NON-MFC: Round 20, 2022

[Sir Why You Little 37,242]

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

They certainly don't like playing at the G

 

Is that 15 in a row the've lost?

2014

[Sir Why You Little 37,242]

14 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Would that be the non call of rebouncing the ball that went about 5 meters out of the centre circle. #23 is a shockingly bad umpire.

No. Richmond’s first goal. Absolute disgraceful decision 

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,304]

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

Agreed. Zorko is the worst captain in the league and yes I am including Heppell in that. He is a hot head and thinks of himself. Argues with the umps and has personal grudge matches a lot. 

the Sooner McCluggage is made captain the better for them

Zeibell says hi ...

[Jaded No More 68,974]

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Feels like Sydney with their easy fixture are our main competitor for top 2.

Yep. A percentage booster against North could see them overtake us. They are a game behind however, so win all 3 and we cannot be overtaken. Lose one and it comes down to percentage. 

[monoccular 17,607]

3 hours ago, BDA said:

got an armchair ride to the prelim at the Gabba during covid impacted 2020 and still couldn't get the job done. Serial chokers in the big games

 

3 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Who chokes more though... Geelong, Brisbane or Port??? 🤔

Yet Fagan hasn’t felt the blowtorch…. it took years for Cameron at GW$ to be scruitinsed,  just like Fagan.

[DubDee 26,191]

39 minutes ago, Winners at last said:

Zeibell says hi ...

I’d take Zeibell any day over Zorko or Heppell. Puts his head over it and not a whiner

[dees189227 12,441]

Essendon won and I do not really care or annoyed they did.

Ugh now it's confirmed the pies will play finals it makes me shudder. We really need to beat them on friday and keep them away form the top 4. I was hoping they'd have a few more years of pain. 

 

[jnrmac 20,207]

55 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

2014

That was their last win at the G. They have lost 15 since I believe

[Sir Why You Little 37,242]

9 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

That was their last win at the G. They have lost 15 since I believe

Marvellous. I knew the year. That is a beautiful statistic 

May it continue 

I knew they would choke, i said it earlier in the year

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,304]

13 hours ago, jnrmac said:

They certainly don't like playing at the G

 

Is that 15 in a row the've lost?

I (sadly) remember when the Dees had a similarly bad record at Doglands.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,065]

13 hours ago, Jibroni said:

If we win all 3 it looks like our opponent will come down to who wins the Sydney v Pies game at the SCG.

But a lot still to play out.

 

 

If that scenario played out, that would be two very tough opponents to open the finals series given how much grief those two sides have given us in the Goodwin era.

 

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,464]

So for all of Brisbane’s dominance over the likes of North and the Eagles, they show again why they are overrated 

2021
QF Dees beat Lions
SF Dogs beat Lions

2020
QF Lions beat Tigers 
PF Cats beat Lions

2019 
QF Tigers beat Lions
SF GWS beat Lions

That’s 1 out of 6 finals with Fagan as coach and large majority of current list.

Then this year they’ve lost to
Cats
Hawks
Freo
Dees
Bombers
Only beat Pies by 7 and Giants by 14. 
Yes they best Sydney earlier in the year but the Swans are now in red hot form.

Could be looking at an early exit from this years finals, but they’ll still be everyone’s 2nd team.

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,065]

Re: people's refusal to acknowledge Collingwood as a genuine contender, what would be the difference between Richmond's 2017 flag and a potential 2022 flag win by Collingwood?

Richmond made finals in 2013, 2014, 2015 but then had a year full of turmoil in 2016 finishing with only 8 wins and a percentage of 78. Then they obviously got it all together in 2017.

Collingwood made the finals in 2018, 2019 and 2020 but then also had a year full of turmoil in 2021 finishing with only 6 wins but a better percentage of 86 compared to Richmond's 2016 percentage of 78.

Collingwood are first on my list of teams I don't want to win the flag, but I can unfortunately see them as a right in the thick of the race.

 

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Everyones second team?

Ive never had one.  Why bother.

[Accepting Mediocrity 1,418]

55 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Re: people's refusal to acknowledge Collingwood as a genuine contender, what would be the difference between Richmond's 2017 flag and a potential 2022 flag win by Collingwood?

Richmond 2017 and Collingwood 2022 are polar opposites. Richmond went 0-3 in games decided by less than a goal that year, and finished the season with the 4th best percentage. They also had genuine star power and AA level talent in every part of the ground. And they had Dusty.

Collingwood are a mile off. They've had unprecedented levels of luck in close games (statistically speaking, close games are essentially a coin flip). That might yet enable them to sneak into a top 4 spot, but I just don't see them having the talent to mix it with the best teams in September.

[Demonland 73,266]

18 hours ago, binman said:

Agree.

But their main issue is their woeful defence.

Old school sysyem thst just doesn't cut it - as evidenced by how many big scores they've give up.

Cost them this game as they simply couldn't stop the tiger's momentum 

Hi Mal Michael

 

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4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

If that scenario played out, that would be two very tough opponents to open the finals series given how much grief those two sides have given us in the Goodwin era.

 

Friday nights game will tell us alot about both sides.  This is a must win for Melbourne. If we are going B2B this where our campaign starts with a finals size crowd and atmosphere. Its going to be huge.

[layzie 34,148]

3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

 

Collingwood are first on my list of teams I don't want to win the flag, but I can unfortunately see them as a right in the thick of the race.

 

Me too. I can see them falling off next year when everyone has film on them and some of their older guys get a little older but for now this is their shot and they are very much in it.