Farmer 903 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 This poor guy was a pretty good player,I was pleased he came to Melbourne. Then we learn he has concussion, well over a year ago and he is just listed as Indefinite . does anyone know any more? You don’t give up on a bloke like this, if there is any possibility he can play again . Is he at the club? Was he in the gym? 1 Quote
Dannyz 3,101 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 He's with the squad and doing forms of Rehab after recently quarantining on the Gold Coast. Extremely conservative approach which is currently centred around his long term health, rather than his long term footballing future. There is hope. Goody quite likes him. 10 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,681 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 Yes as posted many times previously, his health now is the primary concern. I think he will continue to work away from any contact. Running and strength work only. MFC will do it’s best and it’s likely he will retire at end of 2020 in agreement with the club medical team. I think the club and the AFL need to be so careful with players showing constant and repetitive concussions. Brain injury is a serious lifelong debilitating condition on some of these young guys. 2 1 Quote
Lord Travis 10,819 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: MFC will do it’s best and it’s likely he will retire at end of 2020 in agreement with the club medical team. I think the club and the AFL need to be so careful with players showing constant and repetitive concussions. Have heard this also from a club source. As a 19 year old in his second season he averaged over 22 disposals off half back and finished 2nd in their BnF two votes behind Tom Lynch, and ahead of Steven May, Bennell and Miller. He looked set to become one of the elite back flanks in the league. Such a shame that injury ruined his career. His long term health is the priority at this stage. Concussions are nasty - look at how much it's ruined the life of Paddy McCartin. He basically lives in isolation with constant headaches, susceptible to bright light and randomly loses feeling in his hands. Wish Kade good health! 7 Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 Poor bugger. Must be a scary place to be, not to mention frustrating. 4 1 Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) I’ve taken the absence of his name when injury updates are given as a clear indication that he is being rehabilitated towards retirement. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s been working with the coaches a lot for perhaps a career post-footy. Concussions are such a difficult one to work out because it appears everyone reacts differently. But right now a footy club would be a good environment for him. Whatever happens I hope he doesn’t suffer ill effects through his life. Edited August 13, 2020 by Pates 1 Quote
Farmer 903 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Posted August 13, 2020 32 minutes ago, Pates said: I’ve taken the absence of his name when injury updates are given as a clear indication that he is being rehabilitated towards retirement. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s been working with the coaches a lot for perhaps a career post-footy. Concussions are such a difficult one to work out because it appears everyone reacts differently. But right now a footy club would be a good environment for him. Whatever happens I hope he doesn’t suffer ill effects through his life. There are different levels of concussion.Did he suffer several? If he’s contemplating retirement I can’t see the point of training . I very much hope he is not too bad and might be able to give it a go.depending, of course, on medical advice Quote
TheoX 1,222 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) GC didnt offer him a contract, they knew he was cooked. Bizzare that he got a fat 3 year contract with us. Unfortunately you'd think he needs to retire for the sake of his health. Edited August 13, 2020 by TheoX Edit Quote
Pates 9,697 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Farmer said: There are different levels of concussion.Did he suffer several? If he’s contemplating retirement I can’t see the point of training . I very much hope he is not too bad and might be able to give it a go.depending, of course, on medical advice I could be wrong but I think the club probably sees “dumping him” or leaving him behind in Melbourne as a bad move for his mental health and at the end of the day he is a contracted player so no harm in helping him rehab with the unlikely chance of him getting fully rehabilitated being something in the background. 1 Quote
poita 3,947 Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 I'd still love to know the extent of the due diligence that the club undertook before offering Kade a contract, which presumably is worth around $1M over the three years. I find it hard to believe that he had concussion issues at GC, was miraculously cured when we came knocking at the end of 2018, and suddenly had concussion issues again a few months later. 1 Quote
Dannyz 3,101 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, poita said: I'd still love to know the extent of the due diligence that the club undertook before offering Kade a contract, which presumably is worth around $1M over the three years. I find it hard to believe that he had concussion issues at GC, was miraculously cured when we came knocking at the end of 2018, and suddenly had concussion issues again a few months later. There was a school of thought that the root cause of KK's concussions had been found, something to do with the neck. It's risk/reward and the club backed themselves to strengthen the neck muscle etc etc. The same thing could have been said for Gus Brayshaw in 2017. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. 4 Quote
gs77 4,624 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dannyz said: There was a school of thought that the root cause of KK's concussions had been found, something to do with the neck. It's risk/reward and the club backed themselves to strengthen the neck muscle etc etc. The same thing could have been said for Gus Brayshaw in 2017. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I recall the revelation of the neck as the root cause at the time. I hope we didn't rely on reports by GC medicos on that matter. Quote
Redleg 42,194 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 20 hours ago, Dannyz said: He's with the squad and doing forms of Rehab after recently quarantining on the Gold Coast. Extremely conservative approach which is currently centred around his long term health, rather than his long term footballing future. There is hope. Goody quite likes him. Like the McCartins, he was the better player of the brothers, but because of concussions, the other brother has played more. There is a lot of luck involved in having a long footy career. 1 Quote
Dannyz 3,101 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, gs77 said: I recall the revelation of the neck as the root cause at the time. I hope we didn't rely on reports by GC medicos on that matter. It was an independent neurologist based on the Gold Coast. When a player has a couple of years out, people tend to forget the talent of a player. KK can seriously play, a runner up Best & Fairest winner. Edited August 14, 2020 by Dannyz 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,767 Posted August 14, 2020 Posted August 14, 2020 8 hours ago, gs77 said: I recall the revelation of the neck as the root cause at the time. I hope we didn't rely on reports by GC medicos on that matter. Come on. Give our club a bit of credit. As if. 1 Quote
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