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AFL Trade Period

Elwood 3184
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also tristan Xerri has requested a trade form NM to StKilda, he's a 201cm ruckman who wasn't getting picked ahead of tom campbell for the most part of the season and then was passed by comben and now CCJ is on his way, with alabakis and mckernan getting the flick ryder 34yo and paul hunter not impressing it's a smart move for player and club (SKS) only 22yo he should crack on from here (also the first and only player with a surname 'X' to play a senior afl game ever)

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    On 10/4/2021 at 7:50 AM, Elwood 3184 said:

    Officially kicks off today but is anyone holding their breath about whether the Dees are going to be active this week?

    “…unless the Dees pull a left-field move we anticipate their 2021 off-season to be extremely uneventful.”

    AFL Trade Period: Who should your club target?

    Well, that escalated quickly!

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    With a week to go in this trade period, it’s clear that there’s scope for plenty more deals even though so much is moving at snail’s pace. 

    Who would have thought that Melbourne could have found a well-credentialed depth player who cost it nothing and then took a place in the first round of the national draft?

    On top of that, you would think that there’s still the possibility of more movement whether it be on the player front or in terms of draft picks.

    The extent of that action is partly tied up with its out of contract players. As of a couple of days ago, they were believed to be Oskar Baker, Toby Bedford, Majak Daw ® (UFA), Kade Chandler ®, Kye Declase ®, Michael Hibberd, Marty Hore, Deakyn Smith ® and Daniel Turner ®.  The word is that Baker, Bedford, Daw and Hibberd will/have been offered contact extensions and now, Chandler is in discussions with the Crows. I would expect at least one if not both of our mid season draft picks to have their terms extended - they hardly had the opportunity to show their wares in the truncated VFL season (in fact, they each played only 4 matches with Casey) and they deserve more. 

    However, the extent to which Melbourne can trade players in will depend partly on whether it leaves some players out. The ultimate size of the list is finite. Still, the club’s recruiters and list managers have shown themselves to be resourceful so we have another week of following their moves (in between viewing replays of our finals achievements).

    Done Deals

    1. Essendon signed unrestricted free agent Jake Kelly (Adelaide Crows) on Friday, October 1.
    Based on the player’s age and the contract offer, the AFL advised the Adelaide Crows the club would be eligible for a round three compensation selection, which would be number 44 on the current provisional draft selection order.
    2. The Gold Coast Suns signed unrestricted free agent Mabior Chol (Richmond) on Friday, October 1.
    Based on the player’s age and the contract offer, the AFL advised Richmond the club would be eligible for an end of round two compensation selection, which would be number 38 on the current provisional draft selection order.
    3. Carlton made an offer to restricted free agent George Hewett (Sydney) on Friday, October 1. The Sydney Swans elected not to match the offer the following day and Hewett is able to join Carlton immediately.
    Based on the player’s age and the contract offer, the AFL advised the Sydney Swans the club would be eligible for an end of round two compensation selection, which would be number 39 on the current provisional draft selection order.
    4. Collingwood trade their future round two selection, future round three selection and future round four selection to the Gold Coast Suns for their round two (22), round three (46), round three (58), round five (79) and future round four selection.
    5. Collingwood trade their round three selection (41) to Geelong for Nathan Kreuger and their round three selection (55).
    6. Port Adelaide trade their future third-round pick to the Giants for Jeremy Finlayson.
    7. Melbourne signed unrestricted free agent Luke Dunstan (St Kilda) on Wednesday October 6.
    8. In a four-way trade, Melbourne trade their round three selection (45) to the Western Bulldogs for their first-round pick (17),
    St Kilda trade their round three selection (49) to Melbourne.
    The Adelaide Crows trade their round two selection (37) to Melbourne for a second-round pick (33) and a future first-rounder.
    The Adelaide Crows trade their round four selections (62, 66) and a future round four selection to St Kilda.
    The Adelaide Crows trade their round two selection (23) and round three selection (44) to the Western Bulldogs for a fourth-round pick (75).

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    Finlayson for a future 3rd rounder? How badly does the guy smell? I’m quite shocked at that. 

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    On 10/4/2021 at 7:50 AM, Elwood 3184 said:

    Officially kicks off today but is anyone holding their breath about whether the Dees are going to be active this week?

    “…unless the Dees pull a left-field move we anticipate their 2021 off-season to be extremely uneventful.”

    AFL Trade Period: Who should your club target?

    This hasn’t aged well, has it?

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    2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

     

    Ridiculous waste of a priority pick concession.  AFL should be livid and asking GCS for a please explain why they should be given any further assistance into the future. Been made to look like chumps.

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    8 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

    Ridiculous waste of a priority pick concession.  AFL should be livid and asking GCS for a please explain why they should be given any further assistance into the future. Been made to look like chumps.

    Yep, they are basically trading Brodie and P19 for Future picks that will be 25-30 and 60+.

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    Melbourne win a premiership, Fremantle make a good trade. 2021 -  the year that EVERYTHING changed.

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    GCS are stockpiling a mountain of 2022, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks (Their ownn, Pies and Freos).

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    28 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

    Ridiculous waste of a priority pick concession.  AFL should be livid and asking GCS for a please explain why they should be given any further assistance into the future. Been made to look like chumps.

    Agreed. I'd argue that the AFL should have blocked this trade. There is no way one can argue this is a fair or reasonable trade.

    IMO, this should signal the end of any form of priority picks if they're going to be dealt with like this.

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    The problem GCS and GWS have they are breding grounds for the other 16 clubs and over pay good players causing player dumps because of the salary caps like Collingwood, GWS and GCS.

    The good teams like Hawthorn in the early 2010's, Geelong, Richmond and Sydney control their player payments and players take less to remain at a successful club playing in Finals and winning premierships.

    In the period 2011 to 2020 the 4 clubs won 8 premierships and played in lots of finals but lists grow old and eventually players realise the club is going down because younger players are not injected into the team and teams recruiting older players with high profiles to maintain their list in the premiership window.

    Along come younger teams with good to great lists and the premiership window closes for the older teams because they have not got the pace to match the younger enthusiasic teams and they end up playing in the finals but not progressing 2021 showed Port Bulldog Sydney Essendon Lions GWS and Demons with their younger lists have overtaken the older teams.

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    48 minutes ago, Left Foot Snap said:

    Ridiculous waste of a priority pick concession.  AFL should be livid and asking GCS for a please explain why they should be given any further assistance into the future. Been made to look like chumps.

    The GC argument is that it helped them greatly. Brodie was a player they no longer wanted, but was contracted on a deal that hurt them both with the cap and with list space.

    They’ve managed to offload him, all of that and salary also get a future 2nd. They don’t do that without pick 19. They’ve got so many high draftees, a kid at pick 19 wasn’t going to move the needle and they didn’t have the space to bring in experienced players. 

    They’re in terrible shape off field, but this deal goes someone way to alleviating some of their problems and about more than binary value of the picks involved. Freo have done very well to exploit GC’s priorities (as we did with the Dogs & Crows in our trade for pick 17).

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    10 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

    The GC argument is that it helped them greatly. Brodie was a player they no longer wanted, but was contracted on a deal that hurt them both with the cap and with list space.

    They’ve managed to offload him, all of that and salary also get a future 2nd. They don’t do that without pick 19. They’ve got so many high draftees, a kid at pick 19 wasn’t going to move the needle and they didn’t have the space to bring in experienced players. 

    They’re in terrible shape off field, but this deal goes someone way to alleviating some of their problems and about more than binary value of the picks involved. Freo have done very well to exploit GC’s priorities (as we did with the Dogs & Crows in our trade for pick 17).

    I get the reasons as to how it helps them, that's apparent. The problem is it comprises the draft for no onfield improvement for them which is the point in handing them the assistance in the first place.

    Well played Fremantle, but the trade is a joke for all intensive purposes. 

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    20 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

    The GC argument is that it helped them greatly. Brodie was a player they no longer wanted, but was contracted on a deal that hurt them both with the cap and with list space.

    They’ve managed to offload him, all of that and salary also get a future 2nd. They don’t do that without pick 19. They’ve got so many high draftees, a kid at pick 19 wasn’t going to move the needle and they didn’t have the space to bring in experienced players. 

    They’re in terrible shape off field, but this deal goes someone way to alleviating some of their problems and about more than binary value of the picks involved. Freo have done very well to exploit GC’s priorities (as we did with the Dogs & Crows in our trade for pick 17).

    No, sorry, can't agree. It was a concession too far. They should never have got pick 19. 

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    6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

    So envious of all the Blues Trade Week Premierships. 

    I think that every Carlton supporter would trade their Trade Week Premierships for the real one any day of the week.

    There is an old saying that 'Premierships are not won in March' maybe it should be updated to 'Premierships are not won at the Trade Table but it can help'

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