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1 hour ago, rjay said:

 

Love Robbie Gray but at 31yo start of next season if you look at the Lewis & Mitchell trades he would be worth peanuts on the trade table.

Pick 51/87 or a trade for Garlett should get it done...

...and yes I'm not serious but I don't think Port are either.

Robbie Grey + pick 10 for Pick 5 would do it, we get Grey for 1 or 2 years, and PA get a shot at a SA gun

 

7 senior spots + Tyson, Kent & Hoges, reckon VDB stays

1. May

2. KK

3. Preuss

4. Bedford

5. TSmith (upgrade)

6. Bedford

7. Pick 33

8. Pick 43

9. Pick 50

10. - 

 

Buckle in for a long turbulent ride through the trade period.

Marcus Adams nominating Brisbane complicates matters for us because it will impact the Neale trade and make Collingwood more keen on May.  The Hogan and Neale deals are linked, however much we might want them to be separate.

The KK deal will probably be linked to the May deal too.

Lobb apparently nominating Freo only complicates things further.

Gaff not going to Norf probably means they are less desperate to move Preuss on for salary cap relief.

I expect we'll be stalemated on the Hogan, May, KK and Preuss deals until other clubs resolve their deals.  The only things we might hear progress on are the ones we don't want to hear like VDB and Kent.

Strap in for plenty of poster pre-trade hysteria.

Edited by Fifty-5

 
6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Buckle in for a long turbulent ride through the trade period.

Marcus Adams nominating Brisbane complicates matters for us because it will impact the Neale trade and make Collingwood more keen on May.  The Hogan and Neale deals are linked, however much we might want them to be separate.

The KK deal will probably be linked to the May deal too.

Lobb apparently nominating Freo only complicates things further.

I expect we'll be stalemated on the Hogan, May and KK deals until other clubs resolve their deals.  The only things we might hear progress on are the ones we don't want to hear like VDB and Kent.

Strap in for plenty of poster pre-trade hysteria.

I can do Bells job for him right now... 

Trade 1: 

Neale to Brisbane for pick 5. 

Trade 2: 

Pick 5 & 2019 first to  Melbourne for Hogan & 2019 second

Trade 3: 

Pick 6 to GWS for Rory Lobb and a second

Trade 4: 

Pick 5 to GCS for MAY & KK 

 

I think Losing Neale would mean that Freo will be finishing around the same mark again next year even with Lobb & Hogan. 

But for years to come once their young mid guns mature with that forward line they will be very good. 

8 minutes ago, GCDee said:

I can do Bells job for him right now... 

Trade 1: 

Neale to Brisbane for pick 5. 

Trade 2: 

Pick 5 & 2019 first to  Melbourne for Hogan & 2019 second

Trade 3: 

Pick 6 to GWS for Rory Lobb and a second

Trade 4: 

Pick 5 to GCS for MAY & KK 

 

I think Losing Neale would mean that Freo will be finishing around the same mark again next year even with Lobb & Hogan. 

But for years to come once their young mid guns mature with that forward line they will be very good. 

Lobb isn't going to get a top 10 draft pick.


7 minutes ago, GCDee said:

I can do Bells job for him right now... 

Trade 1: 

Neale to Brisbane for pick 5. 

Trade 2: 

Pick 5 & 2019 first to  Melbourne for Hogan & 2019 second

Trade 3: 

Pick 6 to GWS for Rory Lobb and a second

Trade 4: 

Pick 5 to GCS for MAY & KK 

 

I think Losing Neale would mean that Freo will be finishing around the same mark again next year even with Lobb & Hogan. 

But for years to come once their young mid guns mature with that forward line they will be very good. 

Sounds nice but won't happen.

Freo have already said a single 1st rounder is not enough for Neale and who can blame them when he has finished 1, 2, 1 in their BnF over the past 3 years.  Then there's no way they will want to trade both top 10 picks this year - they will want to retain one for sure and that means doing some later pick deal for Lobb - and they only have 6 and 79 right now.

Just now, ProDee said:

Lobb isn't going to get a top 10 draft pick.

Lobb & a second which would value him 12+ which I would say is about right. 

1 minute ago, GCDee said:

Lobb & a second which would value him 12+ which I would say is about right. 

Forget the points.  They can't be used to value every trade.

 
57 minutes ago, Turner said:

7 senior spots + Tyson, Kent & Hoges, reckon VDB stays

1. May

2. KK

3. Preuss

4. Bedford

5. TSmith (upgrade)

6. Bedford

7. Pick 33

8. Pick 43

9. Pick 50

10. - 

 

We would hopefully have another high draft pick from freo

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Geelong Cats have traded Lincoln McCarthy, Rd 3 (54), Rd 4 (57) to the Brisbane Lions for Rd 3 (42), Rd 4 (60

Getting in deeper.  Brisbane's pick hand weakened further with this trade and they now have 5, 23, 54, 57 for Neale and Adams.  Brisbane's future picks will have to be on the table - they'll be banking on improving next year too which is very reasonable.

Edited by Fifty-5


2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Getting in deeper.  Brisbane's pick hand weakened further with this trade and they now have 5, 23, 54, 57 for Neale and Adams.  Brisbane's future picks will have to be on the table - they'll be banking on improving next year too which is very reasonable.

42 now at Carlton from AFL Trade Talk:

Quote

 

SANFL TALL NATHAN KRUEGER 
 
"That's correct, we have done a deal with Carlton."
 
"We have given them the Lions' pick for McCarthy, and there's some other picks involved as well ... we've on-traded it to Carlton.

 

 

On 10/4/2018 at 8:31 PM, layzie said:

Oh you know, might be a quirking idea to keep someone we’ve put a lot of time into developing as a one on one defender as a rookie and like, hmmm avoid MORE list turnover. Just a thought though, don’t let it get in the way of the spring clean out attitude. 

 

On 10/5/2018 at 9:06 AM, layzie said:

Well they do know best at the end of the day. Personally thought there might have been enough for a rookie spot but that's an armchair opinion. 

Dion’s club mentor, one Neville Jetta was delisted and re rookied....and what a disaster that turned out to be.

Harley Bennell

 

Love for yes

Angry for no

Is there a way we can package up pick 62 and 65 to one of the clubs looking to accrue points? I could probably work it myself, but the hard bit is knowing which clubs want the points and what they’ve already got.

Looking at the chart, I think if we package them up with one more lower pick (pick 50), we should be able to get in to the top 30, which would be a decent result. I don’t know if there are any buyers out there though. In: Preuss, top 30 pick. Out: Kent, Tyson, pick 50.


14 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Is there a way we can package up pick 62 and 65 to one of the clubs looking to accrue points? I could probably work it myself, but the hard bit is knowing which clubs want the points and what they’ve already got.

Looking at the chart, I think if we package them up with one more lower pick (pick 50), we should be able to get in to the top 30, which would be a decent result. I don’t know if there are any buyers out there though. In: Preuss, top 30 pick. Out: Kent, Tyson, pick 50.

Off the top of my head - Sydney, Pies and (I think North) have a father son.  I think Brisbane have an Affiliated Academy player.  North have an NGA player.  All those are points based.   But I think Syd and Brisb have already traded themselves into a position to draft those players. 

So North and Pies the most likely candidates for a pick upgrade package.

Also, we might take Toby Bedford as our NGA so we might keep points to draft him rather than use a 'real' pick for him. 

 

As an aside, we might be keeping our really, really late (80 +) picks to draft our rookies T Smith, Keilty, depending on how the trade period works our/how many players we want on our senior list.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero

16 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Is there a way we can package up pick 62 and 65 to one of the clubs looking to accrue points? I could probably work it myself, but the hard bit is knowing which clubs want the points and what they’ve already got.

Looking at the chart, I think if we package them up with one more lower pick (pick 50), we should be able to get in to the top 30, which would be a decent result. I don’t know if there are any buyers out there though. In: Preuss, top 30 pick. Out: Kent, Tyson, pick 50.

North have a father son (30+) and an academy (5-15). But if they were going to give us the better pick they probably would've done it by now.

Collingwood have an academy (10-30), a father son (20-40) and even another later academy. Could be an option but they might not have many list spaces.

This draft is very shallow, teams won't want to give up good picks for trash unless it's a huge point win.

I think our best option is to wait until draft night and do some live trades. Use picks in the 60's to move up a few marginal spots with the better 3 picks we already have to get 3 players we want.

Then fill the list with extra rookie spots or delisted players. Guys like McKenna, Flippers, Max King and DJ never really gave us anything. We aren't losing ground if we replace them with similar gambles. Sure it would be nice to replace them with quality but give me the best 40 players we can find and worry about the last 4 spots.

30 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Is there a way we can package up pick 62 and 65 to one of the clubs looking to accrue points? I could probably work it myself, but the hard bit is knowing which clubs want the points and what they’ve already got.

Looking at the chart, I think if we package them up with one more lower pick (pick 50), we should be able to get in to the top 30, which would be a decent result. I don’t know if there are any buyers out there though. In: Preuss, top 30 pick. Out: Kent, Tyson, pick 50.

Those 2 picks are worth 213 points or around pick pick 55, so maybe we could get a lower 50s pick but it won't be anything brilliant. These type of deals are the back end (steak knives) to other player trades, or will be the ones that get worked out after the player trade period finishes on Wednesday - there's an extra 2 days for picks to be traded. 

Pick trading can continue after the Trade period deadline and also at the Draft so there's no rush.

The AFL scrapped having to use picks for rookie upgrade @Lucifer's Hero - anyway it doesn't really matter because they are the last picks so it's academic - could be pick 128 and 144.

Just now, Fifty-5 said:

Pick trading can continue after the Trade period deadline and also at the Draft so there's no rush.

The AFL scrapped having to use picks for rookie upgrade @Lucifer's Hero - anyway it doesn't really matter because they are the last picks so it's academic - could be pick 128 and 144.

Are you sure the need for picks to draft rookies to the seniors list has been scrapped?

The last I recall is an existing rookie can play in the seniors without waiting for a LTI to be 'upgraded' during the season but they aren't a listed player as such (ie very different contract) unless drafted as such.  Hence the use of pick 80 + and agree they could be pick 128 or 144 etc. to draft them.

Would be happy to learn more.  Cheers.


2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Are you sure the need for picks to draft rookies to the seniors list has been scrapped?

The last I recall is an existing rookie can play in the seniors without waiting for a LTI to be 'upgraded' during the season but they aren't a listed player as such (ie very different contract) unless drafted as such.  Hence the use of pick 80 + and agree they could be pick 128 or 144 etc. to draft them.

Would be happy to learn more.  Cheers.

Pretty sure - will search for confirmation article and post here.

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Pretty sure - will search for confirmation article and post here.

Nope looks like I was wrong @Lucifer's Hero - rule is as it always was ...

From AFL Rules at http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL Tenant/AFL/Files/AFL-Rules-June-2017.PDF

Quote

(b) Primary List A Club may apply to the AFL to transfer a Player or Players from its Rookie List onto its Primary List: (i) on the day when its Primary List is lodged with the AFL prior to the National Draft Selection Meeting under Rule 6.1 by lodging with the AFL the form prescribed in Schedule 1 as Form 33. In which case, the Club shall forfeit its last selection or, if more than one player, its last and each previous draft selection at the National AFL Draft Selection meeting.

 

So who the hell are we getting in to fill all our empty list spots??? 

Let's give Tommy bugg a call back? 

 

12th October wrap up.

8 delisted/retired. 36 spots 

Vandenburg resigns ?

2 traded out. Kent and Tyson. 

1 traded in. Preuss. 

Likely trade in Kade Kolodjashnij.

?? Hogan hopefully he stays and tears it apart in 2019.  Likely retain  

xx Steven May. Not considered given Hogan to stay  

Keilty upgrade to senior list  

Back to 36 spots.  Need more pace and run. Another ball winning Midfielder for depth.  Need backup small defender as backup for Jetta.  

Probably:  

+1 delisted free agent

+5 draftees. # 36  46  54 62  65

+2 rookies.  # 15, 33

19 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

12th October wrap up.

8 delisted/retired. 36 spots 

Vandenburg resigns ?

2 traded out. Kent and Tyson. 

1 traded in. Preuss. 

Likely trade in Kade Kolodjashnij.

?? Hogan hopefully he stays and tears it apart in 2019.  Likely retain  

xx Steven May. Not considered given Hogan to stay  

Keilty upgrade to senior list  

Back to 36 spots.  Need more pace and run. Another ball winning Midfielder for depth.  Need backup small defender as backup for Jetta.  

Probably:  

+1 delisted free agent

+5 draftees. # 36  46  54 62  65

+2 rookies.  # 15, 33

can't see us picking up a delisted free agent or 5 draftees. It will be a slightly more empty list than previously but thats not a bad thing because instead of paying 40 blokes a more spread out amount we have 35 blokes who are paid a little bit more and perform a lot more than the other 5 spots would.

Bedford wont be drafted with a pick therefore most likely picks 62&65 will be towards him when a bid comes so only drafting 4 players is a pretty decent crack in a strong draft and with KK on the way too and maybe, a very big maybe on Ben Long from StK.


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