21 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

Can’t believe he kept a straight face when he said our young key forwards are super exciting

Agree. They are underwhelming. Perhaps strangely I have high hopes in Kentfield if we can get him on the park. Jefferson is a bust IMO

For mine its the small forwards we need more of. Hardly any big key forwards have kicked bags on GF day. Its the smalls like CCameron and ZBailey that have prevailed.

Since 2000 These are the only players that have kicked 3 goals or more and there are hardly any talls/KPFs in there.

• 2025 GF

  Dempsey 4, McLuggage 4, Bailey 3, C Cameron 4

• 2024 GF

  Ah Chee 4, Lohman 4, L Parker 3

• 2023 GF

  C Cameron 3, J Daniher 3, B Hill 4

• 2022 GF

  Stengle 4, Hawkins 3, ISmith 3,

• 2021 GF

  Fritsch 6, Brown 3, Bontempelli 3, Treloar 3

• 2020 GF

  D Martin 4

• 2019 GF

  J Reiwoldt 5, D Martin 4

• 2018 GF

  De Goey 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2017 GF

  J Graham 3

• 2016 GF

  Boyd 3, Dixon 3, Picken 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2015 GF

  Gunston 4, ISmith 3

• 2014 GF

  Franklin 5, Roughead 5, Bruest 2, Langford 3

• 2013 GF

  Gunston 4, Pavlich 3

• 2012 GF 

  Franklin 3

• 2011 GF

  TCLoke 3, Krakoer 3, S Johnson4, Bartel 3, Hawkins 3, Varcoe 3

• 2010 GF

  Nil

• 2009 GF

  Chapman 3

• 2008 GF

  Williams 3

• 2007 GF

  Mooney 5, Chapman 4, S johnson 4, N Ablett 3

• 2006 GF 

  Q Lynch 3, M O;Loughlin 3, N Davis 3

• 2005 GF

  Nil

• 2004 GF

  Wanganeen 4, Akermanis 3, Bradshaw 3, Notting 3

• 2003 GF

  Didak 3, Akermanis 5, A Lynch 4

• 2002 GF

  A Lynch 4, Rocca 4, J Fraser 3

• 2001 GF

  MLloyd 5, Lucas 4, L Power 3

• 2000 GF

  Barnard 4, Lloyd 4, Caracella 3, Farmer 3, Powell 3

3 hours ago, mo64 said:

You can argue that our young forwards have some potential, but you can't argue that Tim Lamb/the club have questionable judgement when assessing players that have been in the league more than 2 years.

Our recruitment from other clubs over the past 3 years has been a disaster. Who was proven right with the Grundy trade? Those on here who questioned his fit in the team or the club.

It's no different to fans questioning Goodwin's game plan, and Demonland happy clappers using the argument that they know more than you, so shut up.

Based on his track record, I take what Tim Lamb has to say with a grain of salt.

This isn’t about players we’ve drafted, Goody’s gameplan or DL happy clappers. This is simply about Tim Lamb being super excited about our young key forwards and I expressed my opinion about the reasons for why he is.

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Agree. They are underwhelming. Perhaps strangely I have high hopes in Kentfield if we can get him on the park. Jefferson is a bust IMO

For mine its the small forwards we need more of. Hardly any big key forwards have kicked bags on GF day. Its the smalls like CCameron and ZBailey that have prevailed.

Since 2000 These are the only players that have kicked 3 goals or more and there are hardly any talls/KPFs in there.

• 2025 GF

  Dempsey 4, McLuggage 4, Bailey 3, C Cameron 4

• 2024 GF

  Ah Chee 4, Lohman 4, L Parker 3

• 2023 GF

  C Cameron 3, J Daniher 3, B Hill 4

• 2022 GF

  Stengle 4, Hawkins 3, ISmith 3,

• 2021 GF

  Fritsch 6, Brown 3, Bontempelli 3, Treloar 3

• 2020 GF

  D Martin 4

• 2019 GF

  J Reiwoldt 5, D Martin 4

• 2018 GF

  De Goey 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2017 GF

  J Graham 3

• 2016 GF

  Boyd 3, Dixon 3, Picken 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2015 GF

  Gunston 4, ISmith 3

• 2014 GF

  Franklin 5, Roughead 5, Bruest 2, Langford 3

• 2013 GF

  Gunston 4, Pavlich 3

• 2012 GF 

  Franklin 3

• 2011 GF

  TCLoke 3, Krakoer 3, S Johnson4, Bartel 3, Hawkins 3, Varcoe 3

• 2010 GF

  Nil

• 2009 GF

  Chapman 3

• 2008 GF

  Williams 3

• 2007 GF

  Mooney 5, Chapman 4, S johnson 4, N Ablett 3

• 2006 GF 

  Q Lynch 3, M O;Loughlin 3, N Davis 3

• 2005 GF

  Nil

• 2004 GF

  Wanganeen 4, Akermanis 3, Bradshaw 3, Notting 3

• 2003 GF

  Didak 3, Akermanis 5, A Lynch 4

• 2002 GF

  A Lynch 4, Rocca 4, J Fraser 3

• 2001 GF

  MLloyd 5, Lucas 4, L Power 3

• 2000 GF

  Barnard 4, Lloyd 4, Caracella 3, Farmer 3, Powell 3

You're right - I only counted 22.

15 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

You're right - I only counted 22.

Way more small fwds have dominated GFs - just sayin

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Agree. They are underwhelming. Perhaps strangely I have high hopes in Kentfield if we can get him on the park. Jefferson is a bust IMO

For mine its the small forwards we need more of. Hardly any big key forwards have kicked bags on GF day. Its the smalls like CCameron and ZBailey that have prevailed.

Since 2000 These are the only players that have kicked 3 goals or more and there are hardly any talls/KPFs in there.

• 2025 GF

  Dempsey 4, McLuggage 4, Bailey 3, C Cameron 4

• 2024 GF

  Ah Chee 4, Lohman 4, L Parker 3

• 2023 GF

  C Cameron 3, J Daniher 3, B Hill 4

• 2022 GF

  Stengle 4, Hawkins 3, ISmith 3,

• 2021 GF

  Fritsch 6, Brown 3, Bontempelli 3, Treloar 3

• 2020 GF

  D Martin 4

• 2019 GF

  J Reiwoldt 5, D Martin 4

• 2018 GF

  De Goey 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2017 GF

  J Graham 3

• 2016 GF

  Boyd 3, Dixon 3, Picken 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2015 GF

  Gunston 4, ISmith 3

• 2014 GF

  Franklin 5, Roughead 5, Bruest 2, Langford 3

• 2013 GF

  Gunston 4, Pavlich 3

• 2012 GF 

  Franklin 3

• 2011 GF

  TCLoke 3, Krakoer 3, S Johnson4, Bartel 3, Hawkins 3, Varcoe 3

• 2010 GF

  Nil

• 2009 GF

  Chapman 3

• 2008 GF

  Williams 3

• 2007 GF

  Mooney 5, Chapman 4, S johnson 4, N Ablett 3

• 2006 GF 

  Q Lynch 3, M O;Loughlin 3, N Davis 3

• 2005 GF

  Nil

• 2004 GF

  Wanganeen 4, Akermanis 3, Bradshaw 3, Notting 3

• 2003 GF

  Didak 3, Akermanis 5, A Lynch 4

• 2002 GF

  A Lynch 4, Rocca 4, J Fraser 3

• 2001 GF

  MLloyd 5, Lucas 4, L Power 3

• 2000 GF

  Barnard 4, Lloyd 4, Caracella 3, Farmer 3, Powell 3

I doubt there’s been too many key forwards who have left a GF feeling anything other than completely battered.

The nature of these games is totally different and the smalls thrive because of the numbers drawn to aerial contests.

You definitely need big forwards in a GF

3 hours ago, BKKBooga said:

King will be watching Lamb very closely

Seriously? Lamb doesn't answer to King.

And if you have an issue with players we're recruiting, for the thousandth time, you need to be speaking to Jason Taylor who's head of recruitment and is also on the list management committee.

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Agree. They are underwhelming. Perhaps strangely I have high hopes in Kentfield if we can get him on the park. Jefferson is a bust IMO

For mine its the small forwards we need more of. Hardly any big key forwards have kicked bags on GF day. Its the smalls like CCameron and ZBailey that have prevailed.

Since 2000 These are the only players that have kicked 3 goals or more and there are hardly any talls/KPFs in there.

• 2025 GF

  Dempsey 4, McLuggage 4, Bailey 3, C Cameron 4

• 2024 GF

  Ah Chee 4, Lohman 4, L Parker 3

• 2023 GF

  C Cameron 3, J Daniher 3, B Hill 4

• 2022 GF

  Stengle 4, Hawkins 3, ISmith 3,

• 2021 GF

  Fritsch 6, Brown 3, Bontempelli 3, Treloar 3

• 2020 GF

  D Martin 4

• 2019 GF

  J Reiwoldt 5, D Martin 4

• 2018 GF

  De Goey 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2017 GF

  J Graham 3

• 2016 GF

  Boyd 3, Dixon 3, Picken 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2015 GF

  Gunston 4, ISmith 3

• 2014 GF

  Franklin 5, Roughead 5, Bruest 2, Langford 3

• 2013 GF

  Gunston 4, Pavlich 3

• 2012 GF 

  Franklin 3

• 2011 GF

  TCLoke 3, Krakoer 3, S Johnson4, Bartel 3, Hawkins 3, Varcoe 3

• 2010 GF

  Nil

• 2009 GF

  Chapman 3

• 2008 GF

  Williams 3

• 2007 GF

  Mooney 5, Chapman 4, S johnson 4, N Ablett 3

• 2006 GF 

  Q Lynch 3, M O;Loughlin 3, N Davis 3

• 2005 GF

  Nil

• 2004 GF

  Wanganeen 4, Akermanis 3, Bradshaw 3, Notting 3

• 2003 GF

  Didak 3, Akermanis 5, A Lynch 4

• 2002 GF

  A Lynch 4, Rocca 4, J Fraser 3

• 2001 GF

  MLloyd 5, Lucas 4, L Power 3

• 2000 GF

  Barnard 4, Lloyd 4, Caracella 3, Farmer 3, Powell 3

It's a little misleading judging team or forward line success merely from GF performances. While you have to play well in them if you can't even make them who cares. If we could do a straight swap of McVee for Jeremy Cameron are you gonna argue we shouldn't?

25 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Seriously? Lamb doesn't answer to King.

And if you have an issue with players we're recruiting, for the thousandth time, you need to be speaking to Jason Taylor who's head of recruitment and is also on the list management committee.

JT's role involves monitoring players who are not on AFL lists. He's not attending AFL games, and speaking with player managers to determine who is gettable. That is Tim Lamb's role.

In order to recruit a player from another club, you would need to know their salary demands and how it would need to be structured to fit in our cap. Once again, that is Tim Lamb's role.

Sure, Lamb wouldn't be working alone, but recruits from other clubs comes under his role, not JT.

42 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Seriously? Lamb doesn't answer to King.

And if you have an issue with players we're recruiting, for the thousandth time, you need to be speaking to Jason Taylor who's head of recruitment and is also on the list management committee.

hmm.. Taylor and Lamb will be extensively working with King regardless of whatever you say.

Just now, BKKBooga said:

hmm.. Taylor and Lamb will be extensively working with King regardless of whatever you say.

Thousandth time???

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Sure, Lamb wouldn't be working alone, but recruits from other clubs comes under his role, not JT.

Jason Taylor

"In late 2012 I was appointed National Recruiting Manager of the Melbourne Football Club; duties include Managing the National/International recruiting and talent Identification programs, List Management Committee and player selection in the National and Rookie Drafts."

Notwithstanding the above, your claim that Taylor suddenly stops monitoring players once they're on an AFL list is ... mind-boggling.

8 minutes ago, BKKBooga said:

Taylor and Lamb will be extensively working with King regardless of whatever you say.

You didn't need the "extensively". Also widely discussed, head coaches participate in the process but are just one voice/vote. Chris Scott and others have spoken about it.

4 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Jason Taylor

"In late 2012 I was appointed National Recruiting Manager of the Melbourne Football Club; duties include Managing the National/International recruiting and talent Identification programs, List Management Committee and player selection in the National and Rookie Drafts."

Notwithstanding the above, your claim that Taylor suddenly stops monitoring players once they're on an AFL list is ... mind-boggling.

International is going well...if you don't take MFC into consideration.

On 30/09/2025 at 17:05, doomsday dee said:

3 talls,3 smalls,one small has to defend and it ain't Bowie(to small) or Salem(to slow)so it would be another year defending or change clubs

Wasn't he tried in the middle for a bit in preseason / early game without impact, might have been last year?

5 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

International is going well...if you don't take MFC into consideration.

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Agree. They are underwhelming. Perhaps strangely I have high hopes in Kentfield if we can get him on the park. Jefferson is a bust IMO

For mine its the small forwards we need more of. Hardly any big key forwards have kicked bags on GF day. Its the smalls like CCameron and ZBailey that have prevailed.

Since 2000 These are the only players that have kicked 3 goals or more and there are hardly any talls/KPFs in there.

• 2025 GF

  Dempsey 4, McLuggage 4, Bailey 3, C Cameron 4

• 2024 GF

  Ah Chee 4, Lohman 4, L Parker 3

• 2023 GF

  C Cameron 3, J Daniher 3, B Hill 4

• 2022 GF

  Stengle 4, Hawkins 3, ISmith 3,

• 2021 GF

  Fritsch 6, Brown 3, Bontempelli 3, Treloar 3

• 2020 GF

  D Martin 4

• 2019 GF

  J Reiwoldt 5, D Martin 4

• 2018 GF

  De Goey 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2017 GF

  J Graham 3

• 2016 GF

  Boyd 3, Dixon 3, Picken 3, J Kennedy 3

• 2015 GF

  Gunston 4, ISmith 3

• 2014 GF

  Franklin 5, Roughead 5, Bruest 2, Langford 3

• 2013 GF

  Gunston 4, Pavlich 3

• 2012 GF 

  Franklin 3

• 2011 GF

  TCLoke 3, Krakoer 3, S Johnson4, Bartel 3, Hawkins 3, Varcoe 3

• 2010 GF

  Nil

• 2009 GF

  Chapman 3

• 2008 GF

  Williams 3

• 2007 GF

  Mooney 5, Chapman 4, S johnson 4, N Ablett 3

• 2006 GF 

  Q Lynch 3, M O;Loughlin 3, N Davis 3

• 2005 GF

  Nil

• 2004 GF

  Wanganeen 4, Akermanis 3, Bradshaw 3, Notting 3

• 2003 GF

  Didak 3, Akermanis 5, A Lynch 4

• 2002 GF

  A Lynch 4, Rocca 4, J Fraser 3

• 2001 GF

  MLloyd 5, Lucas 4, L Power 3

• 2000 GF

  Barnard 4, Lloyd 4, Caracella 3, Farmer 3, Powell 3

A tall forward is more important to stop the easy intercept marking. Oscar played close on both Moore and DeKoning in their last two games and was succcessful while Neale played loose on Andrews and he had a ball. Maybe heath could fill that role. But you are correct they either have to kick goals or allow others to kick them.

2 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

This isn’t about players we’ve drafted, Goody’s gameplan or DL happy clappers. This is simply about Tim Lamb being super excited about our young key forwards and I expressed my opinion about the reasons for why he is.

Anyone who gets "super excited" about our young key forwards who got pantsed by Frankston's country footballers probably has a low excitement threshold.

14 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Jason Taylor

"In late 2012 I was appointed National Recruiting Manager of the Melbourne Football Club; duties include Managing the National/International recruiting and talent Identification programs, List Management Committee and player selection in the National and Rookie Drafts."

Notwithstanding the above, your claim that Taylor suddenly stops monitoring players once they're on an AFL list is ... mind-boggling.

So who's role is it to coordinate all the scouts around the country?

And do you seriously think that JT is talking to player managers from other clubs?

The coaches would be well aware of the capabilities of players on other lists. The ins and outs of contracts would fall under Lamb.

Do you think that Lamb spends all year just updating his salary cap spreadsheet?

1 minute ago, Cranky Franky said:

Anyone who gets "super excited" about our young key forwards who got pantsed by Frankston's country footballers probably has a low excitement threshold.

You’re basing the appraisal on one game? I’m sure Tim Lamb isn’t.

15 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

You’re basing the appraisal on one game? I’m sure Tim Lamb isn’t.

I've saw about 8 Casey games. A more accurate assessment would be "I'm hopeful that Luker & Jeffo will develop into regular AFL players".

Super excited is definitely hubris.

1 minute ago, Cranky Franky said:

I've saw about 8 Casey games. A more accurate assessment would be "I'm hopeful that Luker & Jeffo will develop into regular AFL players".

Super excited is definitely hubris.

That’s YOUR assessment, but it’s subjective, isn’t it.

Besides, I don’t think it’s hubristic. It’s not like Lamb credits himself alone with the progress of our young key forwards.

What date is the Happy clapper Vs Eye-ores match? It's been a while but I'm happy to line up in the forward pocket for the mighty Clappers.

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

Seriously? Lamb doesn't answer to King.

And if you have an issue with players we're recruiting, for the thousandth time, you need to be speaking to Jason Taylor who's head of recruitment and is also on the list management committee.

1 hour ago, BKKBooga said:

Thousandth time???

Biggest exaggerator in the world.

1 hour ago, mo64 said:

So who's role is it to coordinate all the scouts around the country?

Taylor.

Lamb does all the negotiations, list strategy, contracts, hustling, yadda yadda.

Which is why after working a full-on 40 hour week he's not getting up on a Saturday morning to stand in the cold at suburban footy ovals watching fringe AFL players like Campbell and Heath running round in the VFL.

3 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Biggest exaggerator in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole