On 14/04/2024 at 03:35, Tracca said:

I said in the pre season will verral was a spud and showed me nothing in the 3 games i saw live, even the first game this year i was so disappointed.

 

But yesterday he was fantastic and the week be fore he was building into this game. I am hoping he can take this confidence and run with it.

Disco and Sestan were fantastic, Hunters 2nd half was exceptional.

 

After missing half a year injured Verrall was very quickly playing solid VFL footy last year. Finding the ball and halving ruck contests despite low game time and clearly underdone fitness. Not sure which 3 games you saw but he showed more than enough for a first year rookie ruck.

Hunter exceptional? Probably just a pass mark in the second half for a player of his pedigree. Still huge concerns about his kicking and his ability to win the ball in congestion. 

  On 14/04/2024 at 02:20, Demonsterative said:

So am I to keep my opinion to myself? Or, share my opinions? 

Jefferson is on the end of some disrespectful comments and bullying IMO

 

I will try and explain it to you:

Your stated opinion is that others should not have an opinion. 

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:15, DeeSpencer said:

Either way, someone connected needs to ask the question.

Honestly a waste of carbon emissions moving 110kg down to Frankston to play 20 minutes at full forward. For the sake of the planet get the kid in local footy.

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Kyah_Farris-White

The kid has had 3 kicks in 11 VFL games. Clearly he is not playing big minutes but, seriously, what are we trying to achieve here?

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:45, poita said:

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Kyah_Farris-White

The kid has had 3 kicks in 11 VFL games. Clearly he is not playing big minutes but, seriously, what are we trying to achieve here?

Boots would be in good nick.

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:15, DeeSpencer said:

Either way, someone connected needs to ask the question.

Honestly a waste of carbon emissions moving 110kg down to Frankston to play 20 minutes at full forward. For the sake of the planet get the kid in local footy.

The genuine Casey VFL players who are missing out in a senior selection must watch in horror knowing they should be playing instead of a guy that has absolutely zero of what Football is.

The 50 he gave away was bizarre and shows his low footy IQ

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:45, poita said:

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Kyah_Farris-White

The kid has had 3 kicks in 11 VFL games. Clearly he is not playing big minutes but, seriously, what are we trying to achieve here?

He is a category B rookie, meaning he had not played Australian Rules football for at least 3 years before being signed. I think he only played until he was about 12 before following the bball pathway due to his height.

This is now his second year on an AFL list, similar to Jefferson he's had one true preseason.

So what are we trying to achieve? We are rolling the dice on a 206 cm athletic prospect to see if he can pick up AFL football as he develops his body.

We know tall players take longer. At 206 cm it's fair to expect him to take a while if at all.

Basically,given the rarity of height, it's a free hit to see if something comes of it. And if it doesn't we let him go.

 

On current situation, it doesn't seem like he is coming on or that the footy department have much faith in him. If that's correct then he'll be gone year end.

  On 14/04/2024 at 06:15, dazzledavey36 said:

The genuine Casey VFL players who are missing out in a senior selection must watch in horror knowing they should be playing instead of a guy that has absolutely zero of what Football is.

The 50 he gave away was bizarre and shows his low footy IQ

None of them are 206 cm though. Given his height and youth, he actually has more of a chance of making it in AFL football than gun Casey players who career journeymen and haven't made the AFL grade so far (statistically of course).

Edited April 14, 20241 yr by deanox

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:45, poita said:

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Kyah_Farris-White

The kid has had 3 kicks in 11 VFL games. Clearly he is not playing big minutes but, seriously, what are we trying to achieve here?

I’d rather the MFC/Casey provide opportunities to MFC listed players with a view to see if they will make the grade.

 

  On 14/04/2024 at 06:19, deanox said:

None of them are 206 cm though. Given his height and youth, he actually has more of a chance of making it in AFL football than gun Casey players who career journeymen and haven't made the AFL grade so far (statistically of course).

He'd struggle to get a kick in the Essendon District Football League at senior level.

He's not even a footballer. A guy that was plucked through basketball footage and a few athletic trial testing.

 

 

Edited April 14, 20241 yr by dazzledavey36

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:38, Bystander said:

I will try and explain it to you:

Your stated opinion is that others should not have an opinion. 

Thanks for your opinion Bystander. 
 

Respectfully tho, that is not what I said. 

  On 14/04/2024 at 06:29, dazzledavey36 said:

He'd struggle to get a kick in the Essendon District Football League at senior level.

He's not even a footballer. A guy that was plucked through basketball footage and a few athletic trial testing.

 

 

I don't disagree he isn't performing.

But there are only a few thousand people in Australia with that height.

So if you can somehow turn him into a below average footballer instead of a terrible footballer, then he gets a regular AFL game.

 

The AFL is definitely not the best footballers in the country. It is the best footballers of the population that is tall and strong enough to play.

  On 14/04/2024 at 06:15, dazzledavey36 said:

The genuine Casey VFL players who are missing out in a senior selection must watch in horror knowing they should be playing instead of a guy that has absolutely zero of what Football is.

The 50 he gave away was bizarre and shows his low footy IQ

Yes, I agree with you Dazzler. I hope Casey will give a few games to Noah Yze and Ricky Mentha. Both of these players trained with the club for a while during the Pre-season and Noah Yze was a stand out. 

  On 14/04/2024 at 04:47, dazzledavey36 said:

Another scintillating performance by Kyah Farris-White. Certainly putting in the consistency in terms of disposal numbers.

 

 

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:13, dazzledavey36 said:

He'd struggle to even play senior footy there and would end up in the reserves.. he's genuinely that bad.

I get your point mate...but nothing ventured nothing gained.

We've tried with him and Bradke before and so far haven't had a win.

Personally I would have put more eggs into the Irish experiment where we were once leaders and came up with some real gems. 

I have nothing against trying KFW... but I believe Bradke was showing more when delisted.

VFL app says Laurie had 20 tackles that has got to be some kind of record 

  On 14/04/2024 at 06:32, Demonsterative said:

Thanks for your opinion Bystander. 
 

Respectfully tho, that is not what I said. 

To quote you verbatim: "Leave the kid alone and keep your opinion to yourself."

  On 14/04/2024 at 05:45, poita said:

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/player/Kyah_Farris-White

The kid has had 3 kicks in 11 VFL games. Clearly he is not playing big minutes but, seriously, what are we trying to achieve here?

Yeah he needs to be playing full games at a suitable local level. That's how you develop. He's long odds to make it but at least he'd be a chance if he could play at the right level, get 40+ ruck contests a game and a bunch of marking contests too.

Right now it's like he's trying to learn a language and getting 1 word a week.

  On 14/04/2024 at 06:17, deanox said:

He is a category B rookie, meaning he had not played Australian Rules football for at least 3 years before being signed. I think he only played until he was about 12 before following the bball pathway due to his height.

This is now his second year on an AFL list, similar to Jefferson he's had one true preseason.

So what are we trying to achieve? We are rolling the dice on a 206 cm athletic prospect to see if he can pick up AFL football as he develops his body.

We know tall players take longer. At 206 cm it's fair to expect him to take a while if at all.

Basically,given the rarity of height, it's a free hit to see if something comes of it. And if it doesn't we let him go.

 

On current situation, it doesn't seem like he is coming on or that the footy department have much faith in him. If that's correct then he'll be gone year end.

Should head up to Darwin and play in the NTFL over the summer to get some games in.

  On 14/04/2024 at 08:25, Bystander said:

To quote you verbatim: "Leave the kid alone and keep your opinion to yourself."

Yep, in defence of Jeffo and the lack of respect, I asked for disrespectful opinions to kept to themselves. 
 

Read between the lines 🖕(literally and metaphorically) 😜

  On 14/04/2024 at 07:24, rjay said:

 

I get your point mate...but nothing ventured nothing gained.

We've tried with him and Bradke before and so far haven't had a win.

Personally I would have put more eggs into the Irish experiment where we were once leaders and came up with some real gems. 

I have no idea why considering we were the very first clubs ever in the AFL to pioneer the Irish experiment, we are realistically the only club now not willing to explore this as an option. 

  On 14/04/2024 at 08:33, dazzledavey36 said:

I have no idea why considering we were the very first clubs ever in the AFL to pioneer the Irish experiment, we are realistically the only club now not willing to explore this as an option. 

When was our last Irish recruit. Last one I remember was Tohill in about 1990.  I would think every other club has had at least one success or several (Cats) since   

  On 14/04/2024 at 08:40, spirit of norm smith said:

When was our last Irish recruit. Last one I remember was Tohill in about 1990.  I would think every other club has had at least one success or several (Cats) since   

Nick Walsh in 2002

  On 14/04/2024 at 08:42, dazzledavey36 said:

Nick Walsh in 2002

we have taken quite a few in the aflw though, so we must have at least some scouts out there

  On 14/04/2024 at 09:24, daisycutter said:

we have taken quite a few in the aflw though, so we must have at least some scouts out there

Goldy & Mackin integral players in our Premiership...

  On 14/04/2024 at 08:33, dazzledavey36 said:

I have no idea why considering we were the very first clubs ever in the AFL to pioneer the Irish experiment, we are realistically the only club now not willing to explore this as an option. 

Got me baffled 'daze'...

The mens & women's team should be working together on this.Use the resources at hand.

It took Gawn 4 or 5 years make it consistently at AFL level. Tom Hawkins similar.

Point is with younger players its more about the future than now or last year. A few thought Gawn was mediocre at best. You just have to trust the club and its processes. The players will get all they need from the club to eventually make the grade . If they don't the club will let them go.