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A sizeable number of the Population are racist, some countries have higher ratios than others but humans are still basically tribal/racist.

I dont ever see that changing in fact it is probably getting worse.

I have ( because there is little I can do about ) accepted that these things will keep happening.

i just voice my disapproval and get on with life. 

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43 minutes ago, old dee said:

A sizeable number of the Population are racist, some countries have higher ratios than others but humans are still basically tribal/racist.

I dont ever see that changing in fact it is probably getting worse.

I have ( because there is little I can do about ) accepted that these things will keep happening.

i just voice my disapproval and get on with life. 

Reminds me of the dilemma of pest and feral animal control.  Generally, once they are out and mixed into any large ecosystem the idea of removing them again is just a fantasy.  So the strategy has to shift to containment and keeping them to as small a population as possible while 'hardening' the ecosystem where possible to limit the damage they do.

In social terms, I guess that translates to always keep the pressure on the [censored] and always keep your own piece of life as clear and safe as possible.

On the other hand, when you think of the sheer scale of progress in the last thirty, fifty, hundred years, it is not completely impossible to image as future where racism is truly, truly marginal. The closer we get the easier it gets!

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1 hour ago, Demonland said:

The Dees standing in solidarity. 

Good on the club for their stance on this issue.   Nobody should have to put up with that nasty rubbish.

No doubt some will be sneering, accusing us of being "woke", "triggered" and "virtue signalling".

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20 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Reminds me of the dilemma of pest and feral animal control.  Generally, once they are out and mixed into any large ecosystem the idea of removing them again is just a fantasy.  So the strategy has to shift to containment and keeping them to as small a population as possible while 'hardening' the ecosystem where possible to limit the damage they do.

In social terms, I guess that translates to always keep the pressure on the [censored] and always keep your own piece of life as clear and safe as possible.

On the other hand, when you think of the sheer scale of progress in the last thirty, fifty, hundred years, it is not completely impossible to image as future where racism is truly, truly marginal. The closer we get the easier it gets!

I don't agree with your last paragraph, I think the problem is getting worse.

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6 minutes ago, demonstone said:

Good on the club for their stance on this issue.   Nobody should have to put up with that nasty rubbish.

No doubt some will be sneering, accusing us of being "woke", "triggered" and "virtue signalling".

I am so old I don't know any of those terms ds.

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28 minutes ago, old dee said:

I am so old I don't know any of those terms ds.

They're the latest lot of pejoratives trotted out by the right,  in the vein of "politically correct" as an insult.

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20 minutes ago, old dee said:

I don't agree with your last paragraph, I think the problem is getting worse.

i certainly agree it is getting worse in many parts of the world, fanned by rising nationalism and xenophobia

on the other hand it is improving in other parts

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15 minutes ago, demonstone said:

They're the latest lot of perjoratives trotted out by the right,  in the vein of "politically correct" as an insult.

a lot of it is just [censored] for tat. the left is not short when it comes to trotting out pejoratives and reinventing the english language. there is certainly more polarisation

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7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

a lot of it is just [censored] for tat. the left is not short when it comes to trotting out pejoratives and reinventing the english language. there is certainly more polarisation

Agree with both your comments, but can you improve my day by telling me where it is getting better?

I think the internet is actually making it worse, it gives racists a voice and introduces them to like minds which emboldens both.

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1 minute ago, old dee said:

Agree with both your comments, but can you improve my day by telling me where it is getting better?

Hmm... It is getting better to the extent that it is now a fight and not a bashing.

Being aggressively racist, and a whole lot of other obnoxious and predatory behaviours, now come with a price.  As long as we keep making that price be paid, behaviours will change.  It'll be an unpleasant process because the grubbiness will have to keep being made visible.

Ironically, the process could actually be described as a kind of social darwinism.  Bitter laughter ensues.

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11 minutes ago, old dee said:

Agree with both your comments, but can you improve my day by telling me where it is getting better?

I think the internet is actually making it worse, it gives racists a voice and introduces them to like minds which emboldens both.

true, social media gives a voice and platform to the more undesirables

where better? why here in australia, od, believe it or not, though it does get somewhat obscured by the fog of social media and hypocrisy

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5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

true, social media gives a voice and platform to the more undesirables

where better? why here in australia, od, believe it or not, though it does get somewhat obscured by the fog of social media and hypocrisy

I am struggling with that idea dc, my experience is the reverse perhaps my personal situation makes me more exposed then others.

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I think racism gets more prevalent in proportion to Population Growth. 
On the Surface it seems not so bad, but Australia is still a very racist Country. It goes on in Melbourne every night, whilst most of us sleep. 
Police working the night shift deal with it every day.
violent crimes and racism. 
Education is the only way to lessen it, but it will always be around. 
humans like their own, most of the time. 
The Indigenous Community has to get stronger and keep being strong. I hope they do it.   

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1 hour ago, demonstone said:

Good on the club for their stance on this issue.   Nobody should have to put up with that nasty rubbish.

No doubt some will be sneering, accusing us of being "woke", "triggered" and "virtue signalling".

You forgot “gaslighting”. I had never heard of woke until last week when the term was used by Barack Obama, since then I keep hearing it from numerous right wingers re The Deputy Prime Minister and his woke inner city lunatics. 

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1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Reminds me of the dilemma of pest and feral animal control.  Generally, once they are out and mixed into any large ecosystem the idea of removing them again is just a fantasy.  So the strategy has to shift to containment and keeping them to as small a population as possible while 'hardening' the ecosystem where possible to limit the damage they do.

In social terms, I guess that translates to always keep the pressure on the [censored] and always keep your own piece of life as clear and safe as possible.

On the other hand, when you think of the sheer scale of progress in the last thirty, fifty, hundred years, it is not completely impossible to image as future where racism is truly, truly marginal. The closer we get the easier it gets!

Except gene forcing for feral animals

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2 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

You forgot “gaslighting”. I had never heard of woke until last week when the term was used by Barack Obama, since then I keep hearing it from numerous right wingers re The Deputy Prime Minister and his woke inner city lunatics. 

I think most of the accusations of woke are directed at issues of perceived or real (justified or not) moral panic

 

sam Harris’s podcast with Ricky Gervais is a great starting point 

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3 hours ago, old dee said:

A sizeable number of the Population are racist, some countries have higher ratios than others but humans are still basically tribal/racist.

I dont ever see that changing in fact it is probably getting worse.

I have ( because there is little I can do about ) accepted that these things will keep happening.

i just voice my disapproval and get on with life. 

It will continue to get worse thanks to social media.  These people now have a platform to share their 'views' to millions of people and, thus, the above happens far more than it should.  

It's disgraceful behaviour, but what can we do about it?  Everything put in place doesn't necessarily seem to be working all that well.  We continue to bring more and more attention to it, yet it seems to be happening more than ever.

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9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

It will continue to get worse thanks to social media.  These people now have a platform to share their 'views' to millions of people and, thus, the above happens far more than it should.  

It's disgraceful behaviour, but what can we do about it?  Everything put in place doesn't necessarily seem to be working all that well.  We continue to bring more and more attention to it, yet it seems to be happening more than ever.

Sadly I agree 100%. 

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1 hour ago, old dee said:

I am struggling with that idea dc, my experience is the reverse perhaps my personal situation makes me more exposed then others.

your problem,od, is your memory of how blatant it used to be, certainly what i call little 'r' racism 

i liked lg's analogy " it is now a fight and not a bashing "

it will never totally disappear, people will naturally gravitate to a group and be wary of other groups. the more  pressure a group is under the more that group adopts groupthink and more the tendency for that group to discriminate against other groups whether rational or not. racism is just a form of of discrimination and competition. Demonland is a prime example but our discrimination is not based on racism  but most time is quite irrational

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1 hour ago, old dee said:

I am struggling with that idea dc, my experience is the reverse perhaps my personal situation makes me more exposed then others.

Why do you feel more exposed 'old dee'?

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The thing of social media is that it gives these wankers a platform to spew their garbage from the comfort of their keyboard/phone. It gives them the voice to say these things they’ve been thinking with little risk of repercussions, I can only hope investigations into this idiot uncover who they are and they’re able to be named, shamed, and fired from wherever they work. 

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