2020 Phantom Drafts & Rankings

[Mickey 4,776]

Can someone explain why, if a club like Essendon really rate an NGA player  they wouldn't bid at 7 rather than 9? Surely that gives them a better chance of actually getting them, and if not their preferred players are still there and the matching club has to pay more. Why bid at the end of your run of picks?

[DeeSpencer 26,647]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I'm not trying to stereotype here, (okay maybe I am) but this is becoming a theme with private school boys..

 

Doesn't count for stereotyping if you are one, so I'd say...I'm not surprised. A couple of factors from my own experience - very sheltered and privileged which sounds lovely but also creates a lot of pressure, I'm sure those who have grown up with less don't want to hear about the ultimate in first world problems but there's a lot to induce anxiety when you're expected to follow a certain path and not given a lot of freedom to find your own. The second is leverage. These guys have successful (by some definition) parents used to getting what they want especially when it comes to their kids futures. Why are they going to play by the AFL's rules if they don't have to?

[DeeSpencer 26,647]

3 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Can someone explain why, if a club like Essendon really rate an NGA player  they wouldn't bid at 7 rather than 9? Surely that gives them a better chance of actually getting them, and if not their preferred players are still there and the matching club has to pay more. Why bid at the end of your run of picks?

The best explanation is they aren't very smart.

Or possibly it does give them more freedom to trade that pick. Secure the 2 you really want first

[ChaserJ 5,192]

57 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Can someone explain why, if a club like Essendon really rate an NGA player  they wouldn't bid at 7 rather than 9? Surely that gives them a better chance of actually getting them, and if not their preferred players are still there and the matching club has to pay more. Why bid at the end of your run of picks?

Can only think (given Essendon's hand) that it's a tactic as they may entertain a trade which involves the Collingwood pick(s) that could be swallowed up by matching. In that event, Bombers would be keen to trade 9 rather than 7. Leak that you'll bid at nine and see if Pies will do a deal (at 9, they may just let Essendon have him). I think the Crows have legitimate interest.

[DistrACTION Jackson 10,638]

What time does everyting start?

 

[dazzledavey36 56,159]

1 minute ago, Action Jackson said:

What time does everyting start?

 

7pm

[Lucifers Hero 40,680]

Archie's manager is doing some back pedalling for him. didn-t-come-out-the-way-he-meant-top-10

"There have been suggestions Perkins' interview was in breach of draft rules.  The AFL has been contacted by AAP but they won't be making any comment".

Maybe his manager could give him a few media clues before the kid goes on air.

 

Edited December 9, 2020 by Lucifer's Hero

[deelusions from afar 1,892]

Don't like the tactic but i think it's been executed perfectly - if an interstate club was 50/50 with him and another player it will be enough to sway them.  If they're set on him, I don't think it will make much difference.

[Demonstone 23,508]

Can't see how it's not an attempt at draft tampering.  You don't get to pick which State you're going to play in when you nominate for the Draft in an Australia-wide competition where all 18 clubs are entitled to select you.

[Whispering_Jack 31,331]

On 11/29/2020 at 11:22 PM, Whispering_Jack said:

Thanks to both Gawndog98 and Goodoil for your bravery in committing to a phantom draft.  I like Goodoil’s lateral thinking on the potential pick trades. The one for Collingwood is particularly interesting - I think the way the Reef McInnes pick plays out is going to be an interesting aspect of the draft.  The Pies need a lifter and getting Elijah Hollands along with McInnes could be an important boost to their stocks and morale at the moment.

I have a bit of a tradition of my own at this time in the lead up to the draft where I pick a player of interest* and I’m going for Jake Bowey at pick 18 or 19. In some respects, I’m going against my grain because I think we have enough undersize players at the club already (nothing against Kozzy or Charlie but I have a view that there’s a limit to the number of smalls you can have on a list and I think we’re about there). 

I usually try to get to a few NAB Cup games and like to make it for the finals. I have an association with the Sandy Dragons going back to the start of the competition and saw one or two of their games from last year.  I’ve also seen plenty of vision of Bowey as an underager and I think he would be one of the draft’s bargains if we can secure him at 18/19. Despite his 175cm stature, he ticks all of the boxes you need for a small forward. Persistent attack on the footy, excellent disposal and consistency.  He could just about be right to go from the start and can see him hitting Ben Brown on the chest. With Kozzy and Bowey at the big forward’s feet, the pressure on opposition defenders is going to be enormous. I think the comparison with Shai Bolton is not out of order and Bowey might also find himself playing in the midfield. 

* the first time I tried this exercise at draft time, I picked out Nathan Jones and a year later I went for Chip Frawley but I haven’t  picked a Demon since. 
 

I tipped this!!!

Back in form after all these years.

[ChaserJ 5,192]

On 12/8/2020 at 9:11 PM, Nascent said:

Also what's happened to Seamus Mitchell? Doesn't seem to be factored into any phantoms drafts that I can see and doesn't rate a mention in Cal's whispers for later selections among any clubs. Slipped back into late/rookie territory?

@goodoil was spot on, Mitchell to Hawks with the last pick in the 20s.