Christian Petracca

[layzie 32,751]

4 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

Archie Perkins?! The same Archie Perkins who currently can’t even get in the Essendon side?

Well maybe that tells you exactly why they're in the shape they're in! 

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,103]

28 minutes ago, No. 31 said:

Agree 100% ... so many eager to turn on Tracc when we all know his injury situation was really badly mishandled. A diplomacy offensive is required, not throwing stones his way.

 

Aw shucks...not even a couple of pebbles? Some pea gravel? 

Edited August 19 by Rab D Nesbitt

[WiseDeeMan 40]

 

The longer this Petracca saga drags out, the more I’m leaning towards he’s going. He should have addressed it by now, and the fact he hasn’t, suggests he wants out in my view. 

 

Melbourne rightfully are playing the “he’s contracted and not going anywhere” card. 

 

But for f*+k sake MFC, if he does want to go, make a stance, and stop playing ‘nice guy’. 

 

You send him to the club that offers the best return for the our club ANYWHERE in Australia…not, oh “he wants to go to Collingwood” because it’s nice and convenient for him! With all due respect f^*k him!

 

This also sends a firm message to anyone else wanting to break contract - you can request a trade, but where you end up, is up to us. 

 

My sneaky suspicion is the managers have too much power in the AFL and clubs are scared to upset them. 

 

I’m sick of contracted players calling the shots in AFL “Im home sick”, but I will only play for this specific team. 

 

In US sports, if you are contracted, the clubs will trade you where suits the CLUB, not the individual. When you become a free agent, then you can call the shots. That’s what FREE AGENCY is. 

 

Also, they rarely ever send them to a team that’s a potential fellow contender (eg. exactly the opposite of what we did with Grundy last year), you send them to the [censored] end of the competition!

 

As a top 5 player in the comp (categorically), he’s worth at least 3 top 10 picks (as per Dangerfield, Tim Kelly, Jeremy Cameron etc) and the only clubs that could come up with that, are the bottom of the ladder teams most likely. See how he likes it there. 

[Jaded No More 67,612]

9 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Hawthorn and Collingwood would be the 2 clubs he would go to

So who do we take?

Why Hawthorn? 

Hawthorn we could do a deal with, but isn't their first pick going to Barrass? I wouldn't actually want their future 1st as I reckon they'll do very well next year with Trac in their team.

As for Collingwood, they have nothing we would take that they would be willing to trade. Quaynor maybe, but they would have to find 2 first rounders to go with that, which seems impossible given they don't even have one

 

[Young Angus 685]

Trac for whatever we can trade with West Coast for Harley Reid. Tell me there are many who wouldn’t be open to that deal as much as we all love Trac…if Trac does in fact want to leave of course. 
 

Harley Reid should be the only outcome we will entertain for trading out Trac. 

Edited August 19 by Young Angus

[Gawndy the Great 9,009]

At least the media seem to be realistic with the asking price 2 top 10 + player ; 3 first rounders. No doubt this is what Tim Lamb / club have fed back to Trac's management. This, plus the very clear message coming from Pert / Goodwin / Gawn that we will hold him to contract means we will not budge.

Bottom line is Trac goes to a club where we are fairly compensated. He seeks a powerhouse Victorian club. The only one that fits that bill is Richmond. Pick 1 + established star player (Bolton for example). Richmond would be bonkers to even consider it. 

Essendon is closer: Pick 8 + F1 + player. Not going to be a star player like Merrett or an up and comer like Caddy, but someone more like a Parish or Caldwell.

Pies / Blues would have to give up too much.

[Young Angus 685]

Just hope we hold on to him, want to see him back to his best and hopefully a lot of this talk is just click bait nonsense anyway. 

[Ted Lasso 18,760]

2 firsts and Nate Caddy might be the best i've seen. 

I can't see Carlton doing any deal that involves McKay/ Curnow, if they would do that i think we'd consider it if we had to. 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,202]

1 minute ago, Ted Lasso said:

2 firsts and Nate Caddy might be the best i've seen. 

I can't see Carlton doing any deal that involves McKay/ Curnow, if they would do that i think we'd consider it if we had to. 

They’d consider McKay but not Curnow IMO, I’d want DeKoning.

[Davos 786]

What about 2 firsts + Sam Durham from Essendon?

[demoniac 1,295]

Ballpark starting point would be North's Pick 2 and? + Duursma.

Dees need to make it clear what players/picks combination would enable us to trade Petracca out. We need to rule out future picks as their value is uncertain.

Variable is unfortunately what tactics Paul Connors uses to try and force us to deal. Particularly in context of Petracca's return to the ground in the Pies game.

For mine its clear he wants to leave but knows that its going to be hard for Dees to get the value and Petracca go to a club he wants to go to. 

[Demonland 70,238]

 

[demoniac 1,295]

1 minute ago, Davos said:

What about 2 firsts + Sam Durham from Essendon?

2 firsts? 

A first can be Pick 18 or later if academy & f/s players bid on early.

And doubt Petracca  wants to go to Essendon.

[layzie 32,751]

20 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

A) Silence

B) absent from the GC game, not even a little nudge on his social media

C) meeting with Lachie Neale, regardless of the intention 

Those are my personal contention points regarding Petracca.

Why let it boil more than it has already?

So perception is reality?

Fair enough. Quite a lot of the time, it is.

[BW511 2,568]

If Collingwood somehow find currency to get this done, doesn’t it pretty much guarantee they are cactus for the next few years?

They will have even less picks and even more players over 30 (Trac being 29)

This only helps the pies and Christian from a PR perspective, definitely not from a winning flags perspective 

 

Edited August 19 by BW511

[Davos 786]

2 minutes ago, demoniac said:

2 firsts? 

A first can be Pick 18 or later if academy & f/s players bid on early.

And doubt Petracca  wants to go to Essendon.

They'll likely have pick 9 (post Battle compo) this year, so there is one top 10 pick. Next year's would likely fall outside of the top 10 though, you are correct.

I think Durham has star upside, and gives us an athletic profile we're sorely missing in the midfield. 

I reckon I'd do that deal, and prefer it to 2 firsts + Caddy.

[Jaded No More 67,612]

6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I find it interesting that Morris has consistently hid behind the 'but it's unlikely' in regards to him requesting a trade or a trade being done, and now he's saying the club is trying to bring the parties together but there is still work there to be done.

He has either backed off on instructions, or he's been told that a deal will not get done so stop burning Trac's bridges with the club

[The Jackson FIX 2,681]

19 minutes ago, Davos said:

What about 2 firsts + Sam Durham from Essendon?

Deal.

[John Crow Batty 8,764]

42 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

Archie Perkins?! The same Archie Perkins who currently can’t even get in the Essendon side?

What has happened to him? Was one of their best and most reliable players the last couple of seasons but now a sad shadow of his former self. Irritable Scott Syndrome perhaps? I’d take punt on him with a second rounder. 

Edited August 19 by John Crow Batty

[The Jackson FIX 2,681]

12 minutes ago, BW511 said:

If Collingwood somehow find currency to get this done, doesn’t it pretty much guarantee they are cactus for the next few years?

 

 

The hypothetical-irony is not lost on me that Collingwood was the car that crashed into Trac (after another car from their fleet ended Brayshaw’s career less than 12 months earlier) and then Christian slips across to the dark side complaining that the Dees didn’t look after him  

[BW511 2,568]

5 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

The hypothetical-irony is not lost on me that Collingwood was the car that crashed into Trac (after another car from their fleet ended Brayshaw’s career less than 12 months earlier) and then Christian slips across to the dark side complaining that the Dees didn’t look after him  

Absolutely

[Die Hard Demon 1,213]

Clarry speculation last year. Petracca this year.. Crazy how much turbulence this club is enduring after actually winning a flag. I can’t handle months of waiting, watching & speculating again. Absolute joke. 

[No. 31 1,061]

45 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Aw shucks...not even a couple of pebbles? Some pea gravel? 

A sprinkling of fine Noosa sand 🏖

[Dr. Gonzo 23,683]

14 hours ago, adonski said:

 

 From the outside it seems a bizarre situation, there's no explanation of why exactly he would want to leave. Is it the injury and the way that was managed? The communication issues highlighted here? Are his issues with the playing group more than the club? Or is he just seeing the writing on the wall for our future prospects and using this as a convenient excuse to push the club to trade him?

It really doesn't add up which is frustrating for the supporters who can only go by what is in the news or what is told to them by the club. It's crazy that it's been left to fester this long and get to this stage, something is seriously wrong if we can't get one of our best players in 60 years back onside. Even if he's not traded this year the speculation will be ongoing until this is put to bed and clubs will be in his ear for the next 12 months trying to woo him leading to more distractions and destabilisation.

[Billy 2,460]

35 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Why Hawthorn? 

Hawthorn we could do a deal with, but isn't their first pick going to Barrass? I wouldn't actually want their future 1st as I reckon they'll do very well next year with Trac in their team.

As for Collingwood, they have nothing we would take that they would be willing to trade. Quaynor maybe, but they would have to find 2 first rounders to go with that, which seems impossible given they don't even have one

 

I don’t care where he wants to go, he goes where we get the best deal!!!

Stuff him he’s done more damage to the MFC, than the few mistakes we’ve apparently made towards him.

You’d think it was one of us that sunk the knee in.

He needs to grow up & stop acting like a spoilt brat, s#*t happens sometimes in life & it’s how you deal with it.

There’s more to it than be a brilliant footballer