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Silver linings - lots of academy kids means lots of first round picks up for grabs in trades

 

It is going to be weird watching our first pick (natural 36) go up and down wildly as academy bids add one selection to the early draft and then the picks being cashed in for points take other selections away.

We could move as high as 40 and then back down to 30 in the space of an hour.

It’ll be interesting to see what new DVI weightings will do to the process. We might see a lot less of the wild pick fluctuations.

 
2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

As has already been noted, there is plenty of Northern Academy talent around to expand the first night of next year’s draft. Three prospects in the top ten according to Cal Twomey and then there’s Kalani White to consider as well.

Stars of the future: 10 draft prospects to watch in 2025

 

I’m putting Cody Curtin in that group by seasons end, upside of this kid is huge


Lots of top talent again as shown in the futures game on GF day.  I’m seeing another very compromised draft in 2025 as much of the top youngsters are already tied to academies, especially the Suns who might get 4 quality youngsters again (like they did in 2023! ) 

2025 draft early walk … 

ROUND ONE - (24 players)

Dyson Sharp (likely pick 1) 
Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
Willem Duursma
Zeke Uwland (GCS Academy) *
Daniel Annable (Brisbane Lions Academy) *
Fred Rodriguez
Cooper Duff-Tytler
Cody Curtin
Sam Cumming
Oliver Greeves
Jack Dalton
Riley Onley
Louis Emmett
Josh Lindsay
Ryder Corrigan (GWS Giants Academy) *
Dylan Patterson (GCS Academy) *
Liam Hetherton (GWS Academy) *
Beau Addinsall (GCS Giants Academy) *
Felix Kneipp
Basil Hart (Fremantle NGA) *
Archie Ludowyke
Thomas McGuane (Collingwood FS) *
Sam Grlj
Tairon Ah-Mu (Melbourne NGA but not eligible for selection)

ROUND TWO

Thomas Burton
Max King (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Kalani White (Melbourne FS/GCS Academy) *
Luke Candy
Ben Rongdit (Geelong NGA) *
Lachlan Dovaston
Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
Matthew LeRay
Harley Barker
Jai Murray (GCS Academy) *
Charlie Banfield (WCE FS) *
Darcy Montgomery
Wes Walley (WCE NGA) *
Koby Evans (WCE NGA) *
Noah Chamberlain (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Lachlan Carmichael (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Aiden Schubert
Toby Sinnema (Melbourne NGA) *
Louis Kellaway (Richmond FS) *
Jim Kelly
Marcus Cassidy
Jadd Hill
Noah Roberts-Thompson
Taj Longmuir (son of Troy but not eligble for any club as a FS) *
Toby Whan (Fremantle NGA) *
Xavier Bamert
Jobe Scapin

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Just some notes on your WA boys based on my observations

Lots of top talent again as shown in the futures game on GF day.  I’m seeing another very compromised draft in 2025 as much of the top youngsters are already tied to academies, especially the Suns who might get 4 quality youngsters again (like they did in 2023! ) 

2025 draft early walk … 

1st round - 24 players 

Fred Rodriguez - accumulator through the middle who is hard around the contest and penetrating kick, personally think his Bulldogs team mate Whan is the better player 

Cody Curtin - huge upside key tall with mobility and applies ground level pressure as a forward but can play as key defender with really good closing speed. Think he’ll play mostly senior footy for Claremont next year and I think top 10 prospect who by seasons end will push top 5

Basil Hart(** Freo NGA) interrupted year but has some nice tricks and impacts the scoreboard but not really consistent or shown enough IMO to be considered in the first few rounds 

2nd round 

Charlie Banfield(**WCE FS) - like his dad very versatile, likely to play more through the middle in his senior year but with his endurance and height as a mid has a great ability to float forward  and have mismatch to result in scoreboard impact

Darcy Montgomery - very talented player but lacks drive, be surprised if he makes many appearances for the state side unless attitude changes can’t see him being drafted

Wes Walley(**WCE NGA) - cruised through this year before getting a reality check after returning from the national championships, where lack of second efforts and desire to chase saw him dropped from Subiaco colts, came back into their preliminary final side and used his pace to apply pressure and maintain repeat efforts. This kid has serious talent - speed, lateral movement, high leap and can tackle with intensity.,I personally think Subiaco colts coaching panel may have done the right thing last year and if he maintains focus and plays to his potential he will attract plenty of interest 

Koby Evans(**WCE NGA) - different to Walley in terms of works really hard but doesn’t have Walleys skill set. Athletic, hardworking and potential late pick or rookie at this stage

Marcus Cassidy - not sure he makes it, exceptional junior who I think stagnated a little last year. Knows how to find the footy around the stoppages and can impact scoreboard but I will watch with interest this season to see if he can recapture promise shown as a 15 year old

Jadd Hill - moves really well around the stoppages and has some power to break free from clearance and deliver deep inside 50. Hard nut who uses the ball fairly well and has smarts, I think his size and not having real X factor or polish will impact draft potential 

Taj Longmuir… son of Troy !!! Really good by foot and accumulates the footy off half back. I don’t see him getting drafted unless something changes and a focus moves from accumulating to making an impact with less possessions. Doesn’t play forward much but that’s where I think he’s best suited

Toby Whan(** Frem NGA) - really like him has polish, good decision maker who hurts opposition with ball in hand. Reads the play really well, which sees him find the footy in transition and hit  up a team mate or impact the scoreboard 

Some you didn’t mention 

Blake Kelly - smart inside midfielder who uses the footy really well and works really hard with 2 way run to get back and assist defenders, whilst finding plenty of footy in transition chains with workrate

Harley Cummings (son of Scott) Developing defender with good foot skills, good attitude and reads the play well to intercept. If he continues to grow (currently 192cm) I think he’ll make a good KPD, but will IMO be a 3rd tall defender at worst. Played majority of his junior footy in Western Football league at Flemington I think before family moved back to WA in 2022, think this is the reason he’s not talked about as much but he’s gaining interest and being noticed in the local talent program

Cooper Ramsey - came from nowhere plucked from basketball at the end of 2023 and played as an overager at the National 16s. Has plenty of upside as an athletic ruck and well worth keeping an eye on 

Peter Young - key tall who did ACL in 24 pre season, has footy smarts, athleticism and good user by foot for a tall. Can play either end of the ground as a key forward or defender but also can play the intercept defender role

 

 

On 22/11/2024 at 22:48, adonski said:

Silver linings - lots of academy kids means lots of first round picks up for grabs in trades

What if the academy kids are better?

 
15 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

What if the academy kids are better?

What if the sun doesn't rise tomorrow, Bowser?

Edited by adonski


My long range top ten draft selections for 2025:

1. Dyson Sharp Midfielder Height: 188cm (Central District SA)

2. Zeke Uwland Midfielder Height: 178cm (Gold Coast Suns Academy)

3. Willem Duursma Utility Height: 191cm (Gippsland Power)

4. Oliver Greeves Midfielder Height: 191cm (Eastern Ranges) 

5. Daniel Annable Midfielder Height: 183cm (Brisbane Lions Academy) 

6. Riley Onley Midfielder Height: 194cm (Murray Bushrangers) 

7. Dylan Patterson Midfielder Height: 183cm (Gold Coast Suns Academy)

8. Josh Lindsay Midfielder Height: 182cm (Geelong Falcons)

9. Louis Emmett Ruck-Forward Height: 198cm (Oakleigh Chargers)

10. Cody Archie Ludowyke Defender Height: 197cm (Sandringham Dragons)

Plenty of Academy players to bid against!

On 28/11/2024 at 15:05, spirit of norm smith said:

ROUND ONE - (24 players)

Dyson Sharp (likely pick 1) 
Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
Willem Duursma
Zeke Uwland (GCS Academy) *
Daniel Annable (Brisbane Lions Academy) *
Fred Rodriguez
Cooper Duff-Tytler
Cody Curtin
Sam Cumming
Oliver Greeves
Jack Dalton
Riley Onley
Louis Emmett
Josh Lindsay
Ryder Corrigan (GWS Giants Academy) *
Dylan Patterson (GCS Academy) *
Liam Hetherton (GWS Academy) *
Beau Addinsall (GCS Giants Academy) *
Felix Kneipp
Basil Hart (Fremantle NGA) *
Archie Ludowyke
Thomas McGuane (Collingwood FS) *
Sam Grlj
Tairon Ah-Mu

ROUND TWO

Thomas Burton
Max King (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Kalani White (Melbourne FS/GCS Academy) *
Luke Candy
Ben Rongdit (Geelong NGA) *
Lachlan Dovaston
Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
Matthew LeRay
Harley Barker
Jai Murray (GCS Academy) *
Charlie Banfield (WCE FS) *
Darcy Montgomery
Wes Walley (WCE NGA) *
Koby Evans (WCE NGA) *
Noah Chamberlain (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Lachlan Carmichael (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Aiden Schubert
Toby Sinnema
Louis Kellaway (Richmond FS) *
Jim Kelly
Marcus Cassidy
Jadd Hill
Noah Roberts-Thompson
Taj Longmuir (son of Troy but not eligble for any club as a FS) *
Toby Whan (Fremantle NGA) *
Xavier Bamert
Jobe Scapin

Tairon Ah-Mu deserves an asterisk as well.

(Melbourne NGA but not eligible under the usual NGA rules … because, Melbourne) *

On 28/11/2024 at 15:05, spirit of norm smith said:

Lots of top talent again as shown in the futures game on GF day.  I’m seeing another very compromised draft in 2025 as much of the top youngsters are already tied to academies, especially the Suns who might get 4 quality youngsters again (like they did in 2023! ) 

2025 draft early walk … 

ROUND ONE - (24 players)

Dyson Sharp (likely pick 1) 
Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves
Willem Duursma
Zeke Uwland (GCS Academy) *
Daniel Annable (Brisbane Lions Academy) *
Fred Rodriguez
Cooper Duff-Tytler
Cody Curtin
Sam Cumming
Oliver Greeves
Jack Dalton
Riley Onley
Louis Emmett
Josh Lindsay
Ryder Corrigan (GWS Giants Academy) *
Dylan Patterson (GCS Academy) *
Liam Hetherton (GWS Academy) *
Beau Addinsall (GCS Giants Academy) *
Felix Kneipp
Basil Hart (Fremantle NGA) *
Archie Ludowyke
Thomas McGuane (Collingwood FS) *
Sam Grlj
Tairon Ah-Mu

ROUND TWO

Thomas Burton
Max King (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Kalani White (Melbourne FS/GCS Academy) *
Luke Candy
Ben Rongdit (Geelong NGA) *
Lachlan Dovaston
Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
Matthew LeRay
Harley Barker
Jai Murray (GCS Academy) *
Charlie Banfield (WCE FS) *
Darcy Montgomery
Wes Walley (WCE NGA) *
Koby Evans (WCE NGA) *
Noah Chamberlain (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Lachlan Carmichael (Sydney Swans Academy) *
Aiden Schubert
Toby Sinnema
Louis Kellaway (Richmond FS) *
Jim Kelly
Marcus Cassidy
Jadd Hill
Noah Roberts-Thompson
Taj Longmuir (son of Troy but not eligble for any club as a FS) *
Toby Whan (Fremantle NGA) *
Xavier Bamert
Jobe Scapin

Toby Sinnema a Melb NGA prospect for 2025

  • 2 weeks later...

If Kalani White (assuming he chooses us) and Toby Sinnema end up being top 20/30 prospects we will have done so well these last 3 drafts. Windsor, Kolt, Langford, Lindsay, White and Sinnema.

Quite funny all the people I talk to are like ‘oh what’s going on with the Dees, rebuild time hey?’ I just respond with don’t be surprised if we are back in the 8. They look at me surprised

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Davo-27 in bigfooty has nominated 77 kids to watch next year starting with his early prediction of the top 5 prospects:-

1. Dyson Sharp (SA) (pick 1 favourite)
2. Fred Rodriguez (WA)
3. Riley Onley (VC)
4. Oliver Greeves (VM)
5. Zeke Uwland (Allies)

VICTORIA 

Oliver Greeves 191cm Eastern VIC
Thomas McGuane (Coll FS) 177cm Western VIC
Lachlan Dovaston 176cm Eastern VIC
Sam Grlj 182cm Oakleigh VIC
Jack Dalton 177cm Sand VIC
Cooper Duff-Tytler 199cm Calder VIC
Felix Kneipp 177cm Calder VIC
Riley Onley 194cm Murray VIC
Archie Ludowyke 195cm Sand VIC
Willem Duursma 191cm Gippsland VIC
Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves 185cm Dand VIC
Josh Lindsay 182cm Geelong VIC
Louis Emmett 198cm Oakleigh VIC
Giuseppe Posterino 176cm Geelong VIC
Thomas Burton 178cm Western VIC
Xavier Bamert 184cm Sand VIC
Mitch Moate 180cm Northern VIC
Jamie Gilchrist 185cm Eastern VIC
Tairon Ah-Mu 198cm Dand VIC
Jobe Scapin 186cm Gipps VIC
Zach O'Keefe 177cm Gipps VIC
Jasper Russell 176cm Dand VIC
Sam Lewis 186cm Dand VIC
Harry Morphet 175cm Geelong VIC
Sam Allen 184cm Oakleigh VIC
Ben Rongdit (Geel NGA) 183cm Geelong VIC
Xavier Taylor 191cm Eastern VIC
Harley Hicks 178cm GWV VIC
Hunter Wright 187cm Bendigo VIC
Isaac Dugdale 179cm Northern VIC
Aaron Sharkie 182cm Oakleigh VIC
Callum Smith 190cm Oakleigh VIC
Charlie Whitehead 191cm Oakleigh VIC
Kobe Williams (Haw FS/WB NGA) 185cm Western VIC
Tyson Gresham 168cm Northern VIC

WESTERN AUSTRALIA 

Fred Rodriguez 183cm Sth Frem WA
Cody Curtin 197cm Clarem WA
Basil Hart (Frem NGA) 183cm Peel WA
Blake Kelly 182cm Swan Dist WA
Marcus Cassidy 186cm East Perth WA
Jadd Hill 176cm Perth WA
Taj Longmuir 179cm South Frem WA
Toby Whan (Frem NGA) 182cm South Frem WA
Sam Swadling 187cm West Perth WA
Charlie Banfield (WCE FS) 188cm Clarem WA
Darcy Montgomery 191cm Subiaco WA
Wes Walley (WCE NGA) 181cm Subiaco WA
Koby Evans (WCE NGA) 186cm Perth WA
Will York 172cm Peel WA
Kaiden Summerall 179cm East Frem WA
Amon Ross 177cm West Perth WA

SOUTH AUSTRALIA 

Dyson Sharp 188cm Central Dist SA
Sam Cumming 184cm South Adel SA
Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier 182cm North Adel SA
Noah Roberts-Thomson 180cm Sturt SA
Aidan Schubert 194cm Central Dist SA
Louis Kellaway (Rich FS) 182cm Sturt SA
Jim Kelly 178cm Norwood SA
Jesse Nye 179cm South Adel SA
Lachlan Sands 179cm WWT SA
Harley Barker 187cm Sturt SA
Blake Thredgold 193cm Sturt SA
Jeff Rozenbilds 177cm Norwood SA
Will Prescott 180cm Norwood SA
Josh Reichelt 180cm Central Dist SA
Luke Candy 183cm Glenlg SA

ALLIES

Zeke Upland (GCS Academy) 178cm GCS Qld
Daniel Annable (Brisbane Academy) 183cm Bris Qld
Ryder Corrigan 185cm (GWS Academy?) Murray NSW
Dylan Patterson (GCS Academy) 183cm GCS Qld
Beau Addinsall (GCS Academy) 180cm GCS Qld
Liam Hetherton 195cm Murray NSW
Noah Chamberlain (Sydney Academy) 192cm Syd A NSW
Lachlan Carmichael (Sydney Academy) 183cm Syd A NSW
Kalani White (Melbourne FS/GCS Academy) 198cm GCS Qld
Max King (Sydney Academy) 191cm Syd NSW
Jack Harrison Bris QLD

If GC make the 8 they can only bid on 2 Academy players. I think Kalani will nominate us in any case.

  • 1 month later...
7 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The Vic Metro and Vic Country Summer Hub squads have been nominated and are profiled here by Rookie Me Central.

PROFILED | 2025 Vic Metro Summer Hub Squad

PROFILED | 2025 Vic Country Summer Hub Squad

Interest here for Melbourne with a father/son prospect and some NGAs.

marcus prasad and toby sinnema both sound genuinely exciting; really encouraging that the latter played more games as a bottom-ager last season than any other player

disappointing that we don't have ah-mu eligible as well, but add kalani white and that's three likely prospects for dees in 2025 in a year in which we don't have a first round selection

I didn't spot a father / son prospect in these profles @Whispering_Jack - presume you were referring to white?


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12 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

I didn't spot a father / son prospect in these profles @Whispering_Jack - presume you were referring to white?

Apologies - you’re right. I’d been reading  another Rookie Me Central article on future players referenced earlier that mentioned him. 

The inability to get direct access to Tairon Ah-Mu is annoying but the rules are the rules and, unless changed in the near future (unlikely), we’re going to have to live with it. Moreover, it might have boiled down to a choice at draft time between Ah-Mu and White so it’s not such a significant problem if we think the latter’s our best choice anyway. 

11 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Prasad is for next year though and he’s very small.

Bugger x 2


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