The very, very contentious 50 for Dissent Rule

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3 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

 

I agree with you about the AFL. They adopt the Donald Trump (ScoMo?) approach. The only time the AFL will admit a mistake is when it's too late to have any effect (as with Adam Goodes).

 

As opposed to the Biden (Albo?) approach.
Neither of whom know WTF is going on.
But the clueless will vote for them regardless.

Edited May 14, 2022 by Fork 'em

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McGovern not only waving his arms but verbally berating the umpire tonight for several seconds going unpenalised shows this “rule” up for the absolute farce that it is.
Did the umpire not know of the rule through incompetence,  is he so visually and audibly impaired that he didn’t notice or was he just to gutless to hand Melbourne a goal in front or a feral WCE crowd?

Looking forward to the AFL explanation 🙄  

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Relaxing the 'dissent' rule is a good thing https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-softens-stance-on-dissent-penalties-as-crackdown-has-desired-effect-20220606-p5arjr.html

But what are they thinking keeping it a secret:  "...but at the meeting, umpires were also told that this change would not be communicated to players, clubs or fans".

That is guaranteed to reduce AFL's credibility, if that was possible and create even more confusion for everyone on and off the field, when interpretation changes.

The AFL couldn't simply admit the rule wasn't working.  Instead they come up with some weasel-words:  "...the  AFL said it had recalibrated dissent and fine-tuned permissible behaviour to reach a common-sense level after the strict early-season crackdown."

I still can't get over being expected to play a so called professional sport where some rules are kept secret.

As an aside, it looks like 'common sense' is the flavour of the month!!!  A shame they didn't apply it to themselves!

Edited June 6, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

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It’s either a rule or it’s not 

Now we seem to have the makings of Russian roulette - sometimes it’s going to be paid sometimes not

Common sense eh - for something that’s supposed to be common it’s a rare commodity 

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2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Relaxing the 'dissent' rule is a good thing https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-softens-stance-on-dissent-penalties-as-crackdown-has-desired-effect-20220606-p5arjr.html

But what are they thinking keeping it a secret:  "...but at the meeting, umpires were also told that this change would not be communicated to players, clubs or fans".

That is guaranteed to reduce AFL's credibility, if that was possible and create even more confusion for everyone on and off the field, when interpretation changes.

The AFL couldn't simply admit the rule wasn't working.  Instead they come up with some weasel-words:  "...the  AFL said it had recalibrated dissent and fine-tuned permissible behaviour to reach a common-sense level after the strict early-season crackdown."

I still can't get over being expected to play a so called professional sport where some rules are kept secret.

As an aside, it looks like 'common sense' is the flavour of the month!!!  A shame they didn't apply it to themselves!

Are there any texts between AFL Commissioners, admitting the game is being ruined by the Administration they have employed?

It could be suggested by many observers and participants that this is an “immature and appalling way” to run one of the major sports in the country.

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fwiw Brad Scott no longer has umpiring in his remit:  "Lisa Lawry has been appointed to the newly created position of General Manager Umpiring within the Football Operations Department."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/768093/afl-football-department-appoints-general-manager-umpiring

Maybe this reflects the fiasco of Scott's introduction of the new 50m rules for 'dissent' and 'holding up play'.  The former has been (secretly) modified and the latter seems to have completely disappeared. 

Scott confounded everyone with these rules then tried to dig himself out of the hole by having a '5 bob each way' saying the umpires should enforce the rules but it was their discretion to decide dissent. 

Edited June 6, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

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That takes the cake. You change the rules and you don't tell the players!!   Is it April 1?

So a player notes other players are not being pinged for putting their arms out and so does so himself, but foolishly lets his arms drop before raising them again and gets pinged and has no idea why.    I pity the players and the umpires having to deal with the nonsense that comes from AFL HQ.

The AFL is run by a bunch of clowns.  

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1 hour ago, sue said:

That takes the cake. You change the rules and you don't tell the players!!   Is it April 1?

So a player notes other players are not being pinged for putting their arms out and so does so himself, but foolishly lets his arms drop before raising them again and gets pinged and has no idea why.    I pity the players and the umpires having to deal with the nonsense that comes from AFL HQ.

The AFL is run by a bunch of clowns.  

hey, steady om.  clowns aren't that bad