10 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Thoughts?

Massive no from me.  I don't think we need to recruit key position players unless it's someone of high quality to play alongside T Mac.  Outside run and small forwards should be our focus.

No from me, too. Outside run, small forwards, and Langton. Nice mix - after a smashing pre-season of skills, fitness and variation in the game 'plans' - and I do mean these to be plural. 

I'd be backing in Weid and McDonald. and hoping for better kicks inside 50 and better forward craft. the realistic outside key forward that i would be chasing is Ben King who i think genuinely wants to come back to vic but the Suns probably won't let him go. 

but if they said they'd trade him for pick 3 i'd do that for sure.

On 8/28/2019 at 9:29 AM, Swooper1987 said:

I rate this guy.  He's one of the best "down the line" marks in the comp.  Other than Gawn, since we lost Hogan we don't have anyone else who  does this role. I'd certainly look at it.

With the amount of up the line kicks and bombs inside 50 ... what a perfect fit.

Marking i50 and taking set shots sadly missing this season.  Even if his conversion stays ordinary (but not as bad as early career) it allows your mids/defenders to recover aerobically and set up the zone or press more effectively thereby improving likelihood of more repeat entries and less slinghots by the opp.

AND he doesn't necessarily need to mark everything.  Get the ball to ground for the quality smalls we are about to recruit ?

On 8/28/2019 at 9:22 AM, Fat Tony said:

His goal kicking was much improved this year. Levi could be Earl Spalding in reverse. Is he a free agent?

Very much improved FT.  Similar age too i would think.

He only needs an average season with one decent finals campaign.  Win the premiership and who cares after that.  Could be our version of Tom Boyd.

Worth a serious look.

On 8/28/2019 at 9:22 AM, Fat Tony said:

His goal kicking was much improved this year. Levi could be Earl Spalding in reverse. Is he a free agent?

Not a free agent but he would cost nothing 

He’s an Unrestricted Free Agent. Regardless, still no.

Edited August 29, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

Its a hesitant yes from me. I'm not that interested in Levi but i'm interested in scoring and it's been the crux of how we have performed throughout the year.

We have moved around forward plans and even tried adapting a faster play style to get the ball in 'quick'  (Some memories of this years queens birthday still make me cringe). The 'get the ball to the ground' approach hasn't provided much fruit either.

Balls goes in - ball comes out. Story of our year. McDonald gets double teamed and we can't rely on Weiderman to kick a bag. 

Another tall forward provides McDonald flexibility to run around and cause havoc and eases impact from injury.

Belief in winning the ball and being able to score seems to make or break the team. I don't care about Levi too much but If we don't add something to our forward line then I'm strapping myself in for another rocky year.

Which teams in the top 8 have a big lug of a player in the forward line who managed to play 20 games but only kick 15 goals? 1/5th of those goals were against us as well. 

Edited August 29, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Which teams in the top 8 have a big lug of a player in the forward line who managed to play 20 games but only kick 15 goals? 1/5th of those goals were against us as well. 

 

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s an Unrestricted Free Agent. Regardless, still no.

He's not.

31 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

He's not.

Where are you getting your information? Or are you just arguing because you’re bored?

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/afl-free-agents-2019-updated-list-of-restricted-and-unrestricted-free-agents-revealed/news-story/34a03922d5f74bd43177e70f9b4c027b

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/afl/the-afl-releases-the-list-of-2019-free-agents-with-stephen-coniglio-headlining-the-list/news-story/df8d33065e92e6f32e2f3a3fa734f96f

https://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-04/former-free-agents-among-50-names-added-to-2019-list

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/out_of_contract_players

Edited August 29, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

5 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Where are you getting your information? Or are you just arguing because that’s what you do?

I'm getting it from the most recent source, which incidentally is in the OP.

It's also been explained a couple of times in posts in this thread.

Worth a read mate.

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Which teams in the top 8 have a big lug of a player in the forward line who managed to play 20 games but only kick 15 goals? 1/5th of those goals were against us as well. 

Casboult is the 2nd forward option, sometimes even 3rd. He's also played in defence and in the ruck.

For a comparison within your limited context, here's some of the second key forwards with similar outputs from top 8 teams:

Geelong - Ratugolea: 12 goals in 17 games.

Brisbane - McStay: 19 goals in 22 games.

Richmond - Riewoldt: 16 goals in 10 games.

Collingwood - Cox: 19 goals in 14 games.

Bulldogs - Schache: 23 goals in 13 games.

Bombers - McKernan: 17 goals in 15 games.

That's a combined average of 1.1 goals per game for those teams.

So I would say 6 teams out of the top 8 have similar output from their second key forward.

He’s still classified as a UFA...and he’s a spud. 

Edited August 29, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s a spud. 

Good chat.

6 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s still classified as a UFA

He's not.

Here, I'll lead you by the hand a bit more...

"while Levi Casboult satisfied a trigger in his contract that will earn him a deal for 2020."

Article from August 25

Note the "Out of contract" players listed:

Matthew Cottrell, Josh Deluca, Jarrod Garlett, Mick Gibbons, Hugh Goddard, Patrick Kerr, Kym LeBois, Matthew Lobbe, Andrew Phillips, Angus Schumacher, Kade Simpson

You're welcome.

10 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

He’s still classified as a UFA

Also, from this very thread you're 'contributing' lots to...

Have a good night.

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Which teams in the top 8 have a big lug of a player in the forward line who managed to play 20 games but only kick 15 goals? 1/5th of those goals were against us as well. 

He played most of this year down back Ethan, 

I'd take him on the cheap can take a grab and keeps a defender busy opening it up for Tmac and Weid 

50 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

He played most of this year down back Ethan, 

I'd take him on the cheap can take a grab and keeps a defender busy opening it up for Tmac and Weid 

His first game down back was round 10 vs St Kilda after Jones went down with concussion. He played there until round 13 when he was moved forward again then Carlton had a bye in round 14. Round 15 he went back to defence and round 16 he played forward against us. Rounds 18, 19, 20 and 21 he played forward before Jones went down again for the last two games where he was moved back to defence. 

So that’s 14 forward and 6 in defence. 

He played a little more in defence than what I thought but in no way is that most of the season. By all reports, he definitely played better down back as well. As far as forward targets go, I just think we have to aim a little higher, he’ll also be 30 before the start of next season.

Edited August 29, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

25 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

His first game down back was round 10 vs St Kilda after Jones went down with concussion. He played there until round 13 when he was moved forward again then Carlton had a bye in round 14. Round 15 he went back to defence and round 16 he played forward against us. Rounds 18, 19, 20 and 21 he played forward before Jones went down again for the last two games where he was moved back to defence. 

So that’s 14 forward and 6 in defence. 

He played a little more in defence than what I thought but in no way is that most of the season. By all reports, he definitely played better down back as well. As far as forward targets go, I just think we have to aim a little higher, he’ll also be 30 before the start of next season.

I'm not talking about selling the farm for him, just bringing him in to help Weids development

11 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Also, from this very thread you're 'contributing' lots to...

Have a good night.

I feel as though another mea culpa thread is needed....

12 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I'm not talking about selling the farm for him, just bringing him in to help Weids development

Fair enough. I’d prefer if we targeted him it was for the backline so May can become a swing-man and have a go up forward. The Carlton supporters I’ve spoken to think we’re crazy if we target him as a pure forward. The games he played down back this year proved he’s a better defender than forward. We’ll see what happens I suppose. 

Edited August 30, 20195 yr by Ethan Tremblay

"Levi Casboult does want an extension, he will be out of contract next year. He's had a career best season and is looking for more than a 1-year deal beyond 2020" - Mitch Cleary. #AFLTrade

Would not be against getting him for a couple years. 

No thanks.   

I know he had an ok year but his kicking is a liability.  

2 hours ago, Demons11 said:

No thanks.   

I know he had an ok year but his kicking is a liability.  

So he would fit right in then D11?

Edited September 30, 20195 yr by Rusty Nails