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PRESEASON TRAINING: Friday 14th February 2025


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8 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

A lot of posters here have been kidding themselves about McAdam. The fact that he tried hard & is a lovely bloke are beside the point.

There is a reason he has never completed a full season at AFL level.

Certainly talented but struggled with fitness & very injury prone.  

He was always a high risk pick & now it's looking like a bust.

Frank, he hasn't achieved his potential with us yet and now he might never play again. 

Lots of our players have come good after disappointing starts and some return to their best after bad spells. I thought he was about to come good this year. 

None of us had any foreknowledge of Shane's Achilles rupturing on the verge of what looked like a promising season.   Now all that time and effort from him and all his support and coaching staff might have been for nought.  

I think it's fair enough that you can feel disappointed in his output to date, but it's not his fault he's had a sudden catastrophic injury. 

So even though he hasn't turned out to be another fairytale recruit like a Fritta or a Harmesey,  I don't think it's fair to disparage him, especially not in the immediate aftermath.  

He's a Demon.  Now he's a Demon with a long term injury, but he's still a Demon and deserves a bit more compassion and human decency, like you'd hope to receive if your career was cut short in an instant.  

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    2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    It was a very poor decision by the MFC to give up Pick 28 for McAdam. 
    if we had used Pick 70 i wouldn’t have minded one bit, he has loads of talent, but he was always injured at The Croms  

    Trading Senior Players has let us down very badly in the last 2-3 years 

    Yep very poor indeed!

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    4 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Am I obnoxious because I pointed out that a lot of posters are well meaning but clueless ?

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    2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    It was a very poor decision by the MFC to give up Pick 28 for McAdam. 
    if we had used Pick 70 i wouldn’t have minded one bit, he has loads of talent, but he was always injured at The Croms  

    Trading Senior Players has let us down very badly in the last 2-3 years 

    Just ridiculous and apart from anything else, nothing but hindsight bias. 
     

    A few here are going on about how he was always injured at the Crows, but even without playing full seasons he was in their top 3 for goals in 21 and 22. It was absolutely worth taking a punt on a damaging forward and backing in the fitness staff to get him right. 

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    2 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    This discussion has been done to death though SWYL. I think the majority of us agree that it was a strange one for the club to give up that pick, but the discussion recently was around people supporting him and hoping for the best, only for him to get another devastating injury. This wasn’t an injury related to his history either and is one that just pops up randomly. 

    Of course it was an injury related to his history, he has always been injury prone, didn’t suprise me at all when it happened. I feel sorry for him, it’s not his fault, but he was never worth Pick 28…

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    3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Of course it was an injury related to his history, he has always been injury prone, didn’t suprise me at all when it happened. I feel sorry for him, it’s not his fault, but he was never worth Pick 28…

    So a ruptured Achilles tendon was an injury he had in the past was it? 

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    8 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    Just ridiculous and apart from anything else, nothing but hindsight bias. 
     

    A few here are going on about how he was always injured at the Crows, but even without playing full seasons he was in their top 3 for goals in 21 and 22. It was absolutely worth taking a punt on a damaging forward and backing in the fitness staff to get him right. 

    Hindsight Bias, are you serious??

    If you buy a 2nd hand car, do you study its history, finding out as much as you can? Or are you a fingers crossed “hope it will be ok” kinda guy…??

    Pick 28 is 2nd Round, pretty good players have been secured at 28  

    McAdam was in the “Give him a chance category” or should have been 

     

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    3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

    So a ruptured Achilles tendon was an injury he had in the past was it? 

    No, it was just another added to his CV

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    1 hour ago, bing181 said:

    Just ridiculous and apart from anything else, nothing but hindsight bias. 
     

    A few here are going on about how he was always injured at the Crows, but even without playing full seasons he was in their top 3 for goals in 21 and 22. It was absolutely worth taking a punt on a damaging forward and backing in the fitness staff to get him right. 

    Top 3 for goals in a pi$$ poor team isn't much to hang your hat on.

    Even then he couldn't get through a full season without getting injured.

    A very poor return for what we gave the Crows.

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    1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Hindsight Bias, are you serious??

    If you buy a 2nd hand car, do you study its history, finding out as much as you can? Or are you a fingers crossed “hope it will be ok” kinda guy…??

    Pick 28 is 2nd Round, pretty good players have been secured at 28  

    McAdam was in the “Give him a chance category” or should have been 

     

    Ridiculous, if you buy an old car with some potential and you’re a great mechanic then of course you take the punt. Our fitness people had him on the verge of fulfilling his talent. His injury is a cruel blow for a kid who’s apparently worked his backside off to give himself the best chance at success. Yes he’s likely a bust in the cruel light of day but pick 28 rarely gets you a 200 game player. The club will help him recover and he’ll likely be delisted and we’ll move on. He won’t be the last pick in the late 20’s to play very few games. Ranting about wasteful picks is hyperbole. 

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    21 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

    Great picture of well meaning but totally clueless Demonland posters🤣🤣🤣🤣

    What an obnoxious response…

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    42 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Ridiculous, if you buy an old car with some potential and you’re a great mechanic then of course you take the punt. Our fitness people had him on the verge of fulfilling his talent. His injury is a cruel blow for a kid who’s apparently worked his backside off to give himself the best chance at success. Yes he’s likely a bust in the cruel light of day but pick 28 rarely gets you a 200 game player. The club will help him recover and he’ll likely be delisted and we’ll move on. He won’t be the last pick in the late 20’s to play very few games. Ranting about wasteful picks is hyperbole. 

    I am certainly not ranting.
    McAdam should have always been a late pick. His body had let him down too many times, that is a fact. 
    His career is over at the Top level, and his output on the field was negligible. 
     

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    23 hours ago, demon3165 said:

    God help us that players want to spend less time at their job while us normal people spend 8 hours + day at work for for less money than they are on for six months a year and have 8 weeks + a year off come off it give me a break.

    Mate if you were better than 99.5% of the People in your chosen field, as AFL players are, you probably would be on the same wage and entitlements!  People are quick to forget this fact, even the last player on a list is better than 99% of the players in other leagues

    (And to quote the great G Lyon, you've been "Mated")

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    Trading for players is a gamble. You win some, you lose some.

    It's probably review and learn situation with each trade.

    Lately we have lost more than gained.

    Fortunately our recruiting/drafting has been good.

     

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    Watching the 2021 PF against the Cats as you do

    My word we were ferocious 

    Spargo was amazing too. Can’t wait to get him back

    Miss Gus though. He could do everything

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    15 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

    A lot of posters here have been kidding themselves about McAdam. The fact that he tried hard & is a lovely bloke are beside the point.

    There is a reason he has never completed a full season at AFL level.

    Certainly talented but struggled with fitness & very injury prone.  

    He was always a high risk pick & now it's looking like a bust.

    Odd that you didn't mention most of that when we were looking at him:

    On 06/09/2023 at 09:44, Cranky Franky said:

    Certainly talented & has that x factor. Not sure he is the most team oriented player going - seems a tad hungry but then again maybe that's not a bad thing in a forward.

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    On 15/02/2025 at 22:30, demon3165 said:

    God help us that players want to spend less time at their job while us normal people spend 8 hours + day at work for for less money than they are on for six months a year and have 8 weeks + a year off come off it give me a break.

    you don’t think we should do what’s best for our players and the team?

    Or are you just trying to vent about your own life? Us ‘normal’ people don’t kick a ball for a living 

    There is probably a 9-5 middle class workers forum out there to rant on 

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    7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    It was a very poor decision by the MFC to give up Pick 28 for McAdam. 
    if we had used Pick 70 i wouldn’t have minded one bit, he has loads of talent, but he was always injured at The Croms  

    Trading Senior Players has let us down very badly in the last 2-3 years 

    Not what you said 15 months ago though is it. In fact, you were quite enthusiastic about both McAdam and using our future 2nd:

    On 13/10/2023 at 05:23, Sir Why You Little said:

    Right now we have Petty and Melksham out on long term injuries 

    McAdam fills a very important need for 2024

    and:

    On 17/10/2023 at 04:34, Sir Why You Little said:

    McAdam is a good get for F2 pick 

    He kicks goals….

    and:

    On 13/10/2023 at 05:19, Sir Why You Little said:

    My Adelaide Neighbour tells me McAdam is good for 2 goals a game and has a good leap. 
    Future 2nd is a fair trade. 

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    1 hour ago, bing181 said:

    Not what you said 15 months ago though is it. In fact, you were quite enthusiastic about both McAdam and using our future 2nd:

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    There you go…

    i was extremely wrong..

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    1 hour ago, The Jackson FIX said:

    Where/when is the Norf practice match?  Open to the public I assume?

    Arden Street. Yes, open. 

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    7 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Watching the 2021 PF against the Cats as you do

    My word we were ferocious 

    Spargo was amazing too. Can’t wait to get him back

    Miss Gus though. He could do everything

    Ferocious is the word. We were so hard to play against. God I loved watching us play

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