PREGAME: Rd 01 vs GWS

[WERRIDEE 5,634]

7 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

I am a Jeffo fan, but Johnson is well ahead of him after the Freo game. I am OK with either of them for round 1.

I am so hungry for Spargo to find fitness and form. At his peak he was so important, his delivery and decision making into the F50 was a standout when so many other of our players seem to fail at this too often. Although  Chandler's gut running is a really important quality, and we have other smaller players like Laurie, only Kozzie and Spargo have that small forward touch of class and smarts around and through half forward.

Bowey at his best is a great part of our defense, but his delivery has been iffy for the better part of 18 months now. 

Not convinced Langford or Lindsay are ready for round 1. 

Howes is better than he has shown in preseason. 

Is Fritsch ready for round 1?

2 very important players for season 2025 - Salem and JVR.

Sparrow very solid.

Not sold on Sharp.

I wish Tholstrup was fit and ready.

The players I'm sold on: Lever, May, Salem, Langdon, Petracca, Fritsch, Gawn, Oliver, Viney.

The rest all have question marks on them.

[Maldonboy38 6,425]

3 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

The players I'm sold on: Lever, May, Salem, Langdon, Petracca, Fritsch, Gawn, Oliver, Viney.

The rest all have question marks on them.

I would add JVR, and Fritsch looks all at sea at the moment. Otherwise I agree.

[WERRIDEE 5,634]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Why not ??? as Blackadder said, " Baldrick your hairbrained scheme with a twist or two might just work"!!

Jefferson won't debut. 1 club debut and 3 AFL debuts seems about right although they might not go with Woewodin instead of Johnson if van Rooyen is injury free.

[Deestar9 1,853]

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

JVR just got injured playing forward and you’ve decided ruck is more dangerous with no stats?

Disco would’ve rucked if not for Aj and we’d have been very small up forward, that’s a risk, but not a risk compared with known outcome of being too slow if we go in too tall.

Max will never stop going back with the flight. It’s up to the other players to protect him by blocking their forwards from getting a clean run and jump. 

He had a  back spasm so not through a game incident. Could get that playing anywhere & it’s happened before . Made a massive difference in how we had to restructure & we effectively played with 1 player short in very trying conditions..

[Supreme_Demon 4,101]

It's a shame Jake Melksham isn't ready yet.

He would be handy in the forward line.

 

[dazzledavey36 56,120]

There was a lot of positives to take out of the Freo game but still some questions marks on a few concerns.

Few points I want to highlight leading into round one.

It was good to see the Gawn, Oliver and Petracca combination back in full swing. Honestly though, how do we look after Gawn better? The guy is going to get smashed each weak and there is only so many hits his body can absorb. How do we utilise Campbell in some capacity to ease that burden? Feel like we are way too heavily reliant on Gawn still.

Other then May and Lever, there is a significant drop in our back six talent. Bowey is an ordinary player, other then taking the kick outs with dinky 20m kicks i have no idea what he adds to our team. He is also a ball butcher with his rush hack kicks and i feel his development has stalled. Unlike others i actually like Howes and think he can become a good player.

Windsor is still young and inexperienced but I think with each game we'll start to see some drive from him and McVee which will hopefully be the starting point of us being able to slingshot we'll off half back.

I think Langford doesn't play round 1. To be honest he looks completely lost just wasting away at half forward. He's a kid that's physically ready to go so not sure why we didn't through him in the midfield after the first quarter. Attended a few CBA's in the first quarter but didn't get a run in the midfield for the rest of the game. Odd.

I'd rather he get a few games at Casey playing solely as a full time midfield so that he's getting the quality development in a position that suits his strengths, then bring him in when the time is ready.

I have Xavier Lindsay certainly firming for round 1 though.

Forward line is still a massive concern for me. There is now a heavy reliance on JVR who is yet to turn 22 and yet we saw yesterday how completely unbalance how forward line is without him.

Turner is simply not a forward. Literally did not sight him until the last quarter where he kicked s junkyard goal and that was similar to the week before against North. AJ did more yesterday then Turner has for two weeks.

Small forward stocks are very low and limited. If only we had another Pickett huh.. I'd rather not have Chandler in our round 1 team to be honest. I'd much rather Kynan Brown and or Jack Henderson to be honest. You can give me all the stats in the world that says he's top 3 for repeated sprints and all that jazz, but he's just an ordinary player in general. 

It's no surprise why we had interest in both Kako and Joe Berry in last year's draft. Small forward are becoming a premium in today's game.

Just on Jack Billings, around the ground he was actually fine in my opinion and his field kicking is actually better then some of our top tier mids. It's his kicking for goal that's just bad.. and yes, he plays round 1 for me. Just don't let him inside our forward 50.

Not sold on Sharp as a half forward but liked him when he moved to the wing role.

Get Petty, McVee, Tholstrup, Pickett and Melksham back into our team come the real stuff and I think this changes the whole dynamic of our team.

Hanging for GWS now.

[WERRIDEE 5,634]

Langford plays one bad game and you want him dropped? He starred against Norf.

[dazzledavey36 56,120]

11 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

Langford plays one bad game and you want him dropped? He starred against Norf.

He didn't play a bad game at all.. but due to Viney, Petracca and Langdon playing more midfield time yesterday this limited Langfords midfield minutes and instead had to waste away up forward where he was barely noticeable. 

That's the reason why he played well against North because he was given more midfield exposure because there was no Petracca, Viney and Langdon playing.

It's not the worse thing in the world that a first year player starts off in the VFL. He'll be able to play more his natural game as a starting midfielder and then when the time is right, then hopefully the club see him best fit to actually slot into our midfield set up at AFL level.

[DeeSpencer 26,619]

56 minutes ago, Deestar9 said:

He had a  back spasm so not through a game incident. Could get that playing anywhere & it’s happened before . Made a massive difference in how we had to restructure & we effectively played with 1 player short in very trying conditions..

He had a back spasm because he got a hip or knee to the back trying to hold off his defender on a lead after Sparrow kicked a moon ball to no one on the first inside 50. 

He was just about immediately subbed off for AJ so we weren't one short and didn't have to restructure. 

Freo subbed on a defender at half time then 2 impact subs (Voss and Erasmus) for the last. We subbed on Kossie and Taj for the last.

[At the break of Gawn 4,484]

28 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There was a lot of positives to take out of the Freo game but still some questions marks on a few concerns.

Few points I want to highlight leading into round one.

It was good to see the Gawn, Oliver and Petracca combination back in full swing. Honestly though, how do we look after Gawn better? The guy is going to get smashed each weak and there is only so many hits his body can absorb. How do we utilise Campbell in some capacity to ease that burden? Feel like we are way too heavily reliant on Gawn still.

Other then May and Lever, there is a significant drop in our back six talent. Bowey is an ordinary player, other then taking the kick outs with dinky 20m kicks i have no idea what he adds to our team. He is also a ball butcher with his rush hack kicks and i feel his development has stalled. Unlike others i actually like Howes and think he can become a good player.

Windsor is still young and inexperienced but I think with each game we'll start to see some drive from him and McVee which will hopefully be the starting point of us being able to slingshot we'll off half back.

I think Langford doesn't play round 1. To be honest he looks completely lost just wasting away at half forward. He's a kid that's physically ready to go so not sure why we didn't through him in the midfield after the first quarter. Attended a few CBA's in the first quarter but didn't get a run in the midfield for the rest of the game. Odd.

I'd rather he get a few games at Casey playing solely as a full time midfield so that he's getting the quality development in a position that suits his strengths, then bring him in when the time is ready.

I have Xavier Lindsay certainly firming for round 1 though.

Forward line is still a massive concern for me. There is now a heavy reliance on JVR who is yet to turn 22 and yet we saw yesterday how completely unbalance how forward line is without him.

Turner is simply not a forward. Literally did not sight him until the last quarter where he kicked s junkyard goal and that was similar to the week before against North. AJ did more yesterday then Turner has for two weeks.

Small forward stocks are very low and limited. If only we had another Pickett huh.. I'd rather not have Chandler in our round 1 team to be honest. I'd much rather Kynan Brown and or Jack Henderson to be honest. You can give me all the stats in the world that says he's top 3 for repeated sprints and all that jazz, but he's just an ordinary player in general. 

It's no surprise why we had interest in both Kako and Joe Berry in last year's draft. Small forward are becoming a premium in today's game.

Just on Jack Billings, around the ground he was actually fine in my opinion and his field kicking is actually better then some of our top tier mids. It's his kicking for goal that's just bad.. and yes, he plays round 1 for me. Just don't let him inside our forward 50.

Not sold on Sharp as a half forward but liked him when he moved to the wing role.

Get Petty, McVee, Tholstrup, Pickett and Melksham back into our team come the real stuff and I think this changes the whole dynamic of our team.

Hanging for GWS now.

We're on the same page regarding the forward line. I just find it hard to believe we are going to worry really good defensive sides without some more talent with our tall forwards. 

Turner has some potential in that he's a great competitor and usually a straight kick for goal, but his issue is his height and athleticism. 

I honestly think we need to throw Petracca forward more, he'll draw a really good defender which may make it easier for Fritsch or Turner.

[rpfc 28,991]

10 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He didn't play a bad game at all.. but due to Viney, Petracca and Langdon playing more midfield time yesterday this limited Langfords midfield minutes and instead had to waste away up forward where he was barely noticeable. 

That's the reason why he played well against North because he was given more midfield exposure because there was no Petracca, Viney and Langdon playing.

It's not the worse thing in the world that a first year player starts off in the VFL. He'll be able to play more his natural game as a starting midfielder and then when the time is right, then hopefully the club see him best fit to actually slot into our midfield set up at AFL level.

For me, if you are not a star - what’s your role? And if Langford can play a role in that fwd line that gets him exposure at AFL level - I think that will benefit him more. 
Surely we have to play Petracca forward more in the next 3 weeks? Rivers will also need to sure up on the defensive side of the ball sometimes, Oliver should have always spent time at either end learning to get easy (back) and hard but valuable (fwd) footy.

I think there is scope for Langford to play meaningful minutes with this midfield.

[WERRIDEE 5,634]

26 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There was a lot of positives to take out of the Freo game but still some questions marks on a few concerns.

Few points I want to highlight leading into round one.

It was good to see the Gawn, Oliver and Petracca combination back in full swing. Honestly though, how do we look after Gawn better? The guy is going to get smashed each weak and there is only so many hits his body can absorb. How do we utilise Campbell in some capacity to ease that burden? Feel like we are way too heavily reliant on Gawn still.

Other then May and Lever, there is a significant drop in our back six talent. Bowey is an ordinary player, other then taking the kick outs with dinky 20m kicks i have no idea what he adds to our team. He is also a ball butcher with his rush hack kicks and i feel his development has stalled. Unlike others i actually like Howes and think he can become a good player.

Windsor is still young and inexperienced but I think with each game we'll start to see some drive from him and McVee which will hopefully be the starting point of us being able to slingshot we'll off half back.

I think Langford doesn't play round 1. To be honest he looks completely lost just wasting away at half forward. He's a kid that's physically ready to go so not sure why we didn't through him in the midfield after the first quarter. Attended a few CBA's in the first quarter but didn't get a run in the midfield for the rest of the game. Odd.

I'd rather he get a few games at Casey playing solely as a full time midfield so that he's getting the quality development in a position that suits his strengths, then bring him in when the time is ready.

I have Xavier Lindsay certainly firming for round 1 though.

Forward line is still a massive concern for me. There is now a heavy reliance on JVR who is yet to turn 22 and yet we saw yesterday how completely unbalance how forward line is without him.

Turner is simply not a forward. Literally did not sight him until the last quarter where he kicked s junkyard goal and that was similar to the week before against North. AJ did more yesterday then Turner has for two weeks.

Small forward stocks are very low and limited. If only we had another Pickett huh.. I'd rather not have Chandler in our round 1 team to be honest. I'd much rather Kynan Brown and or Jack Henderson to be honest. You can give me all the stats in the world that says he's top 3 for repeated sprints and all that jazz, but he's just an ordinary player in general. 

It's no surprise why we had interest in both Kako and Joe Berry in last year's draft. Small forward are becoming a premium in today's game.

Just on Jack Billings, around the ground he was actually fine in my opinion and his field kicking is actually better then some of our top tier mids. It's his kicking for goal that's just bad.. and yes, he plays round 1 for me. Just don't let him inside our forward 50.

Not sold on Sharp as a half forward but liked him when he moved to the wing role.

Get Petty, McVee, Tholstrup, Pickett and Melksham back into our team come the real stuff and I think this changes the whole dynamic of our team.

Hanging for GWS now.

If Campbell plays I wouldn't mind if that means dropping Chandler. Gawn needs help.

Our backline is a major problem Bowey has gone backwards and Howes has been poor. Too bad Hore got injured he'd replace Howes. Windsor is not a backman why change something that isn't broke. Play him on the wing where he belongs same with Langdon give Langford more of a go in the middle. Play Rivers more back now that Trac is back.

Our forward line sucks it's van Rooyen or bust. I'm afraid that Turner will just be like Petty up forward just a flash in the pan. Chandler's last half of the year and pre season have been terrible. Too bad Spargo and Melksham are injured not to mention Pickett's stupid suspension.

Billings will play I'm not a fan of him but his pre season has been good.

Sharp was fantastic against Norf not so against Freo I'd give him another go.

If I was Goodwin my side would be:

B: Lever, May, Turner

HB: Salem, Petty, Rivers

C: Windsor, Petracca, Langdon

HF: Sparrow, Johnson, Henderson

F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Jefferson

FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney

IC: Lindsay, Langford, Campbell, Sharp

SUB: Billings

[dazzledavey36 56,120]

4 minutes ago, rpfc said:

For me, if you are not a star - what’s your role? And if Langford can play a role in that fwd line that gets him exposure at AFL level - I think that will benefit him more. 
Surely we have to play Petracca forward more in the next 3 weeks? Rivers will also need to sure up on the defensive side of the ball sometimes, Oliver should have always spent time at either end learning to get easy (back) and hard but valuable (fwd) footy.

I think there is scope for Langford to play meaningful minutes with this midfield.

Personally I think he's physically ready and more then capable to step straight into our midfield role right as we speak.

But you're absolutely right. If your name isn't Viney, Petracca or Oliver then forget about it. It's going to be my number one frustration this year if we continue to constantly roll these three out as our starting midfield every single weekend. 

As good as they are, we simply cannot go back to the same format where clubs worked us out with our stoppage set up simply because we became so bloody predictable with the same set up each and every week.

[DeeSpencer 26,619]

12 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He didn't play a bad game at all.. but due to Viney, Petracca and Langdon playing more midfield time yesterday this limited Langfords midfield minutes and instead had to waste away up forward where he was barely noticeable. 

That's the reason why he played well against North because he was given more midfield exposure because there was no Petracca, Viney and Langdon playing.

It's not the worse thing in the world that a first year player starts off in the VFL. He'll be able to play more his natural game as a starting midfielder and then when the time is right, then hopefully the club see him best fit to actually slot into our midfield set up at AFL level.

Yeah I'm starting to lean towards leaving him out too. It's hard to justify centre bounce time when they've got the 3 big guns, are rightfully trying Langdon to get some much needed run and speed and are right to keep going with Rivers on ball. I'd hope he gets time on ball post centre bounce, that would be wise that he's the guy to swap with Tracc after the clearance. But whether that's enough midfield time is worth asking.

If you believe in 3 tall forwards and Fritsch it's very hard to justify another bigger body who doesn't provide any tackle pressure or speed up forward.

And even if like me you think 2 talls is fine he still has to make an impact across half forward and it's such a tricky position. Made even harder if there's no flow to our ball movement. Even harder again when it's 35 in Mandurah and you get subbed out at 3/4 time.

I think his greatest strength this year is his around the ground movement, not ball winning or overhead marking (both are skills but they're much easier to use when you're 21 not 18). He has natural instincts in how to accumulate the footy. But to play as an attacking half forward at 18 you need to be freakish at that. I'd be happy to try him rotating as the 3rd winger for those same reasons, it's just an easier position to do that in, but they haven't done that.

Of course the big question is who comes in and just purely on attributes Jack Henderson is the standout if we assume he bought his Werribee form to Casey, but it seems we'll seemingly never know if he did!

 

[DeeSpencer 26,619]

29 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

HF: Sparrow, Johnson, Henderson

F: Fritsch, van Rooyen, Jefferson

FOLL: Gawn, Oliver, Viney

IC: Lindsay, Langford, Campbell, Sharp

SUB: Billings

3 tall forwards and a second ruck to roll out for 15% of game time. Try again

[WERRIDEE 5,634]

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

3 tall forwards and a second ruck to roll out for 15% of game time. Try again

What's wrong with having 3 talls and a second ruck? Carlton have McKay, Curnow and Kemp as 3 talls and have De Koning and Pittonet as 2 ruckman it can work.

[Pennant St Dee 13,426]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

There was a lot of positives to take out of the Freo game but still some questions marks on a few concerns.

Few points I want to highlight leading into round one.

It was good to see the Gawn, Oliver and Petracca combination back in full swing. Honestly though, how do we look after Gawn better? The guy is going to get smashed each weak and there is only so many hits his body can absorb. How do we utilise Campbell in some capacity to ease that burden? Feel like we are way too heavily reliant on Gawn still.

Other then May and Lever, there is a significant drop in our back six talent. Bowey is an ordinary player, other then taking the kick outs with dinky 20m kicks i have no idea what he adds to our team. He is also a ball butcher with his rush hack kicks and i feel his development has stalled. Unlike others i actually like Howes and think he can become a good player.

Windsor is still young and inexperienced but I think with each game we'll start to see some drive from him and McVee which will hopefully be the starting point of us being able to slingshot we'll off half back.

I think Langford doesn't play round 1. To be honest he looks completely lost just wasting away at half forward. He's a kid that's physically ready to go so not sure why we didn't through him in the midfield after the first quarter. Attended a few CBA's in the first quarter but didn't get a run in the midfield for the rest of the game. Odd.

I'd rather he get a few games at Casey playing solely as a full time midfield so that he's getting the quality development in a position that suits his strengths, then bring him in when the time is ready.

I have Xavier Lindsay certainly firming for round 1 though.

Forward line is still a massive concern for me. There is now a heavy reliance on JVR who is yet to turn 22 and yet we saw yesterday how completely unbalance how forward line is without him.

Turner is simply not a forward. Literally did not sight him until the last quarter where he kicked s junkyard goal and that was similar to the week before against North. AJ did more yesterday then Turner has for two weeks.

Small forward stocks are very low and limited. If only we had another Pickett huh.. I'd rather not have Chandler in our round 1 team to be honest. I'd much rather Kynan Brown and or Jack Henderson to be honest. You can give me all the stats in the world that says he's top 3 for repeated sprints and all that jazz, but he's just an ordinary player in general. 

It's no surprise why we had interest in both Kako and Joe Berry in last year's draft. Small forward are becoming a premium in today's game.

Just on Jack Billings, around the ground he was actually fine in my opinion and his field kicking is actually better then some of our top tier mids. It's his kicking for goal that's just bad.. and yes, he plays round 1 for me. Just don't let him inside our forward 50.

Not sold on Sharp as a half forward but liked him when he moved to the wing role.

Get Petty, McVee, Tholstrup, Pickett and Melksham back into our team come the real stuff and I think this changes the whole dynamic of our team.

Hanging for GWS now.

Agree with a lot of this Dazzle, one query whilst Kossie is out do we play Petracca 65/70% forward and bring Petty back in down back for Adams

B. Lever       May     Howes

F. Windsor   Petty     Salem

C. Billings     Viney    Lindsay

HF. Sparrow  JVR      Sharp

F.  Fritsch       AJ       Trac

R. Gawn, Oliver, Rivers

I/C. Bowey, Langdon, Turner, Woewodin

Bowey-defensive rotation 

Langdon mid rotation

Turner tall rotation throwing AJ in the ruck and resting Gawn

Woewodin wing rotation 

Sub: Langford/Henderson

Edited 8 hours ago by Pennant St Dee

[DeeSpencer 26,619]

46 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

We're on the same page regarding the forward line. I just find it hard to believe we are going to worry really good defensive sides without some more talent with our tall forwards. 

Turner has some potential in that he's a great competitor and usually a straight kick for goal, but his issue is his height and athleticism. 

I honestly think we need to throw Petracca forward more, he'll draw a really good defender which may make it easier for Fritsch or Turner.

Disco really doesn't lack much height and he's moving beautifully at training.

The instructions for our forwards especially our deep forwards is to get deep, they're just spreading them out with width as well now. The challenge for our mids and half forwards is to use that extra option via half forward and/or just delay their kicks until the forward has established depth and then come back up at the ball.

Tracc will definitely play a good chunk forward but thinking about it now if he really is putting up big time fitness numbers he'll want to play midfield. He's always wanted to be a midfielder and a Darcy Moore knee to the ribs will only further cement that I believe. 

So far it's been mostly Sparrow, Langford and Sharp across half forward and mixed results if they've been used.

 

[DeeSpencer 26,619]

7 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

What's wrong with having 3 talls and a second ruck? Carlton have McKay, Curnow and Kemp as 3 talls and have De Koning and Pittonet as 2 ruckman it can work.

Kemp played full back most of the year, went forward when they had injuries.

I'm pretty sure their win/loss record with 2 rucks was awful and even then TDK has some genuine forward juice. Tom Campbell in a forward line in 2025, come on now, be serious.

And what on earth is Jeffo doing in a side with 2 rucks and 2 key forwards and Fritsch? May as well play him on the wing.

Right now there's only 1 decision for match committee and it's whether they throw out their summer plans of just 2 talls and go with 3 for some extra crash and bash. Tom Campbell won't be remotely in the selection frame.

[WERRIDEE 5,634]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Kemp played full back most of the year, went forward when they had injuries.

I'm pretty sure their win/loss record with 2 rucks was awful and even then TDK has some genuine forward juice. Tom Campbell in a forward line in 2025, come on now, be serious.

And what on earth is Jeffo doing in a side with 2 rucks and 2 key forwards and Fritsch? May as well play him on the wing.

Right now there's only 1 decision for match committee and it's whether they throw out their summer plans of just 2 talls and go with 3 for some extra crash and bash. Tom Campbell won't be remotely in the selection frame.

They will have a dangerous forward line. With Kemp, Curnow and McKay. So are we going to continue to bash and crash Gawn are we? Something is eventually going to give. Campbell will be considered he was good against Norf and I thought Gawn was just average against Freo. Jackson starred.

Fritsch can play small. He, Sparrow and Henderson or whoever it is will have to give the defensive pressure and if they don't find players that will. Jefferson, van Rooyen and Johnson will be more dangerous targets than the targets we have now.

[Dee-tonator 266]

8 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I've no idea what's happened to this player since the infamous Alice Springs game but he's nowhere near an A grader at the moment. A starting sub role in round 1 may light a fire under him to kick start his season.

Fritsch is a reliable goal-kicker when he can find space but he has about as much appetite for the contest as a mouse would against an elephant.

[KozzyCan 868]

18 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Windsor used the ball and his pace quite well yesterday, but we need more than 10 possessions if that's going to be his permanent position.

The Langdon one doesn't bother me too much. He'd only be getting minimal CBA's, you'd think, and will likely spend his other on field minutes on the wing. Anything to keep Trac and Oliver fresh and firing for the last quarter.

The Windsor move is strange. We are a forward half team, why are we playing someone who's biggest asset is his acceleration to play so far behind the ball? Put him closer to the contest and let him break defensive lines.

[fr_ap 2,564]

Some very astute commentary in here from DeeSpencer, Dazzle and KozzyCan. 

The voices of reason bubbling to the top now there is some genuine exposed form against good opposition.

We have an unbalanced list and continue to have too many of the same types.

[Demonland 74,116]

 

[dazzledavey36 56,120]

7 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Agree with a lot of this Dazzle, one query whilst Kossie is out do we play Petracca 65/70% forward and bring Petty back in down back for Adams

B. Lever       May     Howes

F. Windsor   Petty     Salem

C. Billings     Viney    Lindsay

HF. Sparrow  JVR      Sharp

F.  Fritsch       AJ       Trac

R. Gawn, Oliver, Rivers

I/C. Bowey, Langdon, Turner, Woewodin

Bowey-defensive rotation 

Langdon mid rotation

Turner tall rotation throwing AJ in the ruck and resting Gawn

Woewodin wing rotation 

Sub: Langford/Henderson

Glad you mentioned Woey. I thought he was good when he came on and even the previous week against North Melbourne I thought he played pretty well.

On form, he's ahead of Langford for instance especially if it came down to the final spot.