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24 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

If you canā€™t see the club failed to capitalise on our only legitimate Premiership window in 60 years by not recruiting a ready made KF.

Then thereā€™s no hope for you.Ā 

I definitely agree with you but I reckon we had no money in the cap to make this happen.

Hence the drafting of Shaq attack, Majak, etc.

Ben Brown was meant to be the spearhead, he was meant to be our man from 2021-2024.

We only got 20ā€25 good games out of himĀ 

someone needed to go before this was viable.

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    A raft of issues this week that Iā€™m sure will be spoken about at length, but one thing in particular Iā€™d like to hear the panels thoughts on is the move of Ed Langdon to a CBA midfielderĀ 

    To me itā€™s an absolute disasterclass in tactics to move one of the most reliable wingman in the comp to the midfield at almost 30 years of ageĀ 

    Ed was routinely out positioned and unable to effect contests, and any benefit his aerobic capacity might bring is lost when he constantly sat back and allowed Northā€™s mids to get three or four steps on him (although he wasnā€™t alone in that regard)

    The slap in the face is that we have Trent Rivers (a player who played in there for half of last year and trained there all summer) and Harvey Langford (a genuine mid already racking them up at Casey) ready and able to step into that role without using bandaid solutions like bringing in LangdonĀ 

    I know Goody has strengths as a coach, but his personnel and positioning decisions are baffling at times, and it doesnā€™t inspire a lot of confidence going forwardĀ 

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    PLEASE give me with something positive, no matter how small, on which I can pin my hopes in the lead up to GCS. Ā Thanks in advance Binnie!

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    What are your thoughts on Goody bringing up the Gawn "issue" i thought that was a mistake.Ā  And after a year of being in the media spotlight, this dragged us straight back in.Ā  I assume he asked Max and hope all is OK.Ā  But thought that should be out of the media.Ā  Was a strange thing to say.

    Poor performance, but I won't jump at shadows just yet, Collingwood were wooden spooners after round 0.Ā 

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    12 hours ago, jane02 said:

    Couldnā€™t agree more. Absolutely disgusting behaviour. This person should get named and shamed. The players donā€™t go out to lose each week and whilst it wasnā€™t the result we wanted ( far from it) hurling abuse like that is not ok. Go Dees

    I'd say they should be suspended from attending the next 3 games or so.Ā  We're not Carlton or Pie supporters!

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    10 hours ago, dice said:

    Hope you're not suggesting XL and Hendo were "terrible". They were both very good for just their second game. Better than the 3 guys with 200+ games

    Yes, sorry Dice. I was a bit indiscriminate in my comment. Apologies to XL and Hendo.

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    What's wrong with the podcast? I can only hear Andy.Ā 

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    Is the podcast working for anyone else?

    Before I could only hear Andy, but now it reverts to an older podcast.

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    Just now, D4Demon said:

    Is the podcast working for anyone else?

    Before I could only hear Andy, but now it reverts to an older podcast.

    Same here. It keeps defaulting onto an old Jason Taylor interview.Ā 

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    Just now, Demonland said:

    Should work now. When I put their channel on to the stream it stopped the stream. Re-started it. Recording will be unaffected.

    Thank you, itā€™s working now. We need the therapy tonight!

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    thoughts on the leadership, in the second half especially last qtr every north goal heads down instantly from the whole team, no talk aswell?-Ā  re petty and tmac holding the ball

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    When did we last kick into the Forward line to a leading Forward coming out of the Goal Square??

    Itā€™s a basic fundamental of the gameā€¦

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    On 24/03/2025 at 10:52, demoncat said:

    A raft of issues this week that Iā€™m sure will be spoken about at length, but one thing in particular Iā€™d like to hear the panels thoughts on is the move of Ed Langdon to a CBA midfielderĀ 

    To me itā€™s an absolute disasterclass in tactics to move one of the most reliable wingman in the comp to the midfield at almost 30 years of ageĀ 

    Ed was routinely out positioned and unable to effect contests, and any benefit his aerobic capacity might bring is lost when he constantly sat back and allowed Northā€™s mids to get three or four steps on him (although he wasnā€™t alone in that regard)

    The slap in the face is that we have Trent Rivers (a player who played in there for half of last year and trained there all summer) and Harvey Langford (a genuine mid already racking them up at Casey) ready and able to step into that role without using bandaid solutions like bringing in LangdonĀ 

    I know Goody has strengths as a coach, but his personnel and positioning decisions are baffling at times, and it doesnā€™t inspire a lot of confidence going forwardĀ 

    The same can be said about the move of Petty to the fwd line last year.

    From memory, he played an absolute pearler against the tigers and booted a bag of sausage rolls but sadly, that's pretty much where the experiment ended.

    I mean he showed the occasional glimpses of good work but he's just not a fwd .

    For reasons beyond my limited comprehension, defenders don't convert well to being fwds like fwds can become defenders

    Tmac is one of the exceptions to this rule as he became one of our best fwds after years of defending and pretty much set up a lot of our wins in 2021 to put us in flag contention. Maybe he was originally a fwd in his salad years.

    I'm not sure he could play fwd again given the injuries he's had and plus he's doing a bang up job in his old role. Although I do wonder why we haven't tried him again. Maybe we are worried he will get injured.

    But back to Langdon....you are spot on in calling this change out. It didn't work. And while one could rightly argue that more time is needed than just one game, we don't really have that luxury. And yea it's early days but I foresee hard times and trouble ahead. I know Jbr and Fritta are struggling but if one of those were injured, then oh boy. But back to Langdon.

    We need Langdon in the position he has absolutely dominated in. And done so many a time.

    I'll hold off on giving Goody a serve because I feel he's doing the best he can with limited options.

    He's also been quite flexible and open minded with some of these decisions. I used to think he was quite stuck in his ways. Not anymore at least. But back to Langdon...

    When he's in top gear, he is a weapon and then some. Let's hope we see him reaching those cogs this year. And in his true position.

    In fact if we look at our 2021 list and see who is playing in their respective "lower gears", there are quite a few.

    Fritta

    JvrĀ 

    Lever

    Spargo

    Bowey

    And on Sunday we saw The Three horseman of Max, Tracca and Oliver struggle at times. Yes Oliver had a very high possession count, he used the pill poorly more than once. In fact they all did.Ā  Last year after that infamous Freo game last year they did so as well. Well Tracca was injured. But that'sĀ  part of it. With that tremendous talented trio below par or injured or out, it's very noticable.

    We had May and Kozzie out.

    Also since 21 Anb and Jackson and BBB have goneĀ 

    That's a lot of stardom out of form, missing or injured for sure.Ā 

    In footy dollars it's a mountain of moola.

    If you had all the blokes mentioned above playing their best , then you could fill the other spots with unknowns and still come out on top. So there are clearly a lot of problems. But back to Langdon. He's not alone.

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    I'm with @binmanĀ in that I can see what we are trying to do, the issue is we can't execute yet and as he has banged on about it is the lack of foot skills from our best players.

    I do think Goody and the coaches need to have a good look at the roles they are giving certain players and who has the smarts and skills to execute it.

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    There you go #demoncat

    At around about 0ne hour and 15 minutes.... I think it was George on the outer that sums up your concern about Ed Langdon's change quite succinctly. Not in these words but probably similar....

    Ed Langdon is not a ball magnet...he's more of a ball mover.

    Not to say he doesn't get his fair share of disposals but rather his strength lies in his speed and skill rather than his strength.( If that makes sense.)

    I think in the p.c. they allude to the fact that Ed is not your typical strong mf who gets in under packs like Viney and wins the ball in tight comps.

    For me, the mids are there to get the ball to Langdon type players who use their speed and silky skills to move the ball down the ground.

    So yea not a great move.

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