ElDiablo14 5,061 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/08/2024 at 05:58, Gawndy the Great said: I don’t think she has to say anything. It’s pretty obvious tbh. What better way to end the speculation, to show the support and unity by rocking up - he could even FIFO it. Trac has just dug himself a big hole that will in one way shape or form shape his legacy. The sooner he realises this, the quicker he can make amends. He needs to get to work over the summer and show up tıp tıp for round 1. Same goes for Oliver, Petty & McAdam. These guys had horrendous pre seasons (some through no fault of their own) and owe us a lift in 2025. If Trac can’t see beyond his own ego and demands a trade, then he’ll go where it best serves the club. No one person is bigger than the club. We all want team success. Expand It boggles the mind to think that Petracca had the whole supporter base and a legacy with the club on he palm of his hand, now it feels like he's throwing it all away. I never in a million years expected this, probably I thought Clarry could be the one to whom this could happen but not Petracca. Edited August 18, 2024 by ElDiablo14 6 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 05:38, ElDiablo14 said: A) Silence B) absent from the GC game, not even a little nudge on his social media C) meeting with Lachie Neale, regardless of the intention Those are my personal contention points regarding Petracca. Why let it boil more than it has already? Expand Add to that all the media noise. I think it’s safe to say that whilst there is definitely some mayo on it, it has turned out to be true. Quote
dees189227 12,542 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 Maybe Gus could talk some sense into him. But I'm sure many conversations are going on behind the scenes 4 Quote
Grr-owl 1,258 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 02:46, John Crow Batty said: Pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa Expand Immortal. 1 Quote
At the break of Gawn 4,529 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 05:19, layzie said: Must say I'm pretty surprised how in a 24-48 hr period people went from defending Trac to now piling on. I don't live my whole weekend in footy world so I nayeb have missed something but it seems like a quick turn. I guess the silence is off-putting. Expand The inside mail from posters have started filtering in which wasn’t happening earlier in the week. Some of the messages I’ve got from who I’d consider reliable sources is pretty damning on where his priorities lie. 1 Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 06:25, At the break of Gawn said: The inside mail from posters have started filtering in which wasn’t happening earlier in the week. Some of the messages I’ve got from who I’d consider reliable sources is pretty damning on where his priorities lie. Expand Can you share anything or will we have to wait? 1 1 Quote
At the break of Gawn 4,529 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/08/2024 at 06:28, Bombay Airconditioning said: Can you share anything or will we have to wait? Expand Since how it’s not in the media I won’t post as it’s against the site’s rules, but Stevienic23 on the postgame thread did a pretty good job on the broad strokes. Edited August 18, 2024 by At the break of Gawn 4 1 Quote
D4Life 2,584 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 Papley was hellbent on leaving the Swans and that situation turned around as he was on a multi year contract. Trac also has a great multi year contract. Hopefully Max, the leadership team and Goodwin can turn things around with Trac if he is really disgruntled. The injury on KB seemed poorly handled, hopefully the club can review its protocols and address any lingering issue on that front. Clearing out any players not committed to achieving the high performance required to give us a shot at another flag in the not too distant future is also mandatory. 2 Quote
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 01:46, chookrat said: Would raise a few eyebrows if he was in attendance wearing a Collingwood scarf. Expand Or being in their rooms... 1 Quote
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) Actually Id already heard and posted the same. Im not sure about the big crowds aspect, but I do know that his family were shocked about the club posting that he could be back in 6-8 weeks while he was getting a life saving blood transfusion. Edited August 18, 2024 by Norm Smith's Curse Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 06:35, At the break of Gawn said: Since how it’s not in the media I won’t post as it’s against the site’s rules, but Stevienic23 on the postgame thread did a pretty good job on the broad strokes. Expand Surely there’s more to it than that. 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 06:47, Norm Smith's Curse said: Actually Id already heard and posted the same. Im not sure about the big crowds aspect, but I do know that his family were shocked about the club posting that he could be back in 6-8 weeks while he was getting a life saving blood transfusion. Expand Is it possible that the club didn’t know he was getting a blood transfusion? That they went off the initial diagnosis made by the ER doctors that he had broken ribs and a low grade spleen injury? I think we forget that his diagnosis was complex and 3 doctors failed to treat it properly for 6 whole hours. Expecting the clubs to know what would happen in the future, when they were obviously being pressured by fans and media to let everyone know how Trac is, is pretty ridiculous. There was no malice from the club. 9 Quote
sue 9,281 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 06:57, Jaded No More said: Is it possible that the club didn’t know he was getting a blood transfusion? That they went off the initial diagnosis made by the ER doctors that he had broken ribs and a low grade spleen injury? I think we forget that his diagnosis was complex and 3 doctors failed to treat it properly for 6 whole hours. Expecting the clubs to know what would happen in the future, when they were obviously being pressured by fans and media to let everyone know how Trac is, is pretty ridiculous. There was no malice from the club. Expand If as implied the statement was put out before the docs actually knew what was wrong at the hospital (or had yet to convey the bad news to the MFC, which would hardly be a priority for the hospital) then the family needed to have a rethink when they are less emotional. They must by now know that at the ground the seriousness of the injury was unknown, nor did they get it right initially at the hospital? 1 Quote
Norm Smith's Curse 2,602 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/08/2024 at 06:57, Jaded No More said: Is it possible that the club didn’t know he was getting a blood transfusion? That they went off the initial diagnosis made by the ER doctors that he had broken ribs and a low grade spleen injury? I think we forget that his diagnosis was complex and 3 doctors failed to treat it properly for 6 whole hours. Expecting the clubs to know what would happen in the future, when they were obviously being pressured by fans and media to let everyone know how Trac is, is pretty ridiculous. There was no malice from the club. Expand Yeah im not justifying it saying its reasonable or unreasonable but the word was that what started it all. Although the overall injury and recovery is similar to a car accident level. Edited August 18, 2024 by Norm Smith's Curse Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:06, Norm Smith's Curse said: Yeah im not justifying it saying it’s reasonable or unreasonable but the word was that what started it all. Expand Fair enough. Didn’t the AFL also mandate that clubs must list time frames on injury lists this season? I think the club did what they thought was right based on the information they had at the time. Trac is not the first or last player to return to play with a serious injury, nor the first or last player who was listed wrongly on an injury list. To blow your whole relationship with the club that made you who you are over that, seems a tad dramatic. 9 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,769 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) On 18/08/2024 at 03:37, WalkingCivilWar said: If that’s what stopped him from attending what was hoped and planned to be, and ended up being, an extremely important and powerful juncture for our Club, then yes, that’s nonsense IMHO. Besides, I don’t think door-stopping was possible. The players were together at all times. We hung out with them at the airport last night, they all arrived together and stayed together… not a reporter in sight. Expand But had Trac been with them, there might well have been reporters. It's hard to control. (and I'm not a fan of how this has played out) Edited August 18, 2024 by Binmans PA Quote
titan_uranus 25,270 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:10, Jaded No More said: Fair enough. Didn’t the AFL also mandate that clubs must list time frames on injury lists this season? I think the club did what they thought was right based on the information they had at the time. Trac is not the first or last player to return to play with a serious injury, nor the first or last player who was listed wrongly on an injury list. To blow your whole relationship with the club that made you who you are over that, seems a tad dramatic. Expand If the statement had the reported effect, it can’t have been the first thing which impacted Trac’s feelings about the club. It’s far more likely to have been a straw breaking the camel’s back, or a further example of an underlying issue (eg his views on injury management, fitness and conditioning, player comms, public relations, etc). 2 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:13, titan_uranus said: If the statement had the reported effect, it can’t have been the first thing which impacted Trac’s feelings about the club. It’s far more likely to have been a straw breaking the camel’s back, or a further example of an underlying issue (eg his views on injury management, fitness and conditioning, player comms, public relations, etc). Expand That’s what I think too. I can’t imagine this statement is what started it all. 2 Quote
Guest Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:12, Binmans PA said: But had Trac been with them, there might well have been reporters. It's hard to control. (and I'm not a fan of how this has played out) Expand I doubt Tracc’s presence would mean the difference between customary number of reporters, and so many door-stoppers that it’s a problem. And had he been there and reporters turned up in droves, by the same token the Club would’ve taken stronger measures to ensure a wide berth between him and the media. Bottom line imho … if it meant anything to him, he would’ve been there. Quote
ElDiablo14 5,061 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 06:47, Norm Smith's Curse said: Actually Id already heard and posted the same. Im not sure about the big crowds aspect, but I do know that his family were shocked about the club posting that he could be back in 6-8 weeks while he was getting a life saving blood transfusion. Expand Surely you wouldn't blame the whole club. You may demand explanations on why it was handled that way, and whoever is accountable for that should apologise. Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,769 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:32, ElDiablo14 said: Surely you wouldn't blame the whole club. You may demand explanations on why it was handled that way, and whoever is accountable for that should apologise. Expand Correct Quote
chook fowler 19,787 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 I read that his real reason is him wanting to go to a bigger club to increase his profile for life after footy. Not sure how true that is, but makes sense. He is heavily into self promotion. Warming to the idea of him going as long as we get a bunch of high draft picks. 4 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,769 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:39, chook fowler said: I read that his real reason is him wanting to go to a bigger club to increase his profile for life after footy. Not sure how true that is, but makes sense. He is heavily into self promotion. Warming to the idea of him going as long as we get a bunch of high draft picks. Expand Good riddance if that’s how you think. 2 Quote
chook fowler 19,787 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 18/08/2024 at 07:40, DistrACTION Jackson said: Good riddance if that’s how you think. Expand ? Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) Here I was thinking it was to do with indiscretions that have happened over the last 22 months or our inability to have a functioning gameplan fwd of centre. But the mail is an inaccurate media release. Thanks to those who share what they know, but to me this is nothing more than a ruse. Edited August 18, 2024 by Bombay Airconditioning Quote
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