I liked Sparrow's game. Spent a lot of time midfield. Turned it over a few times but he's tough and always seemed to be where the action is. 

A lot of his touches were under pressure and I think he will develop nicely

Tom turns the ball over a lot. I rewatched the game tonight (Lockdown good times) and his kicking was really poor. I hope that’s just due to exposure and fitness. He can get it ok. 

Harmesy on the other hand. His kicking was diabolical for a player of his experience.

2 hours ago, Mach5 said:

You spelled Abysmal wrong.

Zing.

I suppose you went to ‘great depths’ to pull that one out.

Touch’e

Both really good players with great futures ahead of them.

Jordon, although a bit down of late, has found a role that no-one else is filling. He's a very sensible player, runs hard, knows his own limitations and is an elite tackler.

I think it's no coincidence Petracca's increased defensive output has come with JJ's dip in form. We've really missed his tackling and others have had to take up the slack.

Sparrow is a young Jack Viney with perhaps a little less nous. I think Sparrow needs a spot to open up for him before we see his true value. He's so far down the pecking order for that bullocking inside mid spot others are doing the work he's most suited to.

He's virtually unstoppable at VFL level because he owns that role.

Would love to see him develop some smarts to go with his physicality, so that he can contribute when not in his perfect role, much the way Brayshaw has had to do.

On 8/15/2021 at 11:13 PM, Abyssal said:

Sparrow. more drive than Jordon

Sparrow more upside than Jordon

Jordon better Role player than Sparrow

ATM, Sparrow better option than Jordon, just.

 

On 8/16/2021 at 8:28 AM, Webber said:

I think he’s an inside mid….bullish, and with a good first 5 metre ‘charge’. Good hands, big kick but pretty squiffy yesterday, just needs more games and confidence that comes with it. As you say, deanox, will never be the primary selection, but will toil and become reliable, I’ve no doubt. 

Very early days to say never.

Edited August 19, 20214 yr by monoccular

Both Petracca and Oliver thrive when given even a couple more steps to work in. If Sparrow is doing okay at bashing and crashing and drawing attention to himself at the contest that means the ball is coming out to Oliver and Petracca a bit more instead of them having to go in after it and getting sat on.  That'll be worth goals.

That said, the effectiveness of Sparrow Viney and Harmes is very dependent on their humility. It's very visible that Viney's best is when he is playing a selfless defensive and blocking game. It's even more visible that Harmes' worst games and moment come whenever he thinks he is a star.

Sparrow is a young Jack Viney with perhaps a little less nous. I think Sparrow needs a spot to open up for him before we see his true value. He's so far down the pecking order for that bullocking inside mid spot others are doing the work he's most suited to.

Bit harsh on Sparrow, Viney has no football nous at all.

 

6 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Sparrow is a young Jack Viney with perhaps a little less nous. I think Sparrow needs a spot to open up for him before we see his true value. He's so far down the pecking order for that bullocking inside mid spot others are doing the work he's most suited to.

Bit harsh on Sparrow, Viney has no football nous at all.

 

I know "selected team line ups" are pretty well meaningless, but interesting to see Sparrow named on ball and Viney HFF.  

Are they testing if we can play both and how they would both fit in?

Actually would like to see JV spend quite a bit of time at HFF.

Time will tell.

Edited August 19, 20214 yr by monoccular
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Surprised he kept his spot ahead of Jordon, but wondering if it's to freshen Jordon up for finals?

1 hour ago, deanox said:

Surprised he kept his spot ahead of Jordon, but wondering if it's to freshen Jordon up for finals?

He had a better game than Jordon last week.  Jordon liked tired 

On 8/16/2021 at 9:36 PM, Mach5 said:

You spelled Abysmal wrong.

Zing.

Round 23

Sparrow preferred over Jordon

“Abysmal” selection ?

Sports bet have them at 1.90 after team selection to MFC at 1.94

Funny, the minor Premiership- presupposing a Melbourne win has MFC 1.90 to them at 2.25

The Sparrow, Melk, JJ & Harmes flip flop 'undecided / NQR' ongoing debates to me are an indication we are still lacking some real silk at the moment through the middle.

Something we need to try and rectify whether at the draft or trade table.

For now we've got a bunch of ok to average players who might 'just' fill a role on a good day but unfortunately aren't quite capable of taking it to the level many feel will make a difference to the present team's fortunes most weeks.

6 hours ago, jnrmac said:

He had a better game than Jordon last week.  Jordon liked tired 

Over the year I feel Jordon has the body of work I'd have prefered heading into finals. Perhaps they are resting him in lieu of the pre finals bye?

I actually added more here (to save double up).

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/50894-teams-rd-23-vs-geelong/?do=findComment&comment=2031643

5 hours ago, radar said:

Sports bet have them at 1.90 after team selection to MFC at 1.94

Funny, the minor Premiership- presupposing a Melbourne win has MFC 1.90 to them at 2.25

Due to the fact port can pass them on percentage even with a win and not us