Jump to content

Phantom Drafts

Whispering_Jack
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

I don't know the players so can't really comment on who we should take at 3.

But I know that the last time an athletic ruck/forward was taken high in the draft was Tom Boyd at No 1!  He won the Bulldogs their premiership off his own boot playing forward and ruck and came within a whisker of winning the Norm Smith.

So I don't feel nervous about taking Jackson at #3.  Not suggesting he will be like Boyd just saying that talented big guys are taken early in the draft.  He could end up a bust or want to be traded 'home' ala Boyd.  But the club will way up the risks in using #3.

 
On 11/15/2019 at 6:56 PM, Lucifer's Hero said:

Champion Data top Mock draft is:  https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-mock-draft-2019-champion-data-rankings-pick-1-prospects-matt-rowell-tom-green-noah-anderson/news-story/e8b5be824b0695bda92ce6a7869dd570

  • 1. MATTHEW ROWELL
  • 2. THOMAS GREEN
  • 3. NOAH ANDERSON
  • 4. LUKE JACKSON
  • 5. HAYDEN YOUNG
  • 6. CALEB SERONG
  • 7. SAM FLANDERS
  • 8. LACHLAN ASH
  • 9. DEVEN ROBERTSON
  • 10. WILL GOULD

Interestingly, Green is ranked as 2nd best.  Surely, we must bid for him at 3?  Are we afraid GWS won't match? 

I see no risk in bidding for him - we either get one of the top 3 draftees (Green) or we select the player we would otherwise have chosen currently predicted to be Jackson. 

We must nail pick 3 and if Green is best available we go for him! 

Green reminds me a little of how Chunk played mid field the last 3 seasons or so.

Bid on Henry with pick 3 and put Freo in a very awkward place as they will then need to make a call on Henry or Jackson and more than likely won't get both which they might if we don't bid.

We don't need Green if GWS end up not countering.  We DO need Henry however and imho he will be a cracker and worth every cent of pick 3 when we look back in 5 years.

    • Like 1
     

    Bid on green. Get him, bonus if miss out on what want ,at 8 see if we can secure Geelong's picks.

    • Like 1
    2 hours ago, Damo said:

    There is no Lochie Whitfield in the top 3- 5. That would be great. We can do with another excellent outside Mid.

    Tom Green is looking superb. But we have plenty of inside Mids.

    Hadyn Young? Even if he was another Basher Houli its a lot to spend on HBF.

    Luke Jackson? How many very good talls have we got from Centre to FWD? 2 - TMac and Gawny. It just makes sense to take Jackson even if Weid, Pruess and Bradtke come suddenly very good. Luke says he is ready to play Round one. His highlights are very good. Left and right foot, great groundskills and solid pack marks. 12 year player probably. I dont see whats not to like.

    The guy who nearly won (and some scribes said should have won) the NS in Tiges' premiership?

    Having said that i would liken Ash or Gould (not in height obviously) more closely to Houli than say Young in terms of the manner in which they play and distribute the pill.

    • Like 1

    I would not be surprised if GCS pull out the Green bid first. Just a thought. 

    If going for Jackson need to have him signed and resigned for next 5 years.

    • Like 1

    My best guess at the top 10 

    Draft day trade - Crows pick 4 for Giants 6 and 2020 first. 

    1. Rowell  - GCS 

    2. Anderson - GCS 

    3. Young - Melbourne 

    4. Jackson - Giants 

    5. Flanders - Swans 

    6. GWS - Green - Crows Bid. 

    7. Stephens - Crows 

    8. Robertson - Dockers 

    9. Serong - Melbourne 

    10. Ash - Blues

    • Like 1
     

    -

    Edited by Redleg


    I'm going to have a stab at the 1st round, including possible pick swaps.   This is highly uneducated and largely guess work with some help from reading various phantom drafts and tidbits about who clubs are looking at.  Pick swapping adds a whole new dimension and difficulty to predicting how this will unfold.

    Some points that affect my phantom draft order

    • Nil bid on Green by Melbourne at 3 allowing GWS to have a selection before he gets bid on.
    • Melbourne trading pick 9 to port for Pick 13 and 19.
    • Carlton Bidding on Henry at pick 10

     

    1. Matt Rowell (GC)
    2. Noah Anderson (GC)
    3. Luke Jackson (MELB)
    4. Lachie Ash (GWS)
    5. Tom Green (GWS - matching Sydney bid)
    6. Hayden Young (SYD)
    7. Fischer McAsey (ADE)
    8. Sam Flanders (FRE)
    9. Dylan Stephens (PORT)
    10. Liam Henry (FRE - matching Carlton bid)
    11. Caleb Serong (CAR)
    12. Deven Robertson (HAW)
    13. Brodie Kemp (MELB)
    14. Miles Bergam (WB)
    15. Josh Worrell (GEEL)
    16. Trent Bianco (GC)
    17. Will Day (PORT)
    18. Jay Rantall (GEEL)
    19. Cody Weightman (MELB)
    20. Trent Rivers (RICH)

     

     

     

     

    • Like 2
    • Shocked 1

    I've read a lot on here over the past few weeks. Looked at various highlights reels. Read various phantom drafts. I've realised I'm clueless.  In Taylor and team I trust. they know all the players like I don't. Going to be a fun draft night. Do they keep picks, do they trade picks, who do they pick. Do they gamble and win on some trades. Do they gamble and lose. We'll know in a week and an hour unless some picks swaps happen before Friday's deadline.

     

    • Like 4

    1 hour ago, Nascent said:

    I'm going to have a stab at the 1st round, including possible pick swaps.   This is highly uneducated and largely guess work with some help from reading various phantom drafts and tidbits about who clubs are looking at.  Pick swapping adds a whole new dimension and difficulty to predicting how this will unfold.

    Some points that affect my phantom draft order

    • Nil bid on Green by Melbourne at 3 allowing GWS to have a selection before he gets bid on.
    • Melbourne trading pick 9 to port for Pick 13 and 19.
    • Carlton Bidding on Henry at pick 10

     

    1. Matt Rowell (GC)
    2. Noah Anderson (GC)
    3. Luke Jackson (MELB)
    4. Lachie Ash (GWS)
    5. Tom Green (GWS - matching Sydney bid)
    6. Hayden Young (SYD)
    7. Fischer McAsey (ADE)
    8. Sam Flanders (FRE)
    9. Dylan Stephens (PORT)
    10. Liam Henry (FRE - matching Carlton bid)
    11. Caleb Serong (CAR)
    12. Deven Robertson (HAW)
    13. Brodie Kemp (MELB)
    14. Miles Bergam (WB)
    15. Josh Worrell (GEEL)
    16. Trent Bianco (GC)
    17. Will Day (PORT)
    18. Jay Rantall (GEEL)
    19. Cody Weightman (MELB)
    20. Trent Rivers (RICH)

     

     

     

     

    That would be a dream result. I doubt Port will swap us those picks for 8 though, and I bet we draft Weightman with the earlier pick, just to make sure we get him. Also wouldn’t be surprised if Kemp was gone by then. I like it though.

    • Like 1
    1 hour ago, Nascent said:

    I'm going to have a stab at the 1st round, including possible pick swaps.   This is highly uneducated and largely guess work with some help from reading various phantom drafts and tidbits about who clubs are looking at.  Pick swapping adds a whole new dimension and difficulty to predicting how this will unfold.

    Some points that affect my phantom draft order

    • Nil bid on Green by Melbourne at 3 allowing GWS to have a selection before he gets bid on.
    • Melbourne trading pick 9 to port for Pick 13 and 19.
    • Carlton Bidding on Henry at pick 10

     

    1. Matt Rowell (GC)
    2. Noah Anderson (GC)
    3. Luke Jackson (MELB)
    4. Lachie Ash (GWS)
    5. Tom Green (GWS - matching Sydney bid)
    6. Hayden Young (SYD)
    7. Fischer McAsey (ADE)
    8. Sam Flanders (FRE)
    9. Dylan Stephens (PORT)
    10. Liam Henry (FRE - matching Carlton bid)
    11. Caleb Serong (CAR)
    12. Deven Robertson (HAW)
    13. Brodie Kemp (MELB)
    14. Miles Bergam (WB)
    15. Josh Worrell (GEEL)
    16. Trent Bianco (GC)
    17. Will Day (PORT)
    18. Jay Rantall (GEEL)
    19. Cody Weightman (MELB)
    20. Trent Rivers (RICH)

     

     

     

     

    I think GWS have moved up thinking Jackson will be there we would crazy not to bid for Green. Young is what we need Jackson less so. I would prefer us to trade with Freo.

    On 11/18/2019 at 2:04 PM, Redleg said:

    Can we just assume that if we take Jackson with what could be the first live pick, it is because we think he is special. Young is probably a safe pick,

    I was wondering why we draft a young ruck but it's now getting a bit of the Oliver feel about it.

    We could have taken the safe option in Parish, and he is going to be a good player but Oliver is the star.

    If we do it again...great.

    Have to trust we get this one right if we take Jackson over the safe pick in Young.

    • Like 4

    I was chatting to a friend who supports Carlton and he was saying they're quite keen on Serong at pick 9. he said though there is pretty strong word that there may be some behavior/attitude concerns with him which is why he may slide a little bit, has anyone else heard this?

    • Like 1
    2 hours ago, It's Time said:

    I've read a lot on here over the past few weeks. Looked at various highlights reels. Read various phantom drafts. I've realised I'm clueless.  In Taylor and team I trust. they know all the players like I don't. Going to be a fun draft night. Do they keep picks, do they trade picks, who do they pick. Do they gamble and win on some trades. Do they gamble and lose. We'll know in a week and an hour unless some picks swaps happen before Friday's deadline.

     

    Agreed 100%.

    I've found in the past, I've always been keen on the flashy mid/fwd player early, (Bontempelli, Stringer, etc.) but my favourite player is the hardworking back pocket/inside mid (Jetta, Viney, Oliver).

    In Taylor we trust. That's why he gets paid via those huge novelty checks.


    Whilst I’m happy with the additions of Langdon and Tomlinson are we so naive to think we’re out of the woods now with our ball movement?

    Young and Ash for me. 

    • Like 1
    3 hours ago, WERRIDEE said:

    I think GWS have moved up thinking Jackson will be there we would crazy not to bid for Green. Young is what we need Jackson less so. I would prefer us to trade with Freo.

    What's people's view about Green v Young. I have read some opinions that Green is right up there with the first 2 and then there's a drop off to anyone else. Would Green therefore be a better option than Young or Jackson even though he's an inside mid. 

    The Hun have us trading pick 9 (adjusted after Green bid by Sydney has been match) and GWS going with Ash ahead of Young, who slides to Freo's pick at 8.

    If that's where things are trending, then we have an interesting pool of teams who may be willing to move up, but not really sure which players in particular will generate the interest. Kemp, Bergman (who Gold Coast do like, linked with the Dogs at 13/14) or Serong may be around the mark if Adelaide go for McAsey at 7.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/melbourne-considering-trading-pick-8-to-land-three-top-prospects-in-next-weeks-afl-draft/news-story/efc635c787e5f19fae30aab8f6fa5daf

     
    4 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

    I was chatting to a friend who supports Carlton and he was saying they're quite keen on Serong at pick 9. he said though there is pretty strong word that there may be some behavior/attitude concerns with him which is why he may slide a little bit, has anyone else heard this?

    Think it’s all on-field stuff. Can get caught up in the heat of the moment and lose his cool giving away frees and 50 metre penalties.

    Don’t think there’s any off-field issues though.

    15 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    Whilst I’m happy with the additions of Langdon and Tomlinson are we so naive to think we’re out of the woods now with our ball movement?

    Young and Ash for me. 

    Would be a huge double addition.  Don't mind it at all BA.  Ash is going to be as good as Young in his own way imv.

    Having said that i would seriously consider putting a bid in on Green with 3 and make sure GWS are forced to a decision.  If we land him and miss Young then Ash might be an option with 8.  It's a no brainer win win move i reckon.

    Green & Ash are both super gets from this draft pool and were both in the top 7/8 players over the carnival from what i watched.

    • Like 1

    Guest
    This topic is now closed to further replies.
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • GAMEDAY: Rd 17 vs Adelaide

      It's Game Day and the Demons are back on the road for their 3rd interstate game in 4 weeks as they face a fit and firing Crows at Adelaide Oval. With finals now out of our grasps what are you hoping from the Dees today?

      • 0 replies
      Demonland

    • WHAT’S NEXT? by The Oracle

      What’s next for a beleagured Melbourne Football Club down in form and confidence, facing  intense criticism and disapproval over some underwhelming recent performances and in the midst of a four game losing streak? Why, it’s Adelaide which boasts the best percentage in the AFL and has won six of its last seven games. The Crows are hot and not only that, the game is at the Adelaide Oval; yet another away fixture and the third in a row at a venue outside of Victoria. One of the problems the Demons have these days is that they rarely have the luxury of true home ground advantage, something they have enjoyed just once since mid April. 

      • 2 replies
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Gold Coast

      From the start, Melbourne’s performance against the Gold Coast Suns at Peoples First Stadium was nothing short of a massive botch up and it came down in the first instance to poor preparation. Rather than adequately preparing the team for battle against an opponent potentially on the skids after suffering three consecutive losses, the Demons looking anything but sharp and ready to play in the opening minutes of the game. By way of contrast, the Suns demonstrated a clear sense of purpose and will to win. From the very first bounce of the ball they were back to where they left off earlier in the season in Round Three when the teams met at the MCG. They ran rings around the Demons and finished the game off with a dominant six goal final term. This time, they produced another dominant quarter to start the game, restricting Melbourne to a solitary point to lead by six goals at the first break, by which time, the game was all but over.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Gold Coast

      Coming off four consecutive victories and with a team filled with 17 AFL listed players, the Casey Demons took to their early morning encounter with the lowly Gold Coast Suns at People First Stadium with the swagger of a team that thought a win was inevitable. They were smashing it for the first twenty minutes of the game after Tom Fullarton booted the first two goals but they then descended into an abyss of frustrating poor form and lackadaisical effort that saw the swagger and the early arrogance disappear by quarter time when their lead was overtaken by a more intense and committed opponent. The Suns continued to apply the pressure in the second quarter and got out to a three goal lead in mid term before the Demons fought back. A late goal to the home side before the half time bell saw them ten points up at the break and another surge in the third quarter saw them comfortably up with a 23 point lead at the final break.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Rd 17 vs Adelaide

      With their season all over bar the shouting the Demons head back on the road for the third week in a row as they return to Adelaide to take on the Crows. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Clap
      • 213 replies
      Demonland

    • POSTGAME: Rd 16 vs Gold Coast

      The Demons did not come to play from the opening bounce and let the Gold Coast kick the first 5 goals of the match. They then outscored the Suns for the next 3 quarters but it was too little too late and their season is now effectively over.

        • Like
      • 231 replies
      Demonland
    View All