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Sounds like quite a few Demonlanders have the benefit of Hynes sight on this one

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With pick swapping, unfortunately the Dees are now out of the frame for Hynes.  Heโ€™s likely to go at live pick 18-20 so GWS, Tigers or Swans most likely his destination.  


  On 21/10/2024 at 23:47, spirit of norm smith said:

With pick swapping, unfortunately the Dees are now out of the frame for Hynes.  Heโ€™s likely to go at live pick 18-20 so GWS, Tigers or Swans most likely his destination.  

Well itโ€™s still possible if they dearly want a player for specific needs or if they very unwisely try to split pick 9. Not the year to do it I donโ€™t think. 

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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-draft-is-just-weeks-away-here-s-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-top-40-prospects-20241024-p5kl0v.html

 

The Age reporting there's still interest for Cooper Hynes. It would have made a lot of sense when we had the second rounder but I just think reaching for him at pick 9 is a tad too far with the amount of talent we'll have to choose from

Re: Pick 12 where the Age has us picking Armstrong:

'The Demons are also big fans of Dandenong Stingrays bull Cooper Hynes'

28. Cooper Hynes (Richmond)

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Metro
Midfielder/forward, 190cm, 28/2/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.7 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.5 goals
The Ageโ€™s August top 30: N/A October top 30: 27
Agility test: N/A 20m sprint: N/A 2km time trial: N/A

This might be far too low for Hynes, who could go as high as Melbourneโ€™s second pick, with West Coast and Port Adelaide among his admirers. The common retort about the powerful Stingrays product is that he has the widest draft range of any player. Formed a great one-two punch with Harvey Langford, and they often switched between the forward line and midfield. There are some lofty AFL comparisons for him, from Cam Zurhaar to even Clayton Oliver. Hynesโ€™ endurance needs to improve, but his forward and clearance craft are rated highly.

 

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Would not mind it one bit if we took him with 9.

Enormous upside in terms that he could genuinely explode in the next couple of years with his sheer power and strength.  

Probably similar to Chard Warner who was a 3rd round draft pick.

It's such a jason Taylor thing to do to reach for a particular player they like.

Edited by dazzledavey36

 

I wonder if player x is available at 9 that we would take but if Richmond really want would they offer 11 and 18 or 20 for 9. As example we may plan to take Armstrong but be willing to let them trade up if they really wanted him seeing the combo of Shanahan (11) and Hynes (18)as greater overall value. 

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  On 01/11/2024 at 06:31, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

I wonder if player x is available at 9 that we would take but if Richmond really want would they offer 11 and 18 or 20 for 9. As example we may plan to take Armstrong but be willing to let them trade up if they really wanted him seeing the combo of Shanahan (11) and Hynes (18)as greater overall value. 

Would love that. A lot would have to go right for us there though.


Wow. The sellout of five picks including future first round 2025 for โ€œ9โ€ to get Hynes would be optimistic or perhaps beyond this โ€ฆ misti-optic!!! Heโ€™s very good.  But heโ€™s a HFF/mid.  โ€œ9โ€ will need to be our second star.  I do admit I do like Hynes style of aggressive play but imv others appeal more at 9. 

Ps We might split โ€œ9โ€ for Eagles 12 & 26.  Surely then Hynes comes into play.  Lindsay, Hotton or Hynes at โ€œ12โ€ (15) then elite defender next gen best CHB James Barrat or Clancy Dennis  at โ€œ26โ€ (32)

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What I like about Hynes is that he has great power (which we always value highly) and he plays the game an odd way. He does weird things on the field, sort of like a Nate Caddy or Jake Stringer does. When youโ€™re looking for ways to create goals and be dangerous, itโ€™s sometimes the players who do weird things that can make a difference. I think Hynes would be in part exhilarating and infuriating, but sometimes you need that element in your forward line.

The power in his game is very enticing.

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  On 01/11/2024 at 11:15, Axis of Bob said:

What I like about Hynes is that he has great power (which we always value highly) and he plays the game an odd way. He does weird things on the field, sort of like a Nate Caddy or Jake Stringer does. When youโ€™re looking for ways to create goals and be dangerous, itโ€™s sometimes the players who do weird things that can make a difference. I think Hynes would be in part exhilarating and infuriating, but sometimes you need that element in your forward line.

The power in his game is very enticing.

It's the power that I love, but it's a great call RE "weird things". He's definitely unpredictable. That's kind of what I was getting at with my Stevie J comparison early on.

I follow this guy closely and enjoy his draft content.

Well worth the follow.

 

  On 01/11/2024 at 11:15, Axis of Bob said:

What I like about Hynes is that he has great power (which we always value highly) and he plays the game an odd way. He does weird things on the field, sort of like a Nate Caddy or Jake Stringer does. When youโ€™re looking for ways to create goals and be dangerous, itโ€™s sometimes the players who do weird things that can make a difference. I think Hynes would be in part exhilarating and infuriating, but sometimes you need that element in your forward line.

The power in his game is very enticing.

I want to hear commentators adopt โ€˜weird thingsโ€™ into the vernacular! Need an alternative to โ€˜X factorโ€™ and I think youโ€™ve found it @Axis of Bob


  On 01/11/2024 at 05:31, Young Blood said:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-draft-is-just-weeks-away-here-s-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-top-40-prospects-20241024-p5kl0v.html

 

The Age reporting there's still interest for Cooper Hynes. It would have made a lot of sense when we had the second rounder but I just think reaching for him at pick 9 is a tad too far with the amount of talent we'll have to choose from

Re: Pick 12 where the Age has us picking Armstrong:

'The Demons are also big fans of Dandenong Stingrays bull Cooper Hynes'

28. Cooper Hynes (Richmond)

Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Metro
Midfielder/forward, 190cm, 28/2/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 23.7 disposals, 4.7 clearances, 1.5 goals
The Ageโ€™s August top 30: N/A October top 30: 27
Agility test: N/A 20m sprint: N/A 2km time trial: N/A

This might be far too low for Hynes, who could go as high as Melbourneโ€™s second pick, with West Coast and Port Adelaide among his admirers. The common retort about the powerful Stingrays product is that he has the widest draft range of any player. Formed a great one-two punch with Harvey Langford, and they often switched between the forward line and midfield. There are some lofty AFL comparisons for him, from Cam Zurhaar to even Clayton Oliver. Hynesโ€™ endurance needs to improve, but his forward and clearance craft are rated highly.

 

Surely we just go the Langford/Hynes combo 

Wonder if these means we would be more likely to split 9 and get him and another pick in the 20s.

Oops. Skim read the article and missed the bit that mentions a pick slide for hynes.

 

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  On 11/11/2024 at 06:48, Nascent said:

Wonder if these means we would be more likely to split 9 and get him and another pick in the 20s.

 

Maybe, but I genuinely believe that we actually could use pick 9 on him.

In terms of talent there is actually not much of a difference between him and the talent around the pick 8-13 mark. In fact, I'm surprised he's not rated that highly based on his numbers and form this year.

  On 11/11/2024 at 07:05, dazzledavey36 said:

Maybe, but I genuinely believe that we actually could use pick 9 on him.

In terms of talent there is actually not much of a difference between him and the talent around the pick 8-13 mark. In fact, I'm surprised he's not rated that highly based on his numbers and form this year.

Agree, he stands out whenever I see him play. Will be a beast when he gets midfield fitness under him.

Another I quite like around this range is Berry, do you have any insights into him?

Just looks a classy player with toughness and skill. More than just a small forward for mine.


If we want Hynes, simply draft him at 9 to ensure we get him (depending on who else is on the board). Simples.

JT saw us linked to a 180cm mid and said show me the bulls

  On 11/11/2024 at 07:26, Nascent said:

Agree, he stands out whenever I see him play. Will be a beast when he gets midfield fitness under him.

Another I quite like around this range is Berry, do you have any insights into him?

Just looks a classy player with toughness and skill. More than just a small forward for mine.

Yeah we've interviewed Berry for sure. I don't have too much of an update on how much of an interest we have in him.

The two bushie boys I know we've spoken to a fair bit since their season ended are Josh Murphy, Ben Kennedy and Ollie Warburton. 

 
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  On 11/11/2024 at 06:30, dazzledavey36 said:

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This is what I'm starting to believe. I think we'll simply snap Hynes up at 9.

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