3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

2 first and a 2nd round is pretty good. You wouldn't get anymore than that.

I would do that deal in a heartbeat personally.

We don’t have one first round pick let alone 2. Only way it happens if trac leaves

12 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

We don’t have one first round pick let alone 2. Only way it happens if trac leaves

It's been mentioned multiple times on Demonland that starting with this off season, clubs will be able to trade two future firsts. So 2026 and 2027 could be traded.

8 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

It's been mentioned multiple times on Demonland that starting with this off season, clubs will be able to trade two future firsts. So 2026 and 2027 could be traded.

And it will constantly evolve to suit the "favoured" clubs 😉

10 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Change the title please to Operation Go get Jacko back!

They are powerless if he requests a trade and we give them a 1st rounder and take his contract.

10 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Is that Jesse Hogan trying to get LJ over the line? That'd be nice.

Fritta Petty Chandler

Kozzy Hogan LJ

@george_on_the_outer gets his three tall forwards and we have some genuine goal scorers inside 50.

We can dream.

6 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Not really sure where he fits into the Freo side though with Treacy and Amiss?

I guess they may come sniffing for him.

I still think if Jackson is vehemently wanting to leave then picks can get it done.... everyone else trades picks!

Do we have any picks to trade???

36 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Snapping all over the place. 😂

🫰or🫛?

3 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Snapping all over the place. 😂

The app is lagging like crazy

1 hour ago, binman said:

BUT, if there is any sort of chance of landing Jackson i hope they do what it takes to get him - and whatever it takes might include putting JVR on the table.

It really is impossible to replace Gawn - but getting Jackson in would be huge in terms of creating an opportunity for a succession plan

Jackson is still young (24 in September) - barring serious injury he'll play another eight to ten seasons.

I could see Max playing three more seasons after this year.

That takes Jackson to 27 years old, hitting his peak, with still another six or seven seasons left in his career as the number one ruck. Perfect

I reckon Maxy struggled to find synergy with Grundy in large part because he wants to be the man. Super competitive, he'd be happy to take every ruck contest.

But it seemed to work better Jackson. And if they can make it work it might help to extend Maxy's career.

Keeping Koz and getting Jackson in would be a game changer.

All that said, how good would it be to get Jackson AND keep JVR.

What is Rivers trade value? Again I would prefer not to have to use JVR or Rivers and definitely not McVee but would absolutely love to get LJ back

26 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

It's been mentioned multiple times on Demonland that starting with this off season, clubs will be able to trade two future firsts. So 2026 and 2027 could be traded.

As big a blow as it would be lose Jackson, Freo are well placed to cover the loss.

Darcy is a terrific ruck (though his injuries are becoming a worry) and up forward they have Amiss and Traecy.

And trading Jackson would really help with their salary cap, will surely must be an issue given the contracts Bolton, Serong, Brayshaw, Young are on and Amiss and Traecy will demand.

Two future firsts and a decent WA player like McVee or JVR might get them somewhere close.

If he wants out they will have to weigh up the risks of forcing him to stay - they'd want to be confident he'd perform to a high level.

1 minute ago, ANG13 said:

What is Rivers trade value? Again I would prefer not to have to use JVR or Rivers and definitely not McVee but would absolutely love to get LJ back

Yep Riv would be in the mix.

35 minutes ago, binman said:

The app is lagging like crazy

Have a chat to the boss. I don't use the app, just access via Google Chrome on my phone.

I would prefer to jettison JVR if it is necessary to part with someone to get Jackson. McVee and Rivers (in order) are much more important to us and far better players in their positions.

Problem is Freo doesn’t need a lead up Tall Forward with Tracey and Amiss.

I am not against JVR as a concept - I am just not sold on his instincts as a forward and his ability to utilise space with his leading patterns. He is still a project in my view. He is lucky that he is at the Dees with our plethora of NQR talls up forward.

Also, if we have around $4m+ of the cap in CO13, CP5, and KP36, then something might have to give to get Jackson (or anyone).

Edited June 12Jun 12 by rpfc

1 hour ago, Adam The God said:

It's been mentioned multiple times on Demonland that starting with this off season, clubs will be able to trade two future firsts. So 2026 and 2027 could be traded.

Thank you... wish people would do their research before posting 😆

5 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Also, if we have around $4m+ of the cap in CO13, CP5, and KP36, then something might have to give to get Jackson (or anyone).

Yep, would think we would have to move someone on to free up some space for him.

12 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Have a chat to the boss. I don't use the app, just access via Google Chrome on my phone.

Me too. Maybe it's my brain

The site is lagging like crazy is what i should have said.

And there are some funky formatting and editing issues.

But, you're right I better speak to @Demonland

3 hours ago, Billy said:

What is the story behind LJ wanting so desperately to get out of Perth?

Family issues.

36 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Also, if we have around $4m+ of the cap in CO13, CP5, and KP36, then something might have to give to get Jackson (or anyone).

Trading Fritsch would free some cap space and could net us a first round pick… just saying

12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Trading Fritsch would free some cap space and could net us a first round pick… just saying

Very true, but that because tougher now too that he seems to have turned a corner...

7 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Very true, but that because tougher now too that he seems to have turned a corner...

Well not really because the better he plays the more he will be worth at the trade table.

Of course one has to ask themselves, how can a club with net zero forwards, trade away their only consistent goal kicker?

*Kosi excluded as he will play more midfield as time goes on

I'm mates with Ryan Daniels and he believes Jackson won't be leaving Freo. He thinks they will be trading Darcy....

JVR is overrated by many and I think some of his early career games gave some false hope to some on here.

He is an undersized key position utility who played his footy as that, a utility before drafted. And his under 18's year was mostly played as a key defender. An important couple of facts that people miss.

He is most certainly not a natural forward. His positioning, leading patterns and overhead marking are simply not at the level that some would like to believe.

So I think it's more about lowering expectations with him.

As for the hypothetical of a Jackson trade, you'd simply have to entertain it. Jackson has far more upside given his talents and attributes. And I agree with others on Riv and Judd being too important and embedded in our group. Having said that, you'd hope losing JVR for Jackson wouldn't cause unrest in the group and they're obviously factors that will all be weighed up at the end of the year.

The positive is that whenever a player wants to leave due to personal reasons, the club that player leaves from ultimately accepts unders. And with the addition of being able to trade up to two years in advance, we may not have to give up a young player like JVR.

I do think someone will have to go though in order to clear some money and get in some more picks for getting creative. An Oliver and Fritsch would do it for me. (Fritsch out of contract at the end of this year too I believe which is interesting).

Edited June 12Jun 12 by Howard_Grimes

1 hour ago, binman said:

As big a blow as it would be lose Jackson, Freo are well placed to cover the loss.

Darcy is a terrific ruck (though his injuries are becoming a worry) and up forward they have Amiss and Traecy.

And trading Jackson would really help with their salary cap, will surely must be an issue given the contracts Bolton, Serong, Brayshaw, Young are on and Amiss and Traecy will demand.

Two future firsts and a decent WA player like McVee or JVR might get them somewhere close.

If he wants out they will have to weigh up the risks of forcing him to stay - they'd want to be confident he'd perform to a high level.

Why so keen on Jackson? He's good, but I'd prefer McVee, and I believe JVR is going to be epically good at some point.

Who cares about Jackson. Don't throw out the team mix we have now. Jackson left us. We shouldn't beg steal and borrow to get him.

8 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I'm mates with Ryan Daniels and he believes Jackson won't be leaving Freo. He thinks they will be trading Darcy....

That would be the logical thing to do…

So of course Freo won’t do it 🤣

In all seriousness Dogga thrives in the #1 ruck role and I can’t believe it’s taken Freo this long to realise it

Edited June 12Jun 12 by demoncat

16 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I'm mates with Ryan Daniels and he believes Jackson won't be leaving Freo. He thinks they will be trading Darcy....

it will be interesting to see what they get for him given his propensity for injury, poor form, and presumably significant salary

4 hours ago, binman said:

I'm a huge jvr fan - I'm absolutely convinced he'll be a gun.

That's hardly a big call - even with his middling form this season, his career numbers stack up well against his current peers (eg Amiss, Treacy, JUH, Darcy, McDonald, Philthorp) and the gun key forwards in the 2000s (eg Netiz, Lyon, Cunrnow, Kennedy, Darling, McKay, Naughton, not a mile from Brown) at the same age.

I really rate Treacy, and he is in ripping form this season.JVR's career numbers are comparable to Treacy, who is a season ahead (and almost a year older) than Roo:

So why is he so poor this year? Even at Casey his only good games were against a very poor Preston and an almost as bad Sydney. I know we will never agree on JVR but this year his form does not justify a place in the senior side. How long do we have to wait in 2025.

1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I'm mates with Ryan Daniels and he believes Jackson won't be leaving Freo. He thinks they will be trading Darcy....

Darcy to Collingwood