2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Yes it is….for Weid 😎

“Yes it is….for Weid 😎 ”

Are you suggesting he does the full Mason Cox trick and wear sunnies 😎?  Would that make all the difference? 🧐

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am not panicking. But to lose 3 times in a row the exact same way tells me the system is not working with the available personel

Respect your opinion, but you don't have all the information around the current situation.

Happy to respect/trust the person/team that does have most of the information.

 

14 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Different personnel doesn't mean new game plan, in fact, I would argue it means quite the opposite.

Clearly we haven't executed the game plan well for most of the year, but it's safe to assume we haven't changed much about it since last year. So what parts of our premiership winning game plan do you suggest we change?

Last year we had players running in 2-3’s

We had forwards making their own space

hasn’t happened this year so far

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Last year we had players running in 2-3’s

We had forwards making their own space

hasn’t happened this year so far

So this year they implemented a change to the game plan to tell forwards to crowd together and everyone to run by themselves?

Now reported out 3-5 weeks. No surgery required. To wear a moon boot for a week. We’ll see.

1 minute ago, 1964_2 said:

Respect your opinion, but you don't have all the information around the current situation.

Happy to respect/trust the person/team that does have most of the information.

 

No I don’t.
But 3 weeks to lose EXACTLY the same way each time. That is enough evidence to tell me there is a problem. 
How big that problem is, we will all find out soon enough.

We used to thrive in the 3rd Quarter

Now that has dried up completely.

Why? and how to fix it….. 

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

No I don’t.
But 3 weeks to lose EXACTLY the same way each time. That is enough evidence to tell me there is a problem. 
How big that problem is, we will all find out soon enough.

We used to thrive in the 3rd Quarter

Now that has dried up completely.

Why? and how to fix it….. 

What if the people who do have the information, have confidence that the problem wont be a problem for too much longer? 

Problem solving / creative thinking doesn't appear to be a strength on the old demonland. 

 

4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

So this year they implemented a change to the game plan to tell forwards to crowd together and everyone to run by themselves?

The players are playing that way….

i can only go on what i am seeing 

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

The players are playing that way….

i can only go on what i am seeing 

And you think what you are seeing / thinking is more valuable/important than the people who have the information you don't?

 

1 hour ago, 1964_2 said:

What if the people who do have the information, have confidence that the problem wont be a problem for too much longer? 

Problem solving / creative thinking doesn't appear to be a strength on the old demonland. 

 

Well then there won’t be a problem, but until that happens it will be discussed on a discussion board 

Losing 2 in a row can be explained 

Losing 3 is a trend

Edited June 15, 20223 yr by Sir Why You Little

Just now, 1964_2 said:

And you think what you are seeing / thinking is more valuable/important than the people who have the information you don't?

 

Not at all. 3 losses in a row is what i am seeing. Bad losses, where we completely dry up in the 2nd half. I don’t think that is planned inside the Club

Do you think we planned to lose in front of Neale?

i sure hope not 

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

The players are playing that way….

i can only go on what i am seeing 

Come on mate, you're better than that.

The players aren't executing, there's a mountain of discussion about why, but the problem isn't the game plan. If you believe that the coaches got together and said 'next year we're not going to pressure, we're going to clump our forwards, and we're going to turn it over as much as possible' then I think you need to reconsider your "I can  only go on what I am seeing" philosophy.

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Well then there won’t be a problem, but until that happens it will be discussed on a discussion board 

Losing 2 in a row can be explained 

Losing 3 is atrend

happy to discuss. But am just struggling listening to someone asking for changes (that don't actually make any sense) when their basis is on a lack of information vs the people employed to make the changes (who do have most of the information)

Clearly the club didn't plan to loose 3 in a row. But with a bit of luck (less mid game injuries etc) we would have won 1 maybe 2 of the 3 (and be either 12-1 or 11-2), at the same time as setting ourselves up to be peaking at the pointy end of the year. 

Just struggle to see why it is so difficult for people to comprehend what is going on at the moment. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

Come on mate, you're better than that.

The players aren't executing, there's a mountain of discussion about why, but the problem isn't the game plan. If you believe that the coaches got together and said 'next year we're not going to pressure, we're going to clump our forwards, and we're going to turn it over as much as possible' then I think you need to reconsider your "I can  only go on what I am seeing" philosophy.

Well then how do you explain what is actually happening?

We don’t score after halftime. That is now a fact, until it is rectified. 
players have stopped being creative 

Why?  3 weeks exactly the same scenario 

Something is not working, unless it’s training loads, we are in a bit of strife with both Max and TMac unavailable for weeks

3 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

happy to discuss. But am just struggling listening to someone asking for changes (that don't actually make any sense) when their basis is on a lack of information vs the people employed to make the changes (who do have most of the information)

Clearly the club didn't plan to loose 3 in a row. But with a bit of luck (less mid game injuries etc) we would have won 1 maybe 2 of the 3 (and be either 12-1 or 11-2), at the same time as setting ourselves up to be peaking at the pointy end of the year. 

Just struggle to see why it is so difficult for people to comprehend what is going on at the moment. 

 

 

We led all 3 games comfortably and then stopped, that has nothing to do with luck.
Once momentum shifted we had no answer 3 times

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

We led all 3 games comfortably and then stopped, that has nothing to do with luck.
Once momentum shifted we had no answer 3 times

Exactly. One of the most dominant second half teams for 10 rounds (who went 10-0), suddenly has very little run/effort/pressure 3 weeks in a row to defend sizeable leads??    Does anything more actually need to be spelled out??     And if that is not simple enough to work out, have a look at what the premiership winning team did around this time last year?? 

That's me tapping out. Will be back in a month or so, to watch the "detractors" come crawling back. 

Go Dees. 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, 1964_2 said:

Or does it??!

Maybe the coach has a reason not to panic, like the majority of his snow loving, fair weathered supporters? 

 

If you support the MFC you are certainly not “fair weathered” or you would have left decades ago. 

22 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Exactly. One of the most dominant second half teams for 10 rounds (who went 10-0), suddenly has very little run/effort/pressure 3 weeks in a row to defend sizeable leads??    Does anything more actually need to be spelled out??     And if that is not simple enough to work out, have a look at what the premiership winning team did around this time last year?? 

That's me tapping out. Will be back in a month or so, to watch the "detractors" come crawling back. 

Go Dees. 

 

 

 

 

The METHOD of the losses is concerning. If it is training loads and only that, it isn’t anything to worry about. 
But i think it goes a little deeper than that. 
Time will tell

Why are we bothering to play the games if we're just going to lose anyway due to loading? Ìts complete crap.

Just now, BenF said:

Why are we bothering to play the games if we're just going to lose anyway due to loading? Ìts complete crap.

nearly won 1 maybe 2 out of the 3 :- and the sacrifice means we be peaking at the pointy end of the season. 

What is so difficult to comprehend??

You don’t win flags without planning/training to be peaking at the right time of the year 

looking forward to some headlines next week

“Time for some Majak”

“Dees turn to Majak”

“Dees open the Daw”

Surely he comes in. Offers more than Weideman imv  

 

15 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

looking forward to some headlines next week

“Time for some Majak”

“Dees turn to Majak”

“Dees open the Daw”

Surely he comes in. Offers more than Weideman imv  

 

There something going on with Daw that we do not know about. He has missed a number games this year including last Saturday with no reason given. And does not appear on the injury list. I doubt we will see him in the seniors against the Lions.

10 hours ago, picket fence said:

We need a three way ruck combo, comprising of Majak, Dogga and Weeds

I will post a full side tommorrow!!

I agree Picket  We need to be brave at selection and Daw must come in 

6 minutes ago, Kent said:

I agree Picket  We need to be brave at selection and Daw must come in 

Why was Daw not playing for Casey? I am not sure he is available.

9 hours ago, BenF said:

Why are we bothering to play the games if we're just going to lose anyway due to loading? Ìts complete crap.

The majority of people on here rabbiting on about loading don't even know what it is, yet alone have any actual (i.e., factual) evidence that we're doing it.

In the post-match interview on Monday, ANB scoffed at the idea that our current losses might have something to do with fitness. i'm with ANB.