior level.

Tholstrup needs a permanent rest, bring in K Brown so we can have a look at something with potential.

We lost to an understrength Carlton. Seriously.

Buzzy, I just feel Brown in has a touch of 'deck chairs on the Titanic' about it. If he's right to go, give Sestan an extended run. Or play Ricky Mentha.

So, the umpires are to blame for a poorly skilled side by hand and foot; a side that struggles with football nous and a game plan that's not working. But it's the umpires' fault, they make fewer mistakes than players. It's time to drop Salem, revamp the midfield, and persist with it for the last five games. As for Jefferson, yes, he had some bad moments, but give him the last five games to confirm whether he can make it. In the end, this club needs to make some serious decisions at season's end, and it must take the hard decisions to fix it.

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Haha yeah but its not the coaches vault.

Probably one of the absolute worst takes from old mate bingers

How's mega-coach Alistair Clarkson going at North in his third year?

Didn't you watch the game? You didn't witness the stitch up?

This happens time and time against this rubbish team and the best some of our 'supporters' can do is bag our own.

To be clear. We didn't lose this game, the umpires won it for Carlton. If you can't see that - you are part of the problem!

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

We are genuinely a bang average footy club.

Our skills are absolutely deplorable and probably the worse in the AFL competition.

Old players are completely washed up and cooked.

Makes me sick to think we've got another 12 months of Goodwin rubbish.

Agreed

The Club has to make some very Serious decisions, starting in September

We cannot take the same Template into Next Year.

New Gameplan….??

This list is not prepared properly for Games

Skills, Decision Making, Running to make Space.

No job should be Safe in The football Department, come September

You cannot switch on for 5 minutes, then drop off again.

That’s Coaching and Hi Performance Conditioning

Jefferson was like van rooyen last year. Nearly held his marks. His kicking needs work though. Yes he nailed that goal but butchered many

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Just now, BigBadBustling said:

Didn't you watch the game? You didn't witness the stitch up?

This happens time and time against this rubbish team and the best some of our 'supporters' can do is bag our own.

To be clear. We didn't lose this game, the umpires won it for Carlton. If you can't see that - you are part of the problem!

What a crock of [censored]. A full game of errors, poor disposal and lack of effort and you choose a few decisions to define the game.

1 minute ago, demon3165 said:

So, the umpires are to blame for a poorly skilled side by hand and foot; a side that struggles with football nous and a game plan that's not working. But it's the umpires' fault, they make fewer mistakes than players. It's time to drop Salem, revamp the midfield, and persist with it for the last five games. As for Jefferson, yes, he had some bad moments, but give him the last five games to confirm whether he can make it. In the end, this club needs to make some serious decisions at season's end, and it must take the hard decisions to fix it.

I’m with you… but Salem? He was ok tonight. He’s had solid games this year.

1 minute ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

Not sure what to make of Jeffo’s game. He could actually be really good if he wasn’t so bad if that makes sense. I’d give him a few more weeks

Jeffo looked like he was getting to the right spots, which shows he's learning, but his decision making was diabolical tonight. I'm pretty sure every one of his disposals in the first half led to a turnover.

On the other hand, he laid some great smothers inside forward 50 and clunked a couple. Nailed that late game set shot under pressure as well.

Just now, Return to Glory said:

Buzzy, I just feel Brown in has a touch of 'deck chairs on the Titanic' about it. If he's right to go, give Sestan an extended run. Or play Ricky Mentha.

Sestan hasnt played for about 5 weeks. Not only was he not even in consideration prior to injury but he'll need a good block of games in good form.

At least Brown is a tackling machine and would add forward half pressure.

Just now, dees189227 said:

Jefferson was like van rooyen last year. Nearly held his marks. His kicking needs work.

No. His country league football needs work. He will be at Waubra next year

1 minute ago, No10 said:

I watched the game.

I see a better group of players who are confused with a failing system. Often flat footed and unsure. Champions like Trac having little influence.

I think we missed the chance to fire Goodwin, he’s staying. But my God he needs to get more out of the potential of this list. Make no mistake, he’s failing.

What are you seeing?

I see players unsure of their roles.

4 minutes ago, Howard_Grimes said:

Didn't lose us the game.

Our own ineptitude did that for us.

Both did. You can lose a game in many different ways.

5 minutes ago, Hopeful Demon said:

Imagine if Pickett wasn't in this side? This season would be completely unwatchable and it's painful enough already.

I actually feel bad for Kossie. Choosing money over success couldn’t have been an easy decision.

1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

Jefferson was like van rooyen last year. Nearly held his marks. His kicking needs work.

The irony is that at Casey his kicking is the best part of his game. I think it’s a lack of confidence and nerves. He is actually quite skilled for a big guy.

Kosi is basically the only player in our team who I want touching the ball from anywhere 65m-5m out from goal.

Just now, bing181 said:
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How's mega-coach Alistair Clarkson going at North in his third year?

North was a basket case until he got there. he has a bunch of kids that are going to take time to develop, but there are signs, unlike us, a premiership in 21, and are going backward at a speed of knots.

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sestan hasnt played for about 5 weeks. Not only was he not even in consideration prior to injury but he'll need a good block of games in good form.

At least Brown is a tackling machine and would add forward half pressure.

Brown is an absolute butcher of the football. No thanks.

3 minutes ago, BigBadBustling said:

Didn't you watch the game? You didn't witness the stitch up?

This happens time and time against this rubbish team and the best some of our 'supporters' can do is bag our own.

To be clear. We didn't lose this game, the umpires won it for Carlton. If you can't see that - you are part of the problem!

Blame the umpires but turn a complete blind eye to the deplorable skill level from our players on show tonight.

If you're blaming our loss purely on umpire, then you simply have problems yourself.

It's hard to beat the umpires but it's harder to beat an average side with below average execution.

There were some good signs from some of the younger guys. Pickett is a generational talent, Langford is phenomenal, JVR is presenting and marking again and Jefferson dropped a few easy ones, but clunked a few good ones and worked himself into the game. Let them run the year out and with another pre-season they can both go up a level.

Rivers and Langford need to be moved into the midfield, it seems like such an obvious move but it's clearly one that will not happen anytime soon, I think partly because Viney and Oliver lack positional versatility. Very strange that Petracca isn't playing in the forward line more with Pickett able to pick up the slack in the midfield.

Having said that, the list is better than what we're dishing up, so I understand why people are disappointed. We need to upgrade Salem to kicking coach because he's one of the few guys (alongside the 19 year old Langford) who can consistently hit that 20 metre kick and the game is heading towards if you can't do that, you're going to struggle to win games.

Meanwhile Rich have won 5 games for the year and have completely turned their list over.

1 minute ago, SPC said:

What a crock of [censored]. A full game of errors, poor disposal and lack of effort and you choose a few decisions to define the game.

Ok, so you're one of them.

That game full of errors got us very close to winning, but what changed to stop us from doing so? Have a little think now for a change and you'll work it out.

If Goodwin goes we'll spend 10 years at the bottom. Is that what you want?

Where were all the foxtel warriors when Xerri knocked Swallow out.