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The pre-season supplemental selection period

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5 hours ago, Redleg said:

You think we don’t and don’t have input?

You’re the recruiting manager for Casey?

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    8 hours ago, rumpole said:

    You’re the recruiting manager for Casey?

    Who told you?

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    On 11/16/2018 at 9:46 PM, Return to Glory said:

    Is it just me or is Essendrug being gifted a great deal lately, from favorable draw to rule tweaks to accommodate bringing in an experienced ruckman.

    ....and will continue to receive AFL blessings and approvals as sole recipients until the current AFL hierarchy is disbanded and replaced. Already several rule changes have come into play (as these were appropriate for the Essendrug game). 

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    41 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

    ....and will continue to receive AFL blessings and approvals as sole recipients until the current AFL hierarchy is disbanded and replaced. Already several rule changes have come into play (as these were appropriate for the Essendrug game). 

    I would send them to Tassie.

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    21 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

    This seems the best place ATM. I was looking through the new numbers for the players and there was no sign of Corey Wagner on the list.  Am I missing something?

    http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-11-30/jumper-numbers-revealed-for-2019

     

    He couldn't officially join the list until December 1. So I'm guessing they'll announce his signing tomorrow and get him a jumper number after that. 40 and 41 vacant, I'd guess he takes up 41 to be next to his brother. 

    20 hours ago, MikeAlphaTango said:

    Six spots left: Who'll get the last AFL lifelines for 2019?

    The AFL website mentions we have 1 spot left on our list and "industry sources" suggest no teams will enter the season one player short 

    Yeah it's interesting that will didn't fill our list at the rookie draft but I think it's a smart move to wait until closer to March. If we don't want to pay for a player to train with us we might be able to use it as a way to help Casey with recruiting. The best of the under 18's we didn't draft can be told to sign for Casey so we can look at them until March. As well as waiting to see how the team is training and if there's a needed role player on the eve of games.

    It wouldn't shock me if we went in 1 short to save money for some reason. Walker and Bradkte might be relatively expensive and competent B rookies which might have something to do with it. That said, I'd rather fill the list.

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    1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

    He couldn't officially join the list until December 1. So I'm guessing they'll announce his signing tomorrow and get him a jumper number after that. 40 and 41 vacant, I'd guess he takes up 41 to be next to his brother. 

    Yeah it's interesting that will didn't fill our list at the rookie draft but I think it's a smart move to wait until closer to March. If we don't want to pay for a player to train with us we might be able to use it as a way to help Casey with recruiting. The best of the under 18's we didn't draft can be told to sign for Casey so we can look at them until March. As well as waiting to see how the team is training and if there's a needed role player on the eve of games.

    It wouldn't shock me if we went in 1 short to save money for some reason. Walker and Bradkte might be relatively expensive and competent B rookies which might have something to do with it. That said, I'd rather fill the list.

    Thanks DS, seems odd that they would not wait until tomorrow to release the numbers with the whole list accounted for.  By the way, are you considering changing your moniker to DeePreuss?

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    The complexity, rules and everything else associated with the administration of this game is a dogs breakfast. Perhaps I am getting old and cranky and this ever changing landscape is designed by marketing gurus to appeal to a new and young demographic. Increasingly I feel the game is being run by second rate executives who have to have a new soundbight every day to justify their obscene salaries. They think that the lemmings that follow the game have attention spans of half a second  and need instant gratification. This is undoubtedly the future but at the same time something gets destroyed. The essence and soul is destroyed as TV executives, sponsors and all those on the greedy gravy train think it’s progress. 

    Its becoming like reality TV with a blurring of the lines so we don’t really know what’s going on. Simplicity and the fundamentals of sports administration has gone out the window so we now just watch, listen and observe a circus like sport. 

    Ultimately, it will consume itself. The loyal supporters of the game will drift away to be replaced by consumers who will chose their entertainment based on a range of variables. 

    But the true simplicity of the game and its appeal is slipping away each year into the quicksand. 

    And it will not return. Historians will then try and untangle where it all went so wrong. 

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    1 hour ago, hemingway said:

    The complexity, rules and everything else associated with the administration of this game is a dogs breakfast. Perhaps I am getting old and cranky and this ever changing landscape is designed by marketing gurus to appeal to a new and young demographic. Increasingly I feel the game is being run by second rate executives who have to have a new soundbight every day to justify their obscene salaries. They think that the lemmings that follow the game have attention spans of half a second  and need instant gratification. This is undoubtedly the future but at the same time something gets destroyed. The essence and soul is destroyed as TV executives, sponsors and all those on the greedy gravy train think it’s progress. 

    Its becoming like reality TV with a blurring of the lines so we don’t really know what’s going on. Simplicity and the fundamentals of sports administration has gone out the window so we now just watch, listen and observe a circus like sport. 

    Ultimately, it will consume itself. The loyal supporters of the game will drift away to be replaced by consumers who will chose their entertainment based on a range of variables. 

    But the true simplicity of the game and its appeal is slipping away each year into the quicksand. 

    And it will not return. Historians will then try and untangle where it all went so wrong. 

    I don't disagree with a lot of that but much of what the AFL are implementing with list rules and so on is a complicated layer of terms and structure to bring back a simple concept. 

    In this case they are saying instead of drafting all your players in November you can add a player sometime from December to March. They put in some rules, regulations and labels but adding a player over summer is really a return to the pre draft days where you could invite a player down to train and sign them up later on. Compiling your list and not being able to add to it after November isn't a tradition that particularly makes a lot of sense. 

    There's a lot of danger that relaxing list rules makes the circus of of player movement more exciting than the games but there's a balance where giving teams more flexibility with their playing list lets them put a better team together. Better teams = better games and that's the most important thing for the sport. That's what we want to see.

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    20 hours ago, MikeAlphaTango said:

    Six spots left: Who'll get the last AFL lifelines for 2019?

    The AFL website mentions we have 1 spot left on our list and "industry sources" suggest no teams will enter the season one player short 

    That article sounds misguided to me.  To participate in the mid season draft you need one rookie spot free.  I reckon a number of the 6 clubs, including hopefully us, go "one short" so we can have a pick then.  The "one short" wont hurt - we've already got 45 listed players including Cat B and are likely to use only about 30.  Having a mid season pick would allow us to potentially take a Tim Kelly type who emerges at a lower level during the season. If all 6 clubs fill their lists by 1 March then there is no mid season draft AFAIK.

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    3 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

    That article sounds misguided to me.  To participate in the mid season draft you need one rookie spot free.  I reckon a number of the 6 clubs, including hopefully us, go "one short" so we can have a pick then.  The "one short" wont hurt - we've already got 45 listed players including Cat B and are likely to use only about 30.  Having a mid season pick would allow us to potentially take a Tim Kelly type who emerges at a lower level during the season. If all 6 clubs fill their lists by 1 March then there is no mid season draft AFAIK.

    Agree 'Fifty'...it has looked to me as though that has been the plan all along.

    We've basically gone in one down over the last few seasons anyway. Balic was next to a non starter, Harietia (sorry about spelling) disappeared and left us one down and there was another a year or so earlier who escapes me at the moment.

    Of course we might be off the mark and they will take someone next week.

    ...but it makes sense to take someone now if we were going to, then they get the advantage of a full preseason.

    I think one reason we didn't take another ruck is that we've kept a place free for any eventuality.

     

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    Still reckon we'll take a tall hopefully in Hayde n Mclean who was incredibly stiff to miss out.

    Even a mature age midfielder like a Jye Bolton or Mitch Grigg would be handy in case a Viney or Oliver goes down.

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    Of the 6 clubs, 3 have used their pick, so only 3 clubs with one pick left.

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    34 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    Of the 6 clubs, 3 have used their pick, so only 3 clubs with one pick left.

    I don't think that's correct - I believe there's still 6 clubs with picks ...

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    Six clubs – Greater Western Sydney, Melbourne, Carlton, Western Bulldogs, Richmond and Gold Coast – have one list spot vacant, which will almost certainly be filled in the SSP. 

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    The Giants, Demons and Tigers passed twice in the rookie draft, effectively leaving two spots up for grabs. 

    However, all three had each committed one of those to past AFL footballers who would sign in the SSP: Shane Mumford(GWS), Corey Wagner (Melbourne) and Maverick Weller (Richmond).

     

    AFAIK, three of the 6 clubs had 2 vacancies but have committed to one player each, so 6 clubs have one slot left.

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    18 hours ago, Salems Lot said:

    Thanks DS, seems odd that they would not wait until tomorrow to release the numbers with the whole list accounted for.  By the way, are you considering changing your moniker to DeePreuss?

    Unlikely. His history has been to pick a name based on a player who seems to have minimal time left at the club. Whether it's an omen or just bad luck I'm not too sure.

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    46 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    Unlikely. His history has been to pick a name based on a player who seems to have minimal time left at the club. Whether it's an omen or just bad luck I'm not too sure.

    definitely due a new one or is he trying to avoid putting the moz on. (Dee Lewis?)

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    2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

    I don't think that's correct - I believe there's still 6 clubs with picks ...

    AFAIK, three of the 6 clubs had 2 vacancies but have committed to one player each, so 6 clubs have one slot left.

    Sorry, think I misread it.

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    Just now, Redleg said:

    Sorry, think I misread it.

    That's why you have a solicitor.

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