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    Got distracted last night and completely forgot about this.

    Considering the amount of discussion on Demonland a few weeks ago about the voting process and the pros/cons of various candidates I thought there might be something here. Would be interested to know how Peter Lawrence went.

    Don't think the club went out of its way to let people know it was on though. Think there was the initial email to say it was on a few weeks back, and then an email with the Zoom link from yesterday. And apart from the voting materials I got in the mail, I don't think there's been anything else - no socials etc from what I could see.

    That said, there's a brief article in The Age about the AGM.  Nothing groundbreaking though (e.g. no update about new home base). It's mainly about the club standing by Goodwin,  and a lack of surprise that other teams are interested in getting Daisy Pearce (but they shouldn't be retiring her too early).

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/more-support-for-goodwin-pert-s-advice-for-pearce-20220302-p5a14d.html

     

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    With no covid restrictions any reason this was zoom only with no live audience?  The BnF had an audience so can't see why members couldn't go to the AGM. 

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      On 02/03/2022 at 21:50, Lucifers Hero said:

    With no covid restrictions any reason this was zoom only with no live audience?  The BnF had an audience so can't see why members couldn't go to the AGM. 

    Curious. 

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      On 02/03/2022 at 21:50, Lucifers Hero said:

    With no covid restrictions any reason this was zoom only with no live audience?  The BnF had an audience so can't see why members couldn't go to the AGM. 

    Better control when a zoom meeting. Can edit out questions you don't like  or am I just cynical? Who won board seats ? Nothing on MFC site. Talk about mushrooms?

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      On 02/03/2022 at 21:40, peasant said:

     

    Considering the amount of discussion on Demonland a few weeks ago about the voting process and the pros/cons of various candidates I thought there might be something here. Would be interested to know how Peter Lawrence went.

     

     

    All 3 current Directors were returned overwhelmingly with 85%  plus of votes,  Peter Lawrence came 4th with 29%.

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:15, Demon17 said:

    All 3 current Directors were returned overwhelmingly with 85%  plus of votes,  Peter Lawrence came 4th with 29%.

    Did you watch the meeting D17?

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      On 02/03/2022 at 10:25, Matt Demon said:

    Any news from the AGM? 

    My key takes:

    Ballot:  No change to Board composition

    Strong position on and off the field, including financials

    Tracking very well against Strategic Plan, but can’t rest on laurels 

    Emphatic support for Goodwin

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:11, old dee said:

    Better control when a zoom meeting. Can edit out questions you don't like  or am I just cynical? Who won board seats ? Nothing on MFC site. Talk about mushrooms?

    The lack of transparency is disappointing and perhaps a concern. 

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:11, old dee said:

    Better control when a zoom meeting. Can edit out questions you don't like  or am I just cynical? Who won board seats ? Nothing on MFC site. Talk about mushrooms?

    How do you 'edit out' questions in a live zoom OD?

    MFC web & digi team don't work 24 hours a day you may be surprised to hear. Given the AGM was last night, maybe give them at least until COB today to throw something together.

    Bit of MFCSS coming out in all this I reckon. Just won a flag, financials are great, board is stable, let's not create conspiracies that are not based in fact, we already have certain threads for that.

     

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:24, Deeoldfart said:

     

    My key takes:

    Ballot:  No change to Board composition

    Strong position on and off the field, including financials

    Tracking very well against Strategic Plan, but can’t rest on laurels 

    Emphatic support for Goodwin

    Any progress update about the home base?

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:11, old dee said:

    Better control when a zoom meeting. Can edit out questions you don't like  or am I just cynical? Who won board seats ? Nothing on MFC site. Talk about mushrooms?

    You can't edit live Zoom OD.

    *Edit @Lord Nev beat me to it.

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:15, Demon17 said:

    All 3 current Directors were returned overwhelmingly with 85%  plus of votes,  Peter Lawrence came 4th with 29%.

    29% for a candidate not supported by the Board is a high number. I assume he's disappointed not to have been elected, but Lawrence should be pleased to have received this level of member support.

    Disclosure: I voted for the incumbents.

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:25, hemingway said:

    The lack of transparency is disappointing and perhaps a concern. 

    What transparency is lacking in your opinion H? Personally, I haven't found this election much different to the majority of past ones (excluding times of extreme turmoil), but maybe I'm not recalling properly.

    IMO, I believe some are confusing 'transparency' for 'negative interest' given all of our experiences of AGMs have generally been wanting to ask tough questions due to under performance.

     

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:47, Lord Nev said:

    What transparency is lacking in your opinion H? Personally, I haven't found this election much different to the majority of past ones (excluding times of extreme turmoil), but maybe I'm not recalling properly.

    IMO, I believe some are confusing 'transparency' for 'negative interest' given all of our experiences of AGMs have generally been wanting to ask tough questions due to under performance.

     

    Fair comments Lord.  And your comments about past experiences vis a vis lack of tough questions is valid. 

    Perhaps my observation of lack of transparency is superficial. It was a quick response. 

    My observation simply piggybacked Lucifers comment about (why) attendance at B&F and not AGM.  In addition,  when there were challenges to the Board. 

    Not such a good look I would have thought and suggests the existing Board trying to control the agenda and avoid questions and conflicts. 

    I would have thought that after a flag and an incredible amount of goodwill, an open AGM would have been appropriate.  Surely nothing to be afraid of. The existing President and Board should be out there and proud. 

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      On 02/03/2022 at 23:18, hemingway said:

    Fair comments Lord.  And your comments about past experiences vis a vis lack of tough questions is valid. 

    Perhaps my observation of lack of transparency is superficial. It was a quick response. 

    My observation simply piggybacked Lucifers comment about (why) attendance at B&F and not AGM.  In addition,  when there were challenges to the Board. 

    Not such a good look I would have thought and suggests the existing Board trying to control the agenda and avoid questions and conflicts. 

    I would have thought that after a flag and an incredible amount of goodwill, an open AGM would have been appropriate.  Surely nothing to be afraid of. The existing President and Board should be out there and proud. 

    Definitely with you that an in-person AGM would have been much preferable. I wonder if the proximity to the season had an impact on the decision to not having a crowd? Would be pretty easy to have COVID passed on to the playing group only a short time before round 1, so I can only guess that may have played a part.

    The Bluey was back in December, so while not ideal, if there had been an infection there would have been plenty of time to have it pass as well as plenty of opportunity to isolate players and/or staff. At this stage of the preparations it's far more complex and damaging.

    In a COVID numbers context, 17 December was pre-Omicron and there were only 1,500 new cases that day as opposed to 7,100 yesterday. I think it's probably all just an abundance of caution.

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:35, Lord Nev said:

    How do you 'edit out' questions in a live zoom OD?

    MFC web & digi team don't work 24 hours a day you may be surprised to hear. Given the AGM was last night, maybe give them at least until COB today to throw something together.

    Bit of MFCSS coming out in all this I reckon. Just won a flag, financials are great, board is stable, let's not create conspiracies that are not based in fact, we already have certain threads for that.

    Thanks.  Not being a zoom user I wasn't aware it was of its capabilities.

    Nonetheless, given that the recent fan Forum was neither zoom nor live with members it does leave one wondering about level of member involvement or access to the senior parts of our club.

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:38, BDA said:

    Any progress update about the home base?

    Nothing of substance mate.

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      On 02/03/2022 at 23:25, Lord Nev said:

    Definitely with you that an in-person AGM would have been much preferable. I wonder if the proximity to the season had an impact on the decision to not having a crowd? Would be pretty easy to have COVID passed on to the playing group only a short time before round 1, so I can only guess that may have played a part.

    Football staff don't usually attend the AGM do they?  Did any of them participate in the AGM last night?

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      On 02/03/2022 at 23:27, Lucifers Hero said:

    Thanks.  Not being a zoom user I wasn't aware it was of its capabilities.

    Nonetheless, given that the recent fan Forum was neither zoom nor live with members it does leave one wondering about level of member involvement or access to the senior parts of our club.

    I didn't tune in, so can't answer, but I wonder if someone else who sat in on it can let us know if they had a question time?

     

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      On 02/03/2022 at 23:30, Lucifers Hero said:

    Football staff don't usually attend the AGM do they?  Did any of them participate in the AGM last night?

    They all have contact though. Pretty easy for example for someone to pass to Pert, who then has a meeting with Goody, who then goes and hugs the players...

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      On 02/03/2022 at 22:15, Demon17 said:

    All 3 current Directors were returned overwhelmingly with 85%  plus of votes,  Peter Lawrence came 4th with 29%.

    An you numbers given?

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