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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-11/new-rules-revealed-nine-changes-for-2019

THE CHANGES

Traditional playing positions at centre bounces

  • Clubs must have six players inside both 50m arcs, with one player inside the goalsquare.
  • Four midfield players must start inside the centre square with the two wingmen stationed along the wing.  

Kick-ins

  • At kick-ins, a player will no longer need to kick to himself to play on from the goalsquare.
  • Following a behind, the man on the mark will be brought out to 10m from the top of the goalsquare, rather than the existing five metres.  

Marks and free kicks in defence  

  • When defenders mark or receive a free kick within nine metres of their own goal, the man on the mark will be brought in line with the top of the goalsquare.

Runners and water carriers

  • Team runners may only enter the playing surface after a goal has been kicked and must exit before play restarts.
  • Water carriers are not permitted to enter the playing surface during live play.

Umpire contact

  • Players will be prohibited from setting up behind the umpire at centre bounces. 

50m penalties

  • The player with the ball: 
    • Must be allowed to advance the mark by 50m without the infringing player delaying the game.
    • Will be able to play on while the 50m penalty is being measured out. 

Kicking for goal after the siren 

  • A player who has been awarded a mark or free kick once play has ended: 
    • Will now be able to kick across their body using a snap or check-side kick 
    • BUT must kick the ball directly in line with the man on the mark and the goal. 

Marking contests

  • The 'hands in the back’ rule interpretation has been repealed so a player can now:
    • Place his hands on the back of his opponent to protect his position in a marking contest
    • PROVIDED he does not push his opponent in the back.

Ruck contests: prior opportunity

  • A ruckman who takes direct possession of the ball from a bounce, throw-up or boundary throw-in will no longer be regarded as having had prior opportunity.
  • Where there is uncertainty over who is the designated ruckman, the ruckman for each team will still be required to nominate to the field umpire. 

All the rules explained here:

Posted (edited)

Nothing major from what I can see. Be interesting to see how the hands in the back rule is enforced. I imagine Ben Brown will be throwing himself forward even more now. 

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50m penalties

  • The player with the ball: 
    • Must be allowed to advance the mark by 50m without the infringing player delaying the game.
    • Will be able to play on while the 50m penalty is being measured out. 

 that is a [censored] rule, will cause all kinds of problems  and will slow the game down as you will have to closely watch the player with the penalty as he is running his 50.

 

so, they are keeping the [censored] sliding rule as well. (remember that crap where brayshaw got penalized for getting kicked in the head - 

 

and not fixing the 3rd man up rubbish (so simple, 2 go up, if a third goes up, penalize...

 

 

 

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I can't believe they left the ruck rules the same. everyone  knows how to fix it, and probably one of the few that has almost complete consensus.....

 

 

also surprised the left interchange the same (I don't mind it but I am surprised.)

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Umpire contact

  • Players will be prohibited from setting up behind the umpire at centre bounces. 

How do you suppose they police that one?????

 

 

Marks and free kicks in defence  

  • When defenders mark or receive a free kick within nine metres of their own goal, the man on the mark will be brought in line with the top of the goalsquare.

confusing and pointless.

 

Marking contests

  • The 'hands in the back’ rule interpretation has been repealed so a player can now:
    • Place his hands on the back of his opponent to protect his position in a marking contest
    • PROVIDED he does not push his opponent in the back.

yet another one that will be difficult for the umpires to police, what constitutes a push ( as soon as I felt hands on my back I would lurch forward as I had been pushed.)

 

 

Ruck contests: prior opportunity

  • A ruckman who takes direct possession of the ball from a bounce, throw-up or boundary throw-in will no longer be regarded as having had prior opportunity.
  • Where there is uncertainty over who is the designated ruckman, the ruckman for each team will still be required to nominate to the field umpire. 

And if your ruckman is off the ground???????>

 

 

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They've just made the game harder to umpire and not done anything to change the crowding around the ball.

666 is only at centre bounces when the game is at it's most open with the centre square anyway.

How ridiculous...

So much for this serious work that Gerrard kept going on about.

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One rule change can cause confusion, but this many in one hit ?

More confusion, more free kicks, frustrated players and supporters.

More impact on the game, the contest and the result.  

More spotlight on the umpires. Even more officious. 

Razor Ray and the others will love this. 


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17 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

 

  • Where there is uncertainty over who is the designated ruckman, the ruckman for each team will still be required to nominate to the field umpire. 

And if your ruckman is off the ground???????>

 

 

I think this means if no one nominates you don't have a ruckman for that contest.

Edit: I like the new ruck rule regarding taking the ball from the ruck is not prior opportunity. More snapped goals from Max at boundary throw ins a la Schwarta.

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5 minutes ago, ManDee said:

I think this means if no one nominates you don't have a ruckman for that contest.

Edit: I like the new ruck rule regarding taking the ball from the ruck is not prior opportunity. More snapped goals from Max at boundary throw ins a la Schwarta.

we have that farce now...

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The 6-6-6 starting rule will really benefit teams who are strong at centre clearances, which is great for us.

A quick centre clearance will give you a very good chance of scoring.

I think this is why we will want to use Preuss and Gawn in tandem. It will give us a good chance to win the majority of centre clearances.

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37 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

50m penalties

  • The player with the ball: 
    • Must be allowed to advance the mark by 50m without the infringing player delaying the game.
    • Will be able to play on while the 50m penalty is being measured out. 

 that is a [censored] rule, will cause all kinds of problems  and will slow the game down as you will have to closely watch the player with the penalty as he is running his 50.

 

so, they are keeping the [censored] sliding rule as well. (remember that crap where brayshaw got penalized for getting kicked in the head - 

 

and not fixing the 3rd man up rubbish (so simple, 2 go up, if a third goes up, penalize...

 

 

 

Thsee rule changes together are an absolute cluster.  Not only are the allowed to play on, but you are not allowed to impede them as they are going back.

I can see this as having a number of consequences:

1.  Upmires paying 2 x 50m penalties;

2. 50m penalties will turn into 60m penalties as players will inevitably work out that you can crimp an extra 10m for free by playing on.

Might as well just make it a "have a free shot at goal" penalty  (perhaps the equivilent of corner short in soccer;  No not really, I hate turing Aussie Rules into another sport).

50m penalties are already a big enough  blight on the game for the inconsistency with which they are paid, particularly with the protected zone stuff which was bought in.  The huge impacts they can have on the outcome of games is undesirable in most instances.  This will make the situation even worse.

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51 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Kick-ins

  • At kick-ins, a player will no longer need to kick to himself to play on from the goalsquare.
  • Following a behind, the man on the mark will be brought out to 10m from the top of the goalsquare, rather than the existing five metres

I don't get this one , a point gets scored and defensive team can just run it in handball kick whatever from any position behind the goal line. Meanwhile attacking team (now defensive) will have the umpire calling them back to be 10m away from the goal square. 

PLayer kicking in should always have to go through the square and what if the kicking in team decides to kick in before player has a chance to run back to 10m will that be a free kick? 

 

 

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Also if I see a 100m penalty against viney like the one they showed in the example I will loose my S$%t .

deadset ridiculous. The in the back is going to be horrible as well. I though the dangerfield example was a clear pushing motion and the Cripps wasn't . But hey extra allowance for Danger is standard 

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2 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

I don't get this one , a point gets scored and defensive team can just run it in handball kick whatever from any position behind the goal line. Meanwhile attacking team (now defensive) will have the umpire calling them back to be 10m away from the goal square. 

PLayer kicking in should always have to go through the square and what if the kicking in team decides to kick in before player has a chance to run back to 10m will that be a free kick?  

You can bet we'll be on the wrong end of one of these frees early in the season.

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Runners and water carriers

  • Team runners may only enter the playing surface after a goal has been kicked and must exit before play restarts.
  • Water carriers are not permitted to enter the playing surface during live play.

 

you watch someone collapse from heatstroke in the Darwin game now.  Sues afl for workplace safety breaches, we all giggle.


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17 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

The 6-6-6 starting rule will really benefit teams who are strong at centre clearances, which is great for us.

A quick centre clearance will give you a very good chance of scoring.

I think this is why we will want to use Preuss and Gawn in tandem. It will give us a good chance to win the majority of centre clearances.

I like your thinking, but I am concerned that the way the rule has been implemented with all 6 players inside 50m will just create a more conjested forward 50m zone to start with.  The way it is being phrased is not correct in my view either it's not traditional to have all 6 players inside forward 50.  I think I could quite easily handle one player in the square, 3 inside 50 and the other 3 being along the front edge of the square as being traditional, but not all 6 inside 50.

I caveat all that with this disclaimer that I haven't seen any trial of all 6 starting inside 50.  If others and the AFL have actually seen this and can conclude that it works, then I'd be ok with the rule.  But on the basis of the recient relative AFL incompetence in making rule changes, I have significant doubts.

Personally I would prefer the AFL to keep progressively winding back the permissible number of rotations, I think that would be the most effective way of decreasing congestion.

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50m penalties

  • The player with the ball: 
    • Must be allowed to advance the mark by 50m without the infringing player delaying the game.
    • Will be able to play on while the 50m penalty is being measured out. 

How are supposed to watch your opponent while the 50 is being measured out.... we are going to see the defending player running backwards like a bloody umpire.

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Just now, red and blue forever said:

Runners and water carriers

  • Team runners may only enter the playing surface after a goal has been kicked and must exit before play restarts.
  • Water carriers are not permitted to enter the playing surface during live play.

 

you watch someone collapse from heatstroke in the Darwin game now.  Sues afl for workplace safety breaches, we all giggle.

You would hope that it's applied with some comon sense, but I can also see huge potential for sperilous free kicks if it is umpired in an overzealous manner.

You would hope that runners exiting before play restarts would be applied so as a runner that is 40m+ away and running towards the boundary when play is restarting is not penalized.

 Generally though this rule is somewhat overdue though.

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Also no changes to the tripping/below the knees rule?

That penalty paid against Brawshaw in the Hawks semi was an absolute discrace, but arguably within the rules.

I agree with Paul Roos, the rule was bought in to protect players from sliding, not from stopping them from going for the ball.

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35 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

50m penalties

  • The player with the ball: 
    • Must be allowed to advance the mark by 50m without the infringing player delaying the game.
    • Will be able to play on while the 50m penalty is being measured out. 

How are supposed to watch your opponent while the 50 is being measured out.... we are going to see the defending player running backwards like a bloody umpire.

I might be wrong here as well but doesn't the ump blow time off when he pays 50. 

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