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Demon JM
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As many have alluded on here, we have an imbalance on our list. Not enough outside leaning players that can spread and use the ball cleanly from the contest.  

We get too many dirty clearances at the moment. Part of this is positioning and tactics at stoppages, but I think we all agree that we need to recruit some more specific skilled outside players 

Another list weakness is creative and quick small crumbing forwards who can put on pressure as well. 

I think we could also do with another key forward who can take a contested mark. 

The game plan is an issue too... to reliant on dominating  the contested ball and clearances. Not enough defensive tactics if plan A doesn’t work. 

Hopefully the coaches can recognise that our game style and personal needs adjusting to suit the 666 rules... because we are going to get left for dead in the comp if we keep the same recruiting philosophy... outside play and skill is more important than ever with 666 ... you still need to win your share of contests and clearances but we need to have players that can create space from clearances and deliver it well and create quality opportunities for our forwards as well. 

So how do we fix It ? 

Use what we have  

Baker, Hunt , KK, Harmes  hopefully as the season goes theses types of players can have a real impact on our team. 

We really need Baker to come on with his speed (not sure of his skills though! ) 

Hunt-  we need the coaches to to improve his kicking because he has all the other tools to thrive. 

Hopefully Chandler and and Bedford provide some pressure and creativity up forward eventually but they are just making their way in the game at the moment 

also need Garlett to comeback into the side and have an impact, but his pressure needs to be up on last year. 

Players to Target form other Clubs 

Obviously we need to use our 1st round pick this year .. sadly it could be quite early 

But we need an injection of elite talent ... look what Conor Rozee and Zac Butters has done for Port Adelaide 

but i think we should be using 2nd, 3rd And 4th Round picks  to look at players that could really help our list. 

players I have identified that could realistically be poached or are not getting  regular opportunities are:  

Jordan Gallucci (Adel) 

Tom Cutler and Lewis Taylor (Bris) 

Callum Brown and Josh Daicos (Coll)

Ed Langdon (Frem) 

Jordan Cunico (Geel) 

Ben Ainsworth (GC)

Aydin Johnson and Kane Farrell (Port)

Shai Bolton and Connor Mennadue (Rich) 

Ben Long ( Stk ) * although just signed a contract I believe 

Matthew Ling and Ryley Stoddart (Syd) 

Jackson Nelson (WCE)

Bailey Dale, Lucas Webb and Patrick Lipinski ( WB) 

 

What do people think ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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    I'm still annoyed we got KK. he's outside but he isnt that quick. The next draft I want our top 3 or 4 picks to be lightning quick. even if we take some mature age recruits. we're just so bloody slow. 

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    37 minutes ago, Demon JM said:

    As many have alluded on here, we have an imbalance on our list. Not enough outside leaning players that can spread and use the ball cleanly from the contest.  

    We get too many dirty clearances at the moment. Part of this is positioning and tactics at stoppages, but I think we all agree that we need to recruit some more specific skilled outside players 

    Another list weakness is creative and quick small crumbing forwards who can put on pressure as well. 

    I think we could also do with another key forward who can take a contested mark. 

    The game plan is an issue too... to reliant on dominating  the contested ball and clearances. Not enough defensive tactics if plan A doesn’t work. 

    Hopefully the coaches can recognise that our game style and personal needs adjusting to suit the 666 rules... because we are going to get left for dead in the comp if we keep the same recruiting philosophy... outside play and skill is more important than ever with 666 ... you still need to win your share of contests and clearances but we need to have players that can create space from clearances and deliver it well and create quality opportunities for our forwards as well. 

    So how do we fix It ? 

    Use what we have  

    Baker, Hunt , KK, Harmes  hopefully as the season goes theses types of players can have a real impact on our team. 

    We really need Baker to come on with his speed (not sure of his skills though! ) 

    Hunt-  we need the coaches to to improve his kicking because he has all the other tools to thrive. 

    Hopefully Chandler and and Bedford provide some pressure and creativity up forward eventually but they are just making their way in the game at the moment 

    also need Garlett to comeback into the side and have an impact, but his pressure needs to be up on last year. 

    Players to Target form other Clubs 

    Obviously we need to use our 1st round pick this year .. sadly it could be quite early 

    But we need an injection of elite talent ... look what Conor Rozee and Zac Butters has done for Port Adelaide 

    but i think we should be using 2nd, 3rd And 4th Round picks  to look at players that could really help our list. 

    players I have identified that could realistically be poached or are not getting  regular opportunities are:  

    Jordan Gallucci (Adel) 

    Tom Cutler and Lewis Taylor (Bris) 

    Callum Brown and Josh Daicos (Coll)

    Ed Langdon (Frem) 

    Jordan Cunico (Geel) 

    Ben Ainsworth (GC)

    Aydin Johnson and Kane Farrell (Port)

    Shai Bolton and Connor Mennadue (Rich) 

    Ben Long ( Stk ) * although just signed a contract I believe 

    Matthew Ling and Ryley Stoddart (Syd) 

    Jackson Nelson (WCE)

    Bailey Dale, Lucas Webb and Patrick Lipinski ( WB) 

     

    What do people think ?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I'd look at menadue and Langdon. 

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    Langdon, Ainsworth and Bolton

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    (IMO) The only current key players who should still be on our list if a premiership window opens years from now are -

    Oliver 

    Brayshaw 

    Lever

    Weideman 

    Rebuild & recruiting for all other positions must begin now. Last year was a dream. We are years away from threatening for a premiership. The likes of Gawn, T.McDonald & May etc will be long retired.

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    3 hours ago, Demon JM said:

    So how do we fix It ? 

    Needs :-  man on man skills

    #  a Clint Bizzel sized/styled defender..... low centre of gravity, balanced, good hands, strong overhead, agile, skilled runner..... will suit the 666 rule.

    #  Johnathon Patton

    #  a Cyril Rioli type rover..... not a forward-pocket specialist....  I wonder if Cyril's available ?

    #  an undersized mobile CHF....  must be quick, agile, skilled, great reader of play, quick-witted...  does Dermie have any illegitimate sons out there, anywhere ?

    #  Nippy running players with courage..... who can mark the ball.

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    7 hours ago, DV8 said:

     

    #  Johnathon Patton

    We must go for John Patton. It will allow Tommy to go back all our key positions solved

    B: JETTA, MAY, LEVER

    HB: HIBBERD, T.MCDONALD, FRITSCH

    C : HARMES, OLIVER, SALEM

    HF: HANNAN, WEIDEMAN, VANDENBERG

    F: J.SMITH, PATTON, MELKSHAM

    FOLL: GAWN, VINEY, BRAYSHAW

    IC: LOCKHART, PETRACCA, C.WAGNER, HUNT

    That will be a team that will get us back in the finals.

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    5 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Is Patton a free agent? 

    No he's not but Day and don't laugh Casboult are. I'd look at those 2 as well. 

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    Just now, John Demonic said:

    Give up the chase, Hawthorn were already linked to him in an article.

    We just lost Hogan we also have money in the bank. Let the bidding war begin!

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    12 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

    We just lost Hogan we also have money in the bank. Let the bidding war begin!

    Hawthorn are still one of the oldest teams in the comp, they would have budgeted far more money than us from their future retirements including Roughhead. And that's not even to mention that he'd probably take unders to go there compared to us. No chance, look elsewhere.

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    Did someone mention in another thread Josh Dunkley is OOC this year? I wouldn’t mind having a go at him.

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    55 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Is Patton a free agent? 

    No but Hawks are into him big time.   Many clubs looked last time... but his contract dollars are apparently high...  he's coming out of contract soon.

    15 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

    hasn't Patton done his knee about 3 times already? I don't think he'd be on my shopping list unless he came very cheap.

    Yes,  2x on one knee,  last time the other knee...  The idea is to not pay to highly.

    The man can play,  established player,  no development time,  straight in to seniors. ready to go.

    Even IF he was with one expensive year left to honour in his contract... would be worth it on reduced coin,  thereafter.

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    17 minutes ago, DV8 said:

    No but Hawks are into him big time.   Many clubs looked last time... but his contract dollars are apparently high...  he's coming out of contract soon.

    Yes,  2x on one knee,  last time the other knee...  The idea is to not pay to highly.

    The man can play,  established player,  no development time,  straight in to seniors. ready to go.

    Even IF he was with one expensive year left to honour in his contract... would be worth it on reduced coin,  thereafter.

    2 bung knees eh, pass.

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    12 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

    2 bung knees eh, pass.

    You cannot get everything shiny and new  'DD'.   We would never be able to afford them all.

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    1 hour ago, chook fowler said:

    Is Patton a free agent? 

    RFA at the end of 2020

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    26 minutes ago, DV8 said:

    You cannot get everything shiny and new  'DD'.   We would never be able to afford them all.

    I understand that but I also think we have enough injury prone players on our list as it is.

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    5 minutes ago, Demon Dude said:

    I understand that but I also think we have enough injury prone players on our list as it is.

    So you disagree with Clarko's Hawks chasing him,  since last year then

    I 'd like you to tell us what it is they're getting wrong  'DD' ?

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