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Kieren from Canberra
Kieren from Canberra
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5 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

The filth are a good team, no doubt. They have been the best team of the year to date (so were we this time last year).

I just think that come finals when wins mean the most and fear of losing is all the more powerful, they'll once again be found wanting.

 

Agree with all of the above.

I actually think there is a similarity to our 2022 season, in that for the first half of last year teasm didnt think they could beat our defence - or us - and came into games on the psycological back foot.

Teams come into games against the Pies and even if in front at 3 quarter time belive the Pies wil still roll over them. Becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. But a couple of close losses will dint that aura.

And lets not forget, in the close games that really mattered last year - their firts final against the cats and their prelim against the Swans - they lost both.

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    39 minutes ago, binman said:

    Is that what you were saying about us this time last year OD?

    I cannot remember binman ( ageing process is tramping all over me). Seriously I don't think I was with those predicting another flag in 2022 or talking about a dynasty. Perhaps agreeing with you there have been a lot of May premiers over the years. In addition to injuries and lack of form eg. Kossie has been poor since being suspended. I think we are now too predictable. I will be there tomorrow but I have low expectations. 

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    One way or another... it will be an interesting discussion at the end of KB proceedings. 

    God help the King ( actually...couldn't give a rats, bollocks to those inbreds )

    God help us.... yes ....Please  😉👍

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    6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    One way or another... it will be an interesting discussion at the end of KB proceedings. 

    God help the King ( actually...couldn't give a rats, bollocks to those inbreds )

    God help us.... yes ....Please  😉👍

    If we go 4-4 over the next 8 rounds, get Petty and Oliver back, have Salem coming into some form and aren't carrying injuries then look out. I don't care where those 4 wins come from. Win the last 5 against slightly softer opposition and we'll have our 16 wins and a likely top 4 spot. Hold the faith Demonlanders, we've got this.

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    We have a chance to get back to our 2021 best imv and potentially make a PF but Goody has to make a few hard calls in the next few weeks and come out of the buy with a relatively settled line up.

    There's been a few nice additions to the team since that season.  Namely McVee, Chandler and Hunter.

    Personally i don't think we can run with all three.

    With the return of Salem i can't see how we can keep all three of Gus, Hunter and him in the side.  One of them has to make way imv.

    2021 saw Gus on the non-Langdon wing.  Would like to see Gus trialled here this week with Hunter out.

    I love what McVee has brought so far, but compared to our best 2021 flag team, his inclusion means that Petty is pushed out to make way.  This means Petty plays as a forward but also results in Lever taking the 2nd oppo TF which takes away our best intercept defender.  Places additional pressure on May as he's getting less chop out spoils from Lever and Lever grabbing less marks.  The ball's hitting the deck more often or getting pinned inside 50 at ground level more often.

    Regardless it has to be one of McVee or Bowey if Petty/Disco are played in defence in order to free Lever.  You can't have both.

    If Goody insists on playing Petty forward then IMV Disco is a must addition to free up Lever.  If the FD doesn't believe Disco is ready, then they need to send Petty back again.

    The other two missing cogs....

    Petty back = BBB in

    Macca & JVR to fight it out for the 2nd KF role.

    We also only ran with one crumbing small forward in Kozzy meaning we had an extra rolling through the middle and pushing forward....Harmes.

    Chandler out for Harmes.

    I'm not saying any of the above is the panacea but if the bulk of the above are as good or better (in terms of form) as they were in 2021.... why wouldn't you go back to the very best combo we've had in the last 3 seasons?

    At least trial it for 4 to 5 matches anyway.  See if the team improves/ settles.  Then some minor fine tuning from there.

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    4 hours ago, binman said:

    Not being facetious, but have you watched their games this season? 

    They have not played every game at finals like pressure. Nowhere near it, as evidenced by the fact that they are currently 8th for average contested possession per game (we are 2nd behind the Saints). 

    I have watched all of their games and would argue they were only fully wound up against the Cats, Port, Tigers and the Bombers (and then only in the last q). Their pressure was average in their wins against  the Saints, Crows, Giants and Blues.

    Of course I rate the Pies. But I also think they are well and truly overrated. 

    In my opinion, the probability of us winning the flag is higher than the Pies winning it. In fact, i think the Lions are a better chance of wining the falg than the Pies. 
     

    I hope your right.

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    7 minutes ago, binman said:

    Me too.

    Mate... we're all there ...

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    3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

    Please don't think me rude,may i ask how long you've followed our beloved team ?

    Me..  since feb 1965...  ive enjoyed 1.......ÒNE  Premiership.   Unfortunately remember decades of being irrelevant.  Suffered  through 2 inglorious decapitations 88 and 2000.

    I'm rather keen on the idea of a flag...   not so much the nice participatory ribbon.

    Cheers

    That is exactly my timeline too! And also my wish, just want to see one in the flesh

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    9 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

    That is exactly my timeline too! And also my wish, just want to see one in the flesh

    Yes....in the flesh...   👍

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    7 hours ago, old dee said:

    I don't rate us, we had the near perfect season in 2021. Game plan had not been worked out, a number of players played together at their peak and almost no injuries. Hopefully I will be proved wrong but the next 3 matches will show if we are genuine GF participants. At present we look like the Dogs won the flag when everything fell into place and then faded to makeing  up the numbers in September. 

    Why do you use the near perfect 2021 season as some sort of crutch for your pessimism?

    Yes, we were brilliant in 2021. That is something to be celebrated. 

    For a side that you believe has been “worked out” since then, we’re doing pretty well to be 23-11 since then. Do you think we’d be 34-0 if we hadn’t been “worked out”?

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    7 hours ago, old dee said:

    I don't rate us, we had the near perfect season in 2021. Game plan had not been worked out, a number of players played together at their peak and almost no injuries. Hopefully I will be proved wrong but the next 3 matches will show if we are genuine GF participants. At present we look like the Dogs won the flag when everything fell into place and then faded to makeing  up the numbers in September. 

    If it all just fell into place for us in 2021 then thank the lord, he's truly watching over us.

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    7 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

    Why do people keep comparing us to the Dogs of 16? Because they want us to fail and say I told you so?

    In the two years after their flag the Dogs finished 10th in 2017 and 13th in 2018. They weren't even making up the numbers.

    We went 16-6 to finish second in 2022 and our exit was disappointing yes, there were some reasons for that. This year we've been in the 8 at the end of every round and it remains to be seen where we finish. I do agree that the next three games are huge, I'd be happy with a 2-1 record.

    I don't know Zeph, I really have no fricken idea. The 21 Dees was a stronger list than the 16 Dogs, I don't think there were many thinking they would go back to back let alone win the first 10 of the next season.

    It is idiotic, moronic and preposterous to think there is a connection and you'd have to be a fool and a communist to make one.

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    11 minutes ago, layzie said:

    I don't know Zeph, I really have no fricken idea. The 21 Dees was a stronger list than the 16 Dogs, I don't think there were many thinking they would go back to back let alone win the first 10 of the next season.

    It is idiotic, moronic and preposterous to think there is a connection and you'd have to be a fool and a communist to make one.

    I hate people like you who keep your true feelings to yourself. Only joking, love it.

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    On 5/23/2023 at 10:32 PM, JimmyGadson said:

    One flag at the G this decade is all I ask. Please. 

    I think that's all most of us want Jimmy.

     

    ...well almost.  I think if I feel it that once,  I'll want it again, but that one with our fellow Demon family and faithful would be magnificent.  Thankfully listening to Max, I know him and I'll bet the rest of the team really want it too.

    I also want it to be a proper daylight flag before the AFL caves to the TV gods again and turn it into some kind of second rate entertainment spectacle for their advertising masters.

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    4 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    If we go 4-4 over the next 8 rounds, get Petty and Oliver back, have Salem coming into some form and aren't carrying injuries then look out. I don't care where those 4 wins come from. Win the last 5 against slightly softer opposition and we'll have our 16 wins and a likely top 4 spot. Hold the faith Demonlanders, we've got this.

    I’m pretty confident we’ll be 2 from 2 in a fortnight, then it’s 2 from 6, top 4 here we come baby! 

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    2 hours ago, layzie said:

    If it all just fell into place for us in 2021 then thank the lord, he's truly watching over us.

    Was

     

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    2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    I think that's all most of us want Jimmy.

     

    ...well almost.  I think if I feel it that once,  I'll want it again, but that one with our fellow Demon family and faithful would be magnificent.  Thankfully listening to Max, I know him and I'll bet the rest of the team really want it too.

    I also want it to be a proper daylight flag before the AFL caves to the TV gods again and turn it into some kind of second rate entertainment spectacle for their advertising masters.

    That will mean this year RG perhaps next and then a night GF. 

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    On 5/24/2023 at 1:33 PM, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

    Were they on the MCG?

    Wait until someone beats us on the G.

    Didn't have to wait long

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    19 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

    Why do you use the near perfect 2021 season as some sort of crutch for your pessimism?

    Yes, we were brilliant in 2021. That is something to be celebrated. 

    For a side that you believe has been “worked out” since then, we’re doing pretty well to be 23-11 since then. Do you think we’d be 34-0 if we hadn’t been “worked out”?

    I think your line is coming unstuck TU. We are well and truely worked out. If the blues kick straight next week they will win easy. 

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    33 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

    Trust in this team? 
    you have got to be joking.

    Yeah the trust in the team has evaporated 

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    32 minutes ago, old dee said:

    I think your line is coming unstuck TU. We are well and truely worked out.

    Yep.  All the coaches know how to beat us

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