Is he supposed to move out of the way?

This thread is further proof of something I learned very early in my legal career. Put 4 people on different corners of an intersection, to view an accident occurring in the intersection and you will get 4 different versions of what happened if you ask them what they saw.

As for the Tribunal,  given we are challenging the penalty, I would assume we have the Lions on side to explain why Berry didn’t come back on and to downgrade the medium impact by showing no injury. 

4 minutes ago, Pipefitter said:

Is he supposed to move out of the way?

For Pete's sake am I watching the same footage as others. Or is there two versions. May dropped his shoulder and moved into him deliberately to drop him. Which he succeeded in doing. Which is why he got reported. Stupid

Yes he could have moved out the way. But that is not really an option. So instead he could have achieved the aim of blocking him by simply bracing and protecting himself. And he would not have been reported. Instead he made the decision to bump (A much smaller player) and therefore put himself in a situation where a report becomes possible. Stupid. And what did he gain? Nothing.

So now we face the chance of meeting a side loaded with tall forwards without our biggest and best kpd. Great. Good on him. Smart. Not.

Even if gets off the appeal is s palaver we don't need ahead of round one.

The club will say the right things but internally they will be fuming.

2 minutes ago, binman said:

 

The club will say the right things but internally they will be fuming.

I doubt it.

 

It was off the ball, and head high so he deserves a week.

Of course I’d love him to get off , but would be shocked if he did.

Clarifying two things: 

- Berry is taller than May while somewhat lighter. 

- May had an option:  he could have gone for the ball which is where Berry was heading instead of 'bracing' for Berry contact or at least gone for the ball after Berry fell instead of walking the other way.

Nonetheless, imv it is not 'medium' impact and the criteria applied to assess it are rubbish in this instance.

Very pleased the club has shown the mettle to appeal.  It shows we will start standing up for ourselves and our players.

Edited March 12, 20197 yr by Lucifer's Hero

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

of course he can't step out of the way. he just needed to not catch him on the chin.

having said that I am glad we are appealing.  I reckon we are a good chance to downgrade the impact to low

It happens in a split second. If accidental connection is made to the chin - as it may have been the case in this instance - you need to establish intent. I believe May braced himself and that's where the collision impacted. It's not as though he set out to maim him...

The points of May having no other option are debatable but the fact of the matter is there's no way that should be medium impact

8 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

It was off the ball, and head high so he deserves a week.

Of course I’d love him to get off , but would be shocked if he did.

 

Then explain how Burton got off the Higgins hit...

Rules for some...

 

Edited March 12, 20197 yr by The Stigga

16 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

It was off the ball, and head high so he deserves a week.

Of course I’d love him to get off , but would be shocked if he did.

it wasn't off the ball at all. the ball was in the immediate area. Berry handpasses a split second before the bump/block.

1 hour ago, poita said:

May is a dummy, and clearly hasn't learned from his nine previous suspensions. I would much rather he took the week now and spent some time reflecting, rather than doing something equally stupid later in the year and costing the team when it matters more.

Was contact unavoidable? Possibly. Was it necessary to turn and collect a smaller player with hip and shoulder with first contact to the head? Clearly not. 

As much as there have been numerous other MRP decisions that are completely illogical, I don't have a problem with this one.

Just a typical garbage post by you.

4 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

The points of May having no other option are debatable but the fact of the matter is there's no way that should be medium impact

 

Agreed, the May decision has been tacitly described as an 'optics' issue

But then how many suspensions have been based on the 'result'

 

Edited March 12, 20197 yr by The Stigga

10 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

It was off the ball, and head high so he deserves a week.

Of course I’d love him to get off , but would be shocked if he did.

Garbage

11 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

It was off the ball, and head high so he deserves a week.

Of course I’d love him to get off , but would be shocked if he did.

Oh he'll get off.

18 hours ago, clark's kick said:

It's stupid play by May.

You can't deny he moves towards berry to make contact.

Yes, he wouldn't be suspend if he played for collingwood or essendon. Yes, he wouldn't be suspended if his name was dangerfield or selwood. And yes, it's horribly inconsistent, and will undoubtedly be inconsistent with other decisions from that moron christian this year.

But May stupidly put himself in the position to be judged by an inconsistent system.

Control what you can control.

It was dumb. I hope someone is privately tearing strips off him, especially if he is on $900k a year. It was a practice game ffs!

What do you propose he does? Move out of his way, so he then can receive a handball back.  You’re allowed to block someone to stop him moving to the next contest

28 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

I doubt it.

 

You're kidding right. 

5 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

What do you propose he does? Move out of his way, so he then can receive a handball back.  You’re allowed to block someone to stop him moving to the next contest

No you're not.

In fact it should have been a 50 metre penalty against May for doing exactly this.

11 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Garbage

Intelligent. 

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Intelligent. 

Off course it was I am the President of Mensa Australia.

18 minutes ago, dieter said:

It happens in a split second. If accidental connection is made to the chin - as it may have been the case in this instance - you need to establish intent. I believe May braced himself and that's where the collision impacted. It's not as though he set out to maim him...

Nup. He didn't set out to 'maim' him. he did try to hurt him. And succeeded.

He is very lucky he didn't get him more on the head, say flush on the nose, which easily could have happened if Berry had dropped even a couple of centimeters more. Something that is completely out of May's control.Then we would be talking high contact and 5-6 weeks. All for what? What did he achieve by bumping him?

3 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Off course it was I am the President of Mensa Australia.

And you manage a spelling mistake in a sentence containing 11 words?

Standards at Mensa Oz must have slipped since i left. 

8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

 

In fact it should have been a 50 metre penalty against May for doing exactly this.

Speaking of 50 metre penalties, the new rule is the invention of an idiot.

The umpires boss one week before the season starts has admitted that the umpires don’t know exactly how to set the mark and the player penalised basically has to let the infringed player run away or play in without any pressure. I am struggling to think of a worse rule.

Just now, binman said:

And you manage a spelling mistake in a sentence containing 11 words?

Standards at Mensa Oz must have slipped since i left. 

It Is based on intelligence, not spelling, any fool can spell correctli.

2 minutes ago, binman said:

Nup. He didn't set out to 'maim' him. he did try to hurt him. And succeeded.

He is very lucky he didn't get him more on the head, say flush on the nose, which easily could have happened if Berry had dropped even a couple of centimeters more. Something that is completely out of May's control.Then we would be talking high contact and 5-6 weeks. All for what? What did he achieve by bumping him?

congrats for trying binman...some on here just don't get the modern game and the all out effort to protect the head.

I hope we haven't got a perennial offender in May. With lists so finely balanced we cannot afford suspensions.This or at the latest next has to be our year.

14 minutes ago, binman said:

You're kidding right. 

No. Disappointed perhaps, for the situation they are in facing selection should he not play. But 'fuming', i think that's a bit of hyperbole.