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3 minutes ago, Bleasey as that said:

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1453491/list-boss-excited-by-fullarton-potential
 

Fullarton was clearly recruited as a ruck-forward as evidenced above. Unless you can show something to the contrary, apart from opinion, that he was recruited as a primary ruckman?

 

Didn't say he was a primary ruck but definitely as back up for Gawn. Evidence is in the wording 'Ruck Forward'. Primarily,  as opposed to primary, a ruck is his intended role. He has been beaten by most VFL rucks this season.

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    2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    nope, he was recruited as a forward who could ruck a bit

    the same role jvr is now playing

    he's simply nowhere near good enough to ruck at afl level

    Agree to disagree but his not good at either. Trent Ormond Allen was a more physical ruckman. Fullarton is a ruck rover at best. We desperately need to go into the market in the off season.

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    2 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

    Didn't say he was a primary ruck but definitely as back up for Gawn. Evidence is in the wording 'Ruck Forward'. Primarily,  as opposed to primary, a ruck is his intended role. He has been beaten by most VFL rucks this season.

    So because the club used the term “Ruck Forward”, you conclude that ruck is his intended role?

     

    That’s one of the most illogical points I’ve read on here in a while.

     

    You would think if someone’s intended role was a ruckman, it would be listed as such.

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    22 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    equal clearance leader

    20 possessions

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    He would have delivered more as a half forward.
    Most of his possessions were from being a loose player - the opposition was also loose.  
    Contested marks anyone?
    No point in having someone in the centre that avoids body contact and dump kicks it. 

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    34 minutes ago, kozzyisalegend said:

    still doesn't defy the fact he was a baffling draft choice

    What's baffling is why you continue to keep picking at this scab. 

    We get it.  You don't agree with the decision to draft Kentfield. 

    No need to make the same post over and over again in multiple threads.

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    3 minutes ago, Deelectable said:

    Agree to disagree but his not good at either. Trent Ormond Allen was a more physical ruckman. Fullarton is a ruck rover at best. We desperately need to go into the market in the off season.

    i don't think that's in question

    but what's the sell? "come and play in the vfl"? not exactly going to be getting someone more capable than fullarton

    if finlayson is pushed out of the pear, i'd consider him a more likely prospect

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    38 minutes ago, kozzyisalegend said:

    still doesn't defy the fact he was a baffling draft choice

    I find it so hilarious that you are a poster that basically only comments on a single issue and that, of all the possible issues to get heated about, drafting a developing young key forward with a nothing pick in the mid season draft is the issue you’ve chosen.

    The world is a weird place.

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    1 minute ago, Bleasey as that said:

    So because the club used the term “Ruck Forward”, you conclude that ruck is his intended role?

     

    That’s one of the most illogical points I’ve read on here in a while.

     

    You would think if someone’s intended role was a ruckman, it would be listed as such.

    You're very slow. Some suggest he was recruited as a forward/ ruck. It was the opposite.  Desperate for another ruck, not forward. If we believe your hypothesis for a second the club lost its mind. Who do you suggest was going to fill in for missing Max? Actually, forget it. Bores now. Why would you debate such an illogical person as myself anyway?

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    1 minute ago, Deelectable said:

    You're very slow. Some suggest he was recruited as a forward/ ruck. It was the opposite.  Desperate for another ruck, not forward. If we believe your hypothesis for a second the club lost its mind. Who do you suggest was going to fill in for missing Max? Actually, forget it. Bores now. Why would you debate such an illogical person as myself anyway?

    There’s no debating our list is devoid of a genuine experienced mature ruckman. I could talk about that for days.

     

    But you are clearly ill informed on Fullarton. And haven’t shown anything to prove “a ruck is his intended role”….

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    1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

    Late to the broadcast- where’s Jefferson?

    Practicing his sales pitch on Pickett at Jefferson Ford run out.

    Guaranteed sale apparently.

    Edited by Tarax Club

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    1 minute ago, Bleasey as that said:

    There’s no debating our list is devoid of a genuine experienced mature ruckman. I could talk about that for days.

     

    But you are clearly ill informed on Fullarton. And haven’t shown anything to prove “a ruck is his intended role”….

    And you the opposite.  And you are also personal. Signing off for this Sunday . Enjoy your evening.

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    11 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

    I find it so hilarious that you are a poster that basically only comments on a single issue and that, of all the possible issues to get heated about, drafting a developing young key forward with a nothing pick in the mid season draft is the issue you’ve chosen.

    The world is a weird place.

    so mid season draft is all nothing picks is it now?

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    8 minutes ago, Bleasey as that said:

    There’s no debating our list is devoid of a genuine experienced mature ruckman. I could talk about that for days.

     

    But you are clearly ill informed on Fullarton. And haven’t shown anything to prove “a ruck is his intended role”….

     

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    2 minutes ago, Bleasey as that said:

    There’s no debating our list is devoid of a genuine experienced mature ruckman. I could talk about that for days.

     

    But you are clearly ill informed on Fullarton. And haven’t shown anything to prove “a ruck is his intended role”….

    You are correct when we ran out of tall forwards in ‘22 & ‘23 with disastrous results Fullarton was bought in to hopefully provide some coverage as well as doing the JVR chop out ruck role. However, JVR is a far superior chop out but it’s robbing Peter to pay Paul as he’s not kicking goals and neither is Petty. The fact that the coaches refuse to play Fullarton means he is a bust, so we definitely need to pick up a ruckman in this years draft.

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    8 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

     

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    Haha yes well played 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

     

    I probably should’ve said - backup ruckman 😅

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    Bailey Laurie looked a class above today. I could see him pushing into the senior midfield next year. He is looking a lot stronger. He has made big improvements to his game, especially his repeat efforts.

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    1 minute ago, Bleasey as that said:

    Haha yes well played 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

     

    I probably should’ve said - backup ruckman 😅

    Is that what you trying to say? Then totes agree. 
     

    Fullarton goes alright around the ground don’t you think? He has good agility and uses this strength against bigger and stronger ruckman. Not sure he will make the grade at this stage. Good luck to the kid. 
     

    🤔

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    1 minute ago, KingDingAling said:

    Bailey Laurie looked a class above today. I could see him pushing into the senior midfield next year. He is looking a lot stronger. He has made big improvements to his game, especially his repeat efforts.

    With Woewodin seemingly injured should come in next week and given a 'Sparrow type' run of games. Confidence needs building at AFL level. 

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    53 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

    What's baffling is why you continue to keep picking at this scab. 

    We get it.  You don't agree with the decision to draft Kentfield. 

    No need to make the same post over and over again in multiple threads.

    Think I’ll trust Jason Taylor over Kozzyisalegend….

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    19 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

    Is that what you trying to say? Then totes agree. 
     

    Fullarton goes alright around the ground don’t you think? He has good agility and uses this strength against bigger and stronger ruckman. Not sure he will make the grade at this stage. Good luck to the kid. 
     

    🤔

    Yep agreed. I think there’s upside to pursuing with Fullarton. Noting his age and hasn’t played a heap of football (given his basketball talents).

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    45 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

    Bailey Laurie looked a class above today. I could see him pushing into the senior midfield next year. He is looking a lot stronger. He has made big improvements to his game, especially his repeat efforts.

    I agree, chance next week?

    Bowey & Sparrow have been very poor of late 

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    1 hour ago, KingDingAling said:

    Bailey Laurie looked a class above today. I could see him pushing into the senior midfield next year. He is looking a lot stronger. He has made big improvements to his game, especially his repeat efforts.

    They should give him a game next week, maybe rest Moniz-Wakefled.

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