TRAINING: Friday 17th December 2021

[deespicable me 1,486]

6 hours ago, old dee said:

Sadly I think he is a VFL talent DJ. If it does not happen this year it never will. 

Weid I think was actually smart to sign a two year extension with us. He is still young at around 24-25 yo and will be free agent and in his prime for his next contract. 

If he had of gone to a Gold Coast for more money he would have been exposed and much more demanded of him and a likely scenario where he fails. By taking a modest wage at Melbourne he can continue to develop and not get over exposed. He could still become a good player in the right team when he is at the peak of his abilities. Will that be at Melbourne? Not sure. He has another two years to prove he has value to a club. And Melbourne will want to make him a good prospect if for no other reason than to trade.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,755]

On 12/18/2021 at 8:39 AM, tiers said:

Players are not commodities, Redleg. Let's be careful before we become so hubristic that we think that our lesser players have enhanced values that are tradable.

One of the magic features of 2021 was the unity of the club. Let's keep it that way.

I don't agree with this. Players have a market value as evidenced by the trading system and compensation granted for the loss of free agents.

As an example, Hogan's departure netted us a valuable draft pick. The alternative, if players are not commoditised, is that Hogan would have left for nothing in return.

We can argue forever as to whether the value clubs get for various players is appropriate, but every player is assessed against a market rate whenever movement occurs (or, perhaps, doesn't occur, because of the rate.)

[picket fence 17,169]

On 12/19/2021 at 4:24 PM, Wrecker46 said:

Weid's biggest problem is he can't bring the ball to ground. He gets in position then just doesn't seem to even get his hands on it.

T Mac finished top 10 in the B&F in a premiership year. I doubt his spot is up for grabs.

On what Ive seen in training form T Mac is clearly and should be the prefered option. Weeds is backup at this stage unless he dominates at Casey and T Mac goes horribly out of form or is injured. Melky is a bit different but still has his work cut out to break into this outfit!

Edited December 20, 2021 by picket fence

[John Demonic 5,796]

6 hours ago, picket fence said:

On what Ive seen in training form T Mac is clearly and should be the prefered option. Weeds is backup at this stage unless he dominates at Casey and T Mac goes horribly out of form or is injured. Melky is a bit different but still has his work cut out to break into this outfit!

I think Weid can be a backup for Fritsch too, in case of injury. Or you'd shift Tmac into that crafty role, then have BB & Sam as key forwards. 

Would be preferable to trial it before bringing in Mitch Brown over Weid in that Fritta role 

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Edited December 20, 2021 by John Demonic

[picket fence 17,169]

I would play Mitch Brown over Weeds at this piont. He is a very clever forward who gets in dangerous positions.

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On 12/18/2021 at 12:29 PM, TRACATTACK said:

Thanks Mr. Picket. Love reading your training reports that are so insightful and entertaining. It’s almost like being there. It’s obviously a labour of love for you and we Demonlanders are the lucky recipients of your training reports.

We, the ones who cannot get there to any training session, are highly indebted to you, PF. Training is as interesting to us a being at a 'reserves' game of the past but moving into the 'here and now', represents a vital cog in the wheels of performance and player/team readiness. 

[DeesFlag2020 90]

On 12/20/2021 at 12:11 AM, deespicable me said:

Weid I think was actually smart to sign a two year extension with us. He is still young at around 24-25 yo and will be free agent and in his prime for his next contract. 

If he had of gone to a Gold Coast for more money he would have been exposed and much more demanded of him and a likely scenario where he fails. By taking a modest wage at Melbourne he can continue to develop and not get over exposed. He could still become a good player in the right team when he is at the peak of his abilities. Will that be at Melbourne? Not sure. He has another two years to prove he has value to a club. And Melbourne will want to make him a good prospect if for no other reason than to trade.

He is also a handy replacement should on of our key forwards go down or lose form. We only really uound top form in the back third of the season once our forward line struck form. It is essential for us.

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

It's baffling that Weid signed on. Would get more opportunity elsewhere. I don't think McDonald will be dropped anytime soon, the Weid is depth for 2 years.

[monoccular 17,429]

21 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

It's baffling that Weid signed on. Would get more opportunity elsewhere. I don't think McDonald will be dropped anytime soon, the Weid is depth for 2 years.

Baffling? 🤔

Sure more opportunity elsewhere but after all MFC are the reigning Premiers and if Weid has self belief and a free run with injury who better to play with. Maybe he has taken it as a challenge and a learning experience. 

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On 12/23/2021 at 11:03 PM, DeesFlag2020 said:

He is also a handy replacement should on of our key forwards go down or lose form. We only really uound top form in the back third of the season once our forward line struck form. It is essential for us.

Weid should not be played as full forward. He should be a second ruck and resting forward. Really if we lose either Maxy or Jacko through injury.

He plays  better running around and the 2018 Finals and his Carlton game this year proves that. Or send him back to CHB at Casey and use Harry as a forward now Tommo is back. 

We have options let's make the best of them all for each player and the team! 

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

I really think they, the powers that be, think he could fill the CHF spot and give us the versatility that a damaged Fritch or Macca would require especially for a game plan that will be under intense physical pressure.

[Willmoy1947 4,088]

Or FF for that matter.

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On 12/25/2021 at 12:15 AM, WERRIDEE said:

It's baffling that Weid signed on. Would get more opportunity elsewhere. I don't think McDonald will be dropped anytime soon, the Weid is depth for 2 years.

Could have said the same thing about McDonald who stuck around because nobody wanted him in any realistic way.

And, ironically, I think Weid can get above TMac quickly in the pecking order.

The only thing TMac has on Weid is that he has actually done something… another reason why Sam didn’t move on - he has got no runs on the board at a new club that picks him up on the cheap. They would not hesitate to discard if things aren’t happening quickly.

Edited December 26, 2021 by rpfc