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Josh Mahoney - Trade Radio 2/10/18

Watts the matter
Watts the matter
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Have seen a few mentions popping up in different threads and just wanted to get it all in one place.

Would be great if someone could post what was discussed. 

What I took from it:

- Happy enough for Tyson and Kent to explore options

- Rate Vandenberg higher than the above and would like him to stay, but for personal reasons is exploring his options in Sydney

- No play for May with Hogan still on the list, up to Hogan

- Jayden Hunt won't be traded 

-Confired interest in Kade Kolodjashnij

More discussion going on now post interview with Mahoney.

Edit to include audio link.

https://omny.fm/shows/trade-radio/josh-mahoney-on-nab-trade-radio-4

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    A very interesting interview with Josh Mahoney, Watts the matter. I caught it by luck...very interesting!

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    Gripping 15 minutes. The more I hear and see what our back room team do, the more comfortable I am with the direction of our club. We are in good hands! Clear and concise. Brilliant.

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    Does anyone know if they post these interviews somewhere afterwards?  

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    For those DemonLanders interested, the MFC have put a transcript of the interview on the MFC twitter account. Well worth having a look at.

     

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    35 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

    Also, that we still ask the question about Gaff, but have been told for a while now that it's a no go.

    What was the actual quote, because that's a very clever way of saying previously it was a no go, but now things may have changed...

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    Just now, It's Time said:

    Does anyone know if they post these interviews somewhere afterwards?  

    Yes they do on Twitter mate, there is also a message for each topic. Go to AFLTradeRadio, If I see it I'll put it up for you

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    3 minutes ago, A F said:

    What was the actual quote, because that's a very clever way of saying previously it was a no go, but now things may have changed...

    Direct quote from twitter:

    Mahoney on Andrew Gaff: We don't stop asking the question, but we've been told to stay away for a period of time.

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    2 minutes ago, A F said:

    What was the actual quote, because that's a very clever way of saying previously it was a no go, but now things may have changed...

    "We don't stop asking the question, but we've been told stay away for a fair period of time, so we are reading what you guys are reading on that"

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    26 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

    "We don't stop asking the question, but we've been told stay away for a fair period of time, so we are reading what you guys are reading on that"

    Thanks mate. So yeah, that is a very clever way of potentially saying we've been told no for a period of time, but it says nothing about the present or the future. I reckon we're still in with a play for Gaff.

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    Dead bat. Gave nothing away.

    The one thing we can glean is that we are more than prepared to call Freo’s bluff and have Hogan play out his contract in 2019. If they try and lowball us.

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    So basically, unless Freo comes to the party with their 2 first rounders nothing is getting done.

     

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    I was under the understanding that if Hogan walks next year we don't get anything for him so if we do want some compensation we have to trade him this year. Am I wrong? 

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    2 minutes ago, swiss said:

    I was under the understanding that if Hogan walks next year we don't get anything for him so if we do want some compensation we have to trade him this year. Am I wrong? 

    No guarantee that Freo gets him next year, he may decide to stay or go to WCE or even replace Buddy @ Sydney on massive $$. If they don't deal now they may not get him, ever. But your point is right re trade picks but we 'd receive AFL compensation, not so good for a Premiership team.

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    19 minutes ago, swiss said:

    I was under the understanding that if Hogan walks next year we don't get anything for him so if we do want some compensation we have to trade him this year. Am I wrong? 

    No a club would still have to come up with a trade offer next year. However because the player is coming off contract we wouldn’t hold as strong a hand in 2019 as we do now. For example Hogan’s manager could threaten to walk him through to the PSD next year. Not an option he has now. Say Freo finish 12th next year and have pick 6 in the draft to offer us. That’s all you’re probably going to get. Possibly even worse if it’s a West Coast he ends up nominating. Then you’re getting a pick 15+ and not much else.

    The opportunity cost to Freo for securing a gun key forward now is the extra top 10 pick. I can’t believe they would go to these lengths to pry Hogan off our list whilst still under contract and not at least tacitly understand this.

    If they’re coming to the bargaining table with pick 5 and chump change then Hogan will be playing in the forward 50 for Melbourne next year. And Fyfe can keep looking up and still have no-one decent to kick the pill to!

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    10 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

    No a club would still have to come up with a trade offer next year. However because the player is coming off contract we wouldn’t hold as strong a hand in 2019 as we do now. For example Hogan’s manager could threaten to walk him through to the PSD next year. Not an option he has now. Say Freo finish 12th next year and have pick 6 in the draft to offer us. That’s all you’re probably going to get. Possibly even worse if it’s a West Coast he ends up nominating. Then you’re getting a pick 15+ and not much else.

    The opportunity cost to Freo for securing a gun key forward now is the extra top 10 pick. I can’t believe they would go to these lengths to pry Hogan off our list whilst still under contract and not at least tacitly understand this.

    If they’re coming to the bargaining table with pick 5 and chump change then Hogan will be playing in the forward 50 for Melbourne next year.

    No

    He's an rfa

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    3 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

    No

    He's an rfa

    No he's not, was first on an AFL list in 2014, so will only have 7 years of service at the end of next year. That's the same way the AFL treated the GC guys who were pre-listed so Hogan will be the same. 

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    Mahoney was born for this role, hes been magnificent for the club.

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    1 hour ago, DSP said:

    So basically, unless Freo comes to the party with their 2 first rounders (that we want) nothing is getting done.

     

    And that's the way it should be.

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    Interesting. My major takeaways:

    1. Hogan out, May in has to be at least 70% I think. And they must feel confident that they'll land May. Sounds like they had him lined up as a major target post 2019 season.

    2. Preuss is either not a lock or they are willing to negotiate hard with North to get him for a good price. I wonder who the other options are?

    3. They know they need more outside class and pace. Lots of mentions of balancing the list. Think it takes more than just Kade Kolo to achieve that, very keen to see who else is on the target list.

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