Former MFC President Joe Gutnick calls to make club-shaking moves

[drysdale demon 4,830]

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I see him at many non Sabbath games (Thursday/Sunday/perhaps Saturday nights) in the Premium Members section with a couple other younger family members so unless he's being given tickets by the club then he is a paid up Premium Member.

Tht is the same area as the Redlegs group and I haven't seen him at any games since he got the flick.

He was unheard of during our worst ever period between 2008 and 2014, didn't issue a murmer, all of a sudden he  wants a bit of the limelight. I will stick to my theory that the media have contacted him to continue the stirring.

[58er 6,422]

22 minutes ago, Loose Men Everywhere said:

Mmm dunno about that. He coached the Lions for 3 seasons and won 14 of 66 games. He is well regarded as an assistant coach but it is so hard to assess assistants' ability as a senior coach.

A lot of people on here wanted Goodwin fired and Yze installed, yet look at Richmond. They are a rabble now, with no apparent game plan. 

But they had 45 injuries don’t you know?

[drysdale demon 4,830]

3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Green probably accepted as a courtesy given Gutnik was President in the early part of Green's career.

Green seems a lovely bloke but not very 'street wise' particularly in the business world.  A bit naive perhaps. 

It was fairly low for an ex-President to blab to the media and I have no idea why he would give Robbo a complete rundown of his own ideas. 

Lots of people will come knocking on Geen's door.  He would do well to these lessons.

• beware the Trojan Horse
• keep your friends close but enemies closer

Spot on Lucifer

[DubDee 25,778]

18 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Pressure is being applied. Simon must perform next season….

The last time Goodwin was under this much pressure was the preseason of 2021

A good omen

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

1 minute ago, DubDee said:

The last time Goodwin was under this much pressure was the preseason of 2021

A good omen

Correct. If he hadn’t underperformed over the last 3 years, these articles wouldn’t be written 

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,116]

When you're a caretaker it's right there in the name what you're supposed to do...

[DubDee 25,778]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Correct. If he hadn’t underperformed over the last 3 years, these articles wouldn’t be written 

or if he coached a team that is not the MFC.

Goodwin deserves to be under pressure, but I'm still waiting for the blowtorch to come onto underperforming non-premiership coaches like Nicks, Longmuir, Lyon, etc.

[DubDee 25,778]

Hey Robbo, the bloke who collects my bins just yelled out 'Sack Goodwin'.

Your backpage for tomorrow is sorted

Rubbish Man Wastes No Time Dirtying up Goody

[Freddy Fuschia 741]

15 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Correct. If he hadn’t underperformed over the last 3 years, these articles wouldn’t be written 

"Underperformed"?

There are 17 other clubs who all have coaches.

Tell me how many have matched Goody's performance and why?

[Monbon 1,840]

Joe should stick to what he's good at. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

or if he coached a team that is not the MFC.

Goodwin deserves to be under pressure, but I'm still waiting for the blowtorch to come onto underperforming non-premiership coaches like Nicks, Longmuir, Lyon, etc.

Nicks and Longmuir are not in Victoria, not an issue 

Goodwin has underperformed in 3 Seasons along with a lot of off field distractions. 
His contract should never have been extended before last years Final Series, but that was Roffey & Pert. 

[Adam The God 30,212]

18 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Correct. If he hadn’t underperformed over the last 3 years, these articles wouldn’t be written 

Rubbish.

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

1 minute ago, Freddy Fuschia said:

"Underperformed"?

There are 17 other clubs who all have coaches.

Tell me how many have matched Goody's performance and why?

2 Finals Series out in Straight Sets on the MCG, followed by 14th. 
Using the same forward gameplan for all 3 years. 
 

I call that underperforming and a Fail

[Sydney Pennski 294]

2 minutes ago, Monbon said:

Joe should stick to what he's good at. 

Based on what we've seen today, that's not a lot.

[Whispering_Jack 29,938]

41 minutes ago, Rolling Stone said:

 

A set up in the Herald Sun's dreadful campaign against the Melbourne Football Club dishonestly suggesting that there was a mutiny at the club based on a poll taken on line.

"Thousands of Melbourne fans have backed former president Joe Gutnick's call for the embattled club to sack coach Simon Goodwin."

The poll was open to the public and there's no evidence as to how many of the people who voted are Melbourne fans.

This is a disgraceful and dishonest set up against Simon Goodwin and a breach of journalistic ethics. The only person who deserves to get the sack is the person responsible for this outrage.

I'm not sure as to how many of you here are subscribers but my wife is and, as a result I voted and I also left a comment about the way I feel.

Anyone who knows about polling, will tell you that the conclusion reached by Robinson about Melbourne supporters' attitudes to Gutnick's comments is fatally flawed. The respondents could be supporters of any one of the 18 AFL clubs or indeed, supporters of none of them. This is shocking but unsurprising given the consistently anti MFC reporting from this newspaper.

If you subscribe to the the Herald Sun, you too can vote and leave a comment (up to you how you vote and what you write). It will be interesting to see if it gets a pass from the moderator.

[DubDee 25,778]

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

2 Finals Series out in Straight Sets on the MCG, followed by 14th. 
Using the same forward gameplan for all 3 years. 
 

I call that underperforming and a Fail

I think we can all agree to disagree and not keep saying the same thing over and over

Some people think Goodwin has been top 4 H&A for 3 straight years and done well despite poor finals losses and a bad year this year. Others think he has failed.

One thing is fact - he is the best coach we've had in 60 years

[Wells 11 5,395]

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

2 Finals Series out in Straight Sets on the MCG, followed by 14th. 
Using the same forward gameplan for all 3 years. 
 

I call that underperforming and a Fail

All 4 finals we could or should have won. Bad kicking for goal was what cost us... Goody cant take their shots for them. The game plan provided the opportunities. Hinkley has been slaughtered consistently in finals...if that was the Dees Id be thinking differently. 

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

10 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I think we can all agree to disagree and not keep saying the same thing over and over

Some people think Goodwin has been top 4 H&A for 3 straight years and done well despite poor finals losses and a bad year this year. Others think he has failed.

One thing is fact - he is the best coach we've had in 60 years

Poor Finals Results on our Home Ground is what counts 

[Sir Why You Little 37,016]

11 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

All 4 finals we could or should have won. Bad kicking for goal was what cost us... Goody cant take their shots for them. The game plan provided the opportunities. Hinkley has been slaughtered consistently in finals...if that was the Dees Id be thinking differently. 

Port Adelaide can do whatever they like. 
Hinkley should have been terminated after the ‘21 Preliminary Final 

[drysdale demon 4,830]

44 minutes ago, Monbon said:

Joe should stick to what he's good at. 

nothing

[Satyriconhome 10,756]

34 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Poor Finals Results on our Home Ground is what counts 

You are like a broken record, no matter how many times you will kick the club, others will disagree with your opinion, get over it.

[djr 1,445]

20 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Poor Finals Results on our Home Ground is what counts 

Its quite sad for supporters who are not capable of enjoying the journey we have been on since 2018.

[Jaded No More 68,879]

1 hour ago, Rolling Stone said:

 

A set up in the Herald Sun's dreadful campaign against the Melbourne Football Club dishonestly suggesting that there was a mutiny at the club based on a poll taken on line.

"Thousands of Melbourne fans have backed former president Joe Gutnick's call for the embattled club to sack coach Simon Goodwin."

The poll was open to the public and there's no evidence as to how many of the people who voted are Melbourne fans.

This is a disgraceful and dishonest set up against Simon Goodwin and a breach of journalistic ethics. The only person who deserves to get the sack is the person responsible for this outrage.

 

1 hour ago, Dee*ceiving said:

Disgraceful from the HUN.

Shameful

 

And once again watch our club do nothing, say nothing, and let this narrative that we are in turmoil continue to be played out publicly.

Whoever the [censored] is responsible for our comms needs to take a long walk off a short pier. Absolutely woeful. 

[Ugottobekidding 1,184]

Gutnick doesn't have much weight at the club anymore. Just trying to remain relevant 

[Dr. Mubutu 850]

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Just a few then, Smashed by West Coast, West Coast ????Continuation of Petty as a forward, refusal to send a hard tag on Horne Francis, Daicos, et all various selections blunders including selecting Brown for one game making him sub then dropping him, not putting more games into Moniz Wakefield, not selecting Jeffo vs Gold Coast ( ideal lead in game) and many others! Justa a few instances !

I'll pay this, but he *did* send a tag to Daicos on KB, and it truly did limit his damage. Poor willingness to contest from players isn't within the coach's purview on gameday.

Selection I don't see as a gameday issue, and I very highly doubt it is all Goodwin's call, but agree to disagree.

 

Edit: apologies for sidetracking the thread, but back on topic: Gutnick obviously has some time to kill given he can't be a director for any companies at the moment. Gotta keep that public profile happening somehow

Edited September 12 by Dr. Mubutu