19 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Welcome to Australian rules football did you just come out of a time wrap, has been 20 minutee for 3 decades

Since quarters often run to 30 minutes total as they did in days of yore, perhaps he couldn't understand how that was possible if the actual playing time was less than 25 minutes.   Do we now have 5 minutes more of conjestion driven ball-ups etc?  

30 minutes ago, sue said:

Since quarters often run to 30 minutes total as they did in days of yore, perhaps he couldn't understand how that was possible if the actual playing time was less than 25 minutes.   Do we now have 5 minutes more of conjestion driven ball-ups etc?  

basically, when we switched from 25 + timeon to 20 + timeon the afl introduced more situations where the umpire called timeon/off,  or the timekeepers automatically applied timeon/off, than previously.   end result meant total game time stayed much the same  

Edited December 11, 20204 yr by daisycutter

27 minutes ago, sue said:

Since quarters often run to 30 minutes total as they did in days of yore, perhaps he couldn't understand how that was possible if the actual playing time was less than 25 minutes.   Do we now have 5 minutes more of conjestion driven ball-ups etc?  

One of the big changes was time on being added for the ball being out of bounds. It was introduced in 1994 with the 20 minute quarter

Time on was first introduced to the Laws of the Game by the Australian National Football Council for the 1928 season.^[1] From 1928 until 1994, quarters lasted 25 minutes playing time, and time on was called only for scores and injuries; the rule of thumb was that there would be roughly one minute of time-on for every goal scored. From 1994, the AFL Commission adopted the shorter 20 minute quarter, and introduced time-on for many other stoppages, including a ball-up or boundary throw-in

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_on

34 minutes ago, sue said:

Since quarters often run to 30 minutes total as they did in days of yore, perhaps he couldn't understand how that was possible if the actual playing time was less than 25 minutes.   Do we now have 5 minutes more of conjestion driven ball-ups etc?  

Yes,  umpire's use to pay way more free kicks, 80's, 90,s football had very little congestion, up until the mid 2000's, it was a punishment to go to the bench not a rest.

Yeah back in 1993 and earlier if you were down by less than 1 goal with a minute left and the ball was up the other end from your goals you had no hope of winning as time kept ticking during an umpire's bounce or other stoppages.

Unsure if time kept ticking after a throw in back in those days?   

Yeah I was never crazy on the floating fixture idea but if the games are at least announced after Rd 6 that would be something. Would be nice to be able to plan in advance for interstate travel again. 

The footy frenzy floating fixture seemed to divide everyone with those who could easily have gone another nights footy after 20 games in a row and those who appreciated the time between games like old times. Hang on, everything divided people this year what am I talking about.

Can't even be bothered complaining about it, the AFL tells us what to like these days anyway.

I was booked to Perth in July this year for the Freo game.  Hoping we get a match there somewhere around that time next year.

I find myself less and less engaged in the non-MFC games these days, so my preference is actually shorter games and 15 per side. 

In saying that, the longer games and more congestion will suit our chances.

21 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Welcome to Australian rules football did you just come out of a time wrap, has been 20 minutee for 3 decades

Just assumed it was 25 as you never see a quarter thats less than that, but most go around 30 mins and some way longer.

Now I think of it the countdown clock on TV coverage at the start of quarters begins at 20 minutes so yeah I'm an [censored]

Edited December 11, 20204 yr by Pickett2Jackson

Not sure that the power clubs will like floating fixtures if it means an end to their cosy arrangements.

Jeff K has been very quiet of late but I suspect that there's some back room discussions going on among the Big 8 presidents.

Looking at the blockbusters I have come up with this list of who has the home team advantage for 2021 and therefore the ground receipts.. Couldn't think of anymore but I am sure there are some.The Derbies don't really count as those teams will play twice anyway.

Essendon are a big loser along with ourselves.

Carlton v Richmond (opening round)

Melbourne v Richmond (Anzac eve)

Collingwood v Essendon (Anzac day)

Collingwood v Melbourne (QB)

Richmond v Essendon (Dreamtime)

 

21 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Not sure that the power clubs will like floating fixtures if it means an end to their cosy arrangements.

Jeff K has been very quiet of late but I suspect that there's some back room discussions going on among the Big 8 presidents.

Looking at the blockbusters I have come up with this list of who has the home team advantage for 2021 and therefore the ground receipts.. Couldn't think of anymore but I am sure there are some.The Derbies don't really count as those teams will play twice anyway.

Essendon are a big loser along with ourselves.

Carlton v Richmond (opening round)

Melbourne v Richmond (Anzac eve)

Collingwood v Essendon (Anzac day)

Collingwood v Melbourne (QB)

Richmond v Essendon (Dreamtime)

 

Yes it was nice of the AFL for us to host Richmond in 2020 in front of NIL and Collingwood in front of 1,500.

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Not sure that the power clubs will like floating fixtures if it means an end to their cosy arrangements.

Jeff K has been very quiet of late but I suspect that there's some back room discussions going on among the Big 8 presidents.

Looking at the blockbusters I have come up with this list of who has the home team advantage for 2021 and therefore the ground receipts.. Couldn't think of anymore but I am sure there are some.The Derbies don't really count as those teams will play twice anyway.

Essendon are a big loser along with ourselves.

Carlton v Richmond (opening round)

Melbourne v Richmond (Anzac eve)

Collingwood v Essendon (Anzac day)

Collingwood v Melbourne (QB)

Richmond v Essendon (Dreamtime)

 

aren't we due to get both anzac eve and qb?

other big ones in the first six rounds would be:

carlton v richmond (opening game of opening round)

the filth v footscray (first friday nite)

geelong v hawthorn (easter monday - i think they share the gate?)

38 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yes it was nice of the AFL for us to host Richmond in 2020 in front of NIL and Collingwood in front of 1,500.

Not sure what is a fair outcome. It's not as simple as splitting 2021 revenues as that means that the  2021 home team only receives 50% of its expected revenue in a two year period. Perhaps splitting for both 2021 and 2022 is fairer.

It's a hard one

2 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

aren't we due to get both anzac eve and qb?

no we had them notionally in 2020

It would be nice to think Richmond and Collingwood will say...bad luck you missed out... here have 2021 but I can't see it happening easily

8 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

no we had them notionally in 2020

It would be nice to think Richmond and Collingwood will say...bad luck you missed out... here have 2021 but I can't see it happening easily

Surely the only reasonable thing is to just skip 2020 and do in 2021 what was scheduled for 2020. (If any of the 2020 matches did by some miracle go ahead with normal crowds, eg perhaps round 1 Carlton v Richmond, then stick to normal schedule of course.)

Edited December 11, 20204 yr by sue

7 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

no we had them notionally in 2020

It would be nice to think Richmond and Collingwood will say...bad luck you missed out... here have 2021 but I can't see it happening easily

but...but.....i thought the afl was in charge of fixturing?!??

3 hours ago, daisycutter said:

basically, when we switched from 25 + timeon to 20 + timeon the afl introduced more situations where the umpire called timeon/off,  or the timekeepers automatically applied timeon/off, than previously.   end result meant total game time stayed much the same  

Thanks Daisy for the clear explanation without the smart [censored] comments.