Thugs and Saints

[Bitter but optimistic 21,586]

What did Banks get for that whack (above) on Rhyse-Jones ?

Anyone remember?

[Demon Dynasty 16,371]

15 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Embarrassed !! Are you kidding ? I was there & it was against Collingwood & I'm only sorry he didn’t clean up more of the snipers.

Yep the build up was pretty big.

Was expecting an MMA style blood bath but it was more like watching one of Big Bad Barry's attempts to enter the ring.  A number of glancing blows but not many connected.

The reality didn't quite hit the heights of the hype.

[Demon Dynasty 16,371]

2 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

What did Banks get for that whack (above) on Rhyse-Jones ?

Anyone remember?

A few sore knuckles?

[Demonstone 20,091]

24 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

What did Banks get for that whack (above) on Rhys-Jones ?

Anyone remember?

Three weeks!   

[dice 595]

22 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

What did Banks get for that whack (above) on Rhyse-Jones ?

Anyone remember?

3 weeks.

And as most of us know, the biggest thug of all Leigh Matthews got zero weeks for this:

 

[Monbon 1,665]

41 minutes ago, dice said:

3 weeks.

And as most of us know, the biggest thug of all Leigh Matthews got zero weeks for this:

 

He literally almost got away with murder, week after week. I'll always despise him and everything he stands for.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

26 minutes ago, Monbon said:

He literally almost got away with murder, week after week. I'll always despise him and everything he stands for.

I'm trying to work out what the literally qualifies here: the "almost", the "got away", the "murder" or the "week after week". Or perhaps "literally" is (ironically, literally) not the correct word. 🙂

[hemingway 7,608]

It’s interesting looking back on these incidents. I enjoy listening to the commentary more than the incidents. 
Jack Edwards, Peter McKenna etc. Looking back we remember the king hits etc but also what went on as part of general play that was accepted and did not involve reports. The head high punches, elbows, and shirt fronts that went on in general play. Players softened one another up week in week out. There were always players that escaped being targeted. As a kid I remember John Peck the Hawks full forward would soften up every opponent with the exception of Tassie Johnson and Wes Lofts because they were two full backs that were not to be trifled with. There was almost a mutual respect between Peck and these two. Tassie would be remembered as a fair player but he had the cold hard stare of an executioner. 

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[Monbon 1,665]

52 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I'm trying to work out what the literally qualifies here: the "almost", the "got away", the "murder" or the "week after week". Or perhaps "literally" is (ironically, literally) not the correct word. 🙂

I've got a really bad cold - I've checked for Covid till the cows come home and it ain't - and my wife who has about four degrees - north south east and west, all covered - does semantics wid me, just a peasant, all the time. Not to mention we've both retired and now give each other ruggery 24 hours a day...Woe is me.

So, please, when it comes to Lethal Leigh, no semantics please...per favore, bitte....

[Monbon 1,665]

41 minutes ago, hemingway said:

It’s interesting looking back on these incidents. I enjoy listening to the commentary more than the incidents. 
Jack Edwards, Peter McKenna etc. Looking back we remember the king hits etc but also what went on as part of general play that was accepted and did not involve reports. The head high punches, elbows, and shirt fronts that went on in general play. Players softened one another up week in week out. There were always players that escaped being targeted. As a kid I remember John Peck the Hawks full forward would soften up every opponent with the exception of Tassie Johnson and Wes Lofts because they were two full backs that were not to be trifled with. There was almost a mutual respect between Peck and these two. Tassie would be remembered as a fair player but he had the cold hard stare of an executioner. 

He was too talented as a footballer to just be another executioner...plenty of them in his day...

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

8 minutes ago, Monbon said:

I've got a really bad cold - I've checked for Covid till the cows come home and it ain't - and my wife who has about four degrees - north south east and west, all covered - does semantics wid me, just a peasant, all the time. Not to mention we've both retired and now give each other ruggery 24 hours a day...Woe is me.

So, please, when it comes to Lethal Leigh, no semantics please...per favore, bitte....

Get well soon, Monbon.

[John Crow Batty 8,377]

I recall reading that Leigh Matthews admitting he never got into a fight outside of football in his life. We must remember that players with certain abilities were encouraged to be thugs by coaches and the games culture. Thuggery has through footballs history until recently has been a core tactic of the game. A throwback to aggressive zero sum what ever it takes to win Anglocentric colonial/settler culture. It is what it is and now only legal implications not player welfare keep egregious brutality in check.

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[daisycutter 28,728]

54 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

I recall reading that Leigh Matthews admitting he never got into a fight outside of football in his life. We must remember that players with certain abilities were encouraged to be thugs by coaches and the games culture. Thuggery has through footballs history until recently has been a core tactic of the game. A throwback to aggressive zero sum what ever it takes to win Anglocentric colonial/settler culture. It is what it is and now only legal implications not player welfare keep egregious brutality in check.

"what ever it takes to win Anglocentric colonial/settler culture"   puleeze ... get your hand off it

what would you say to the russians, germans, romans, mongols, japanese or the ottomans?

[drysdale demon 4,352]

1 hour ago, John Crow Batty said:

I recall reading that Leigh Matthews admitting he never got into a fight outside of football in his life. We must remember that players with certain abilities were encouraged to be thugs by coaches and the games culture. Thuggery has through footballs history until recently has been a core tactic of the game. A throwback to aggressive zero sum what ever it takes to win Anglocentric colonial/settler culture. It is what it is and now only legal implications not player welfare keep egregious brutality in check.

Don't think he got into a fight on the footy ground either, just belted people from behind.

[Monbon 1,665]

34 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

"what ever it takes to win Anglocentric colonial/settler culture"   puleeze ... get your hand off it

what would you say to the russians, germans, romans, mongols, japanese or the ottomans?

Oh ppllllleeeaaaassseeeee! This is not an 'a mano' job, young man. JCB is describing OUR 'footy culture' as it was in Lethal's time: what does 'Anglocentric colonial/settler culture' have to do with the Japanese, just for starters. Ottomans???? 'russians, germans, romans, mongols', that's a long list of irrelevancies, my friend

AS dey might say in Ireland, I didn't even know dey played footy there!!!.🤣

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[daisycutter 28,728]

57 minutes ago, Monbon said:

Oh ppllllleeeaaaassseeeee! This is not an 'a mano' job, young man. JCB is describing OUR 'footy culture' as it was in Lethal's time: what does 'Anglocentric colonial/settler culture' have to do with the Japanese, just for starters. Ottomans???? 'russians, germans, romans, mongols', that's a long list of irrelevancies, my friend

AS dey might say in Ireland, I didn't even know dey played footy there!!!.🤣

i understand monbon ... sometimes your brain just doesn't function well 🤣 get better soon

[Monbon 1,665]

22 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i understand monbon ... sometimes your brain just doesn't function well 🤣 get better soon

No, no, it's not my brain function - that's been zero for years. However, I have checked Wikipedia and, yes, it confirmed that they do not nor ever have played AFL footy in the countries you mentioned. Tru Dinks!!! And, what's more, Wikipedia is AWAYS right: it has, like the BBC now, independent FACT CHECKERS.🤩😎🥰

 

2 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

 

 

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[Great Northern Summer 692]

9 hours ago, Monbon said:

'Garfield"? He was a squeaky clean cricketer...

Garfield is Gary Ayres. His other nickname :-)

[Demonstone 20,091]

7 minutes ago, Glorious Day said:

Garfield is Gary Ayres. His other nickname :-)

His best known nickname of course was 'Conan'.  His inclusion in the Thugs side was a surprise to me.

[Go the Biff 3,212]

1 minute ago, Demonstone said:

His best known nickname of course was 'Conan'.  His inclusion in the Thugs side was a surprise to me.

Shouldn't be on that list.  Bloke was a star and played fair. Conan was his in club nickname as I recall. 

[Monbon 1,665]

38 minutes ago, Monbon said:

No, no, it's not my brain function - that's been zero for years. However, I have checked Wikipedia and, yes, it confirmed that they do not nor ever have played AFL footy in the countries you mentioned. Tru Dinks!!! And, what's more, Wikipedia is AWAYS right: it has, like the BBC now, independent FACT CHECKERS.🤩😎🥰

 

 

And, Daisycutter, I feel so sorry for John Crow Batty because you have labelled him an Anglophobe. How do you know he is not directly descended from Sassenachs?  Which, in itself, is a quandary, because if he was a Sassenach then he may well be an Angle Phobe, because the Sassenachs was the Scottish term for Poms, i.e. Saxons. Therefore, if he was descended just from Angles, the other German tribe - which it delights me to say was what England was named after, ha ha, just as France was named after another German Tribe - the Franks, well, ya gotta get some pleasures in life as a German immigrant,  then he wouldn't by definition be an Anglophobe. See how complicated all this can get?????😋😍😎

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[daisycutter 28,728]

32 minutes ago, Monbon said:

No, no, it's not my brain function - that's been zero for years. However, I have checked Wikipedia and, yes, it confirmed that they do not nor ever have played AFL footy in the countries you mentioned. Tru Dinks!!! And, what's more, Wikipedia is AWAYS right: it has, like the BBC now, independent FACT CHECKERS.🤩😎🥰

 

 

if you read his post you will see he was talking about a "win at all costs" culture specifically using violence.

he gratuitously introduced british colonial culture into the discussion for some strange reason.

I merely pointed out many other cultures who employed win at all costs and violence at times in the past

it's not that hard to understand ... even for you

[Monbon 1,665]

4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

 

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Edited June 9, 2023 by Monbon

[Monbon 1,665]

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

if you read his post you will see he was talking about a "win at all costs" culture specifically using violence.

he gratuitously introduced british colonial culture into the discussion for some strange reason.

I merely pointed out many other cultures who employed win at all costs and violence at times in the past

it's not that hard to understand ... even for you

Nah - he was talking about the culture/nation which produced AFL footy.

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[Monbon 1,665]

43 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

 

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