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2 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Interesting trade suggestion BA. I floated same some months ago but the ‘Trade Petracca’ thread I started was shut down by the mods. Deemed too radical at the time. Funny how a Trade Brayshaw thread was allowed soon thereafter but there you go. But that’s another story.

Now the facts are we sit 17th on the ladder with a patently dysfunctional (politest word I can come up with) forward line with a dearth of genuine targets to kick to and straighten us up. Something’s got to give.

If Petracca could be floated out there in aid of us landing say a Ben Brown I would look at it. I would look at it very closely. Especially if it meant we could use next year’s first round pick in trade and hold on to this year’s pick 2.

We’ve got to get creative and bold this off season. Forget finals if we try and play a safe hand. Can’t roll with Weideman and TMac again. No way Josè.

I’m all for Brown but not at the expense of our first pick. When people want to criticise the team the same names are always thrown up ie ANB, OMac....etc etc. For a pick 2 with all of his physical attributes Petracca possesses, he has been a massive disappointment for me, and is yet to totally dominate a game from start to finish. I don’t believe this is a Goodwin issue, I just think he’s not that good. I would be all in for trading Petracca for an established player not another 1st rd pick.

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    7 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    I’m all for Brown but not at the expense of our first pick. When people want to criticise the team the same names are always thrown up ie ANB, OMac....etc etc. For a pick 2 with all of his physical attributes Petracca possesses, he has been a massive disappointment for me, and is yet to totally dominate a game from start to finish. I don’t believe this is a Goodwin issue, I just think he’s not that good. I would be all in for trading Petracca for an established player not another 1st rd pick.

    Would you consider our 2020 first round pick + Petracca for Brown? Back ourselves to get back in the 8 in 2020 thereby making that first rounder more in the 11 - 18 range.

    That would be a fair deal I reckon. Allows us to keep pick 2. 

    I agree with you on Petracca. I think we should trade now while his cachet is still pretty decent. 

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    10 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Would you consider our 2020 first round pick + Petracca for Brown? Back ourselves to get back in the 8 in 2020 thereby making that first rounder more in the 11 - 18 range.

    That would be a fair deal I reckon. Allows us to keep pick 2. 

    I agree with you on Petracca. I think we should trade now while his cachet is still pretty decent. 

    Most definitely, was thinking something similar myself. Also means we keep our 2nd rd pick.

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    22 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    Most definitely, was thinking something similar myself. Also means we keep our 2nd rd pick.

    I wonder if we could tempt the Eagles to part with one of their young pacy goal sneaks - Petrucelle, Jarrod Cameron etc - in exchange for Weideman. Or one of Richmond’s. With Kennedy and Riewoldt respectively both nearing the end they might bite. Petrucelle would be a great get.

    F: Petrucelle Brown Melksham

    HF: Fritsch TMac Pick 2

     

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    44 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Would you consider our 2020 first round pick + Petracca for Brown?

     

    33 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    Most definitely, was thinking something similar myself. Also means we keep our 2nd rd pick.

    Haha, I'm out.

    Enjoy fellas.

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    11 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

     

    Haha, I'm out.

    Enjoy fellas.

    Ok course you’re out, because you can’t answer the question.

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    While people are tossing away Petracca it might be worth mentioning that since his form turnaround starting in round 8 this season, Petracca has managed:

    16 goals (1.5), 22 tackles (2.0), 42 inside 50s (3.8), and 27 clearances (2.5), with a tick over 20 disposals a game.

    When it comes to that kind of combination of goalkicking as well as effective involvement in general play, you are talking about a very short list.

    Jordan De Goey, Michael Walters, Toby Green, Robbie Gray, Gary Ablett Jr, Isaac Heeney, and Christian Petracca.

    Petracca is right in that mix of priceless players and we'd be mad to trade him just as he's getting it together.

     

    Also...

    Tom McDonald's 2018 season as a forward was better than any season of Ben Brown's.

    Just saying. Maybe persevere with that rather than go for the panic-buy of a disgraceful stager.

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    9 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    While people are tossing away Petracca it might be worth mentioning that since his form turnaround starting in round 8 this season, Petracca has managed:

    16 goals (1.5), 22 tackles (2.0), 42 inside 50s (3.8), and 27 clearances (2.5), with a tick over 20 disposals a game.

    When it comes to that kind of combination of goalkicking as well as effective involvement in general play, you are talking about a very short list.

    Jordan De Goey, Michael Walters, Toby Green, Robbie Gray, Gary Ablett Jr, Isaac Heeney, and Christian Petracca.

    Petracca is right in that mix of priceless players and we'd be mad to trade him just as he's getting it together.

     

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    Tom McDonald's 2018 season as a forward was better than any season of Ben Brown's.

    Just saying. Maybe persevere with that rather than go for the panic-buy of a disgraceful stager.

    Persevere with a structure that’s seen the worst forward line return and conversion rate since stats were recorded and a ladder position of 17th? Great idea LG. Rest of the comp will be shuddering with fear.

    And your statement about TMac’s 2018 being better than anything Ben Brown has produced is factually incorrect. TMac kicked 53 goals in 2018. Brown has kicked 60+ ... TWICE!

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    Petracca has done remarkably well this year considering how poorly we have played as a team. He will continue to get better in the next couple of years. We all know he can be frustrating at times, but trading him would be sheer madness

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    4 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Interesting trade suggestion BA. I floated same some months ago but the ‘Trade Petracca’ thread I started was shut down by the mods. Deemed too radical at the time. Funny how a Trade Brayshaw thread was allowed soon thereafter but there you go. But that’s another story.

    Now the facts are we sit 17th on the ladder with a patently dysfunctional (politest word I can come up with) forward line with a dearth of genuine targets to kick to and straighten us up. Something’s got to give.

    If Petracca could be floated out there in aid of us landing say a Ben Brown I would look at it. I would look at it very closely. Especially if it meant we could use next year’s first round pick in trade and hold on to this year’s pick 2.

    We’ve got to get creative and bold this off season. Forget finals if we try and play a safe hand. Can’t roll with Weideman and TMac again. No way Josè.

    And yet TMac and Weed were instrumental in us winning 2 finals last year. I think I will roll with it

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    1 minute ago, bobby1554 said:

    And yet TMac and Weed were instrumental in us winning 2 finals last year. I think I will roll with it

    I like your posts and ideas by the way

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    16 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Petracca has done remarkably well this year considering how poorly we have played as a team. He will continue to get better in the next couple of years. We all know he can be frustrating at times, but trading him would be sheer madness

    Interesting. Just two weeks ago your post in the Trade Brayshaw thread on the subject of MFC trades. :laugh:

    On 6/18/2019 at 7:17 PM, Moonshadow said:

    Gus no.

    Trac yes.

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    Context.

    Trading him to get Brown would be sheer madness is what I meant. That's what this thread has been discussing. 

    Only Oliver and Gawn are absolutely untradable.

    We are better with a fit Trac in the side.

    Brown at the Dees would struggle more than Tmac or Weid have this year. A predominantly lead up forward in a team that only knows how to long bomb. Recipe for disaster.

     

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    12 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    How about all of us agree to get back to just playing the ball not the man hey?

    Hard to do so when Range Rover refuses

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    43 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    Didn't @Demonland give you a month for baiting recently?

    It was a pretty sweet month wasn’t it?

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    A first round pick and Petracca for Brown. Wow. 

    Brown is a FA next season, why would you give up next seasons first round pick (or this years for that matter) plus Petracca for him? Ludicrous. 

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    16 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    It was a pretty sweet month wasn’t it?

    DL was much more enjoyable for that month indeed. Now most threads become hijacked with dribble. 

    Edited by Ethan Tremblay

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    Brown barely touched it so far. 

    First contest he threw his body forward looking for a free kick. Typical soft play for him

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    Looking at the likely clubs to have pick 3...

    Carlton really don't need a KPF, although Adelaide have their pick. They might be an option.

    Sydney if Buddy stands up with Reid probably unlikely to trade pick 3

    ...and I can't see North trading for their own player.

    Not sure why we're discussing other clubs trades, this thread is probably better on Bigfooty...

    Edited by rjay

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    6 hours ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Interesting trade suggestion BA. I floated same some months ago but the ‘Trade Petracca’ thread I started was shut down by the mods. Deemed too radical at the time. Funny how a Trade Brayshaw thread was allowed soon thereafter but there you go. But that’s another story.

     

    Can I confirm this is actually what happened ? Because if so it’s like seeing what Ricky Gervais was saying in his Sam Harris interview come to life

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    8 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

    Can I confirm this is actually what happened ? Because if so it’s like seeing what Ricky Gervais was saying in his Sam Harris interview come to life

    Confirmed. 

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    2 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

    Confirmed. 

    So a thread was shut down because someone didn’t like what you were saying ? ( this assumes an absence of baiting or any other forum Rule breaking ).

     

    am I missing something ?  

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    Just now, Superunknown said:

    So a thread was shut down because someone didn’t like what you were saying ? ( this assumes an absence of baiting or any other forum Rule breaking ).

     

    am I missing something ?  

    Correct. Started a Trade Petracca thread but was called a “troll” by the usual suspects and the thread was deleted by mods.

    One of those stalkers - @Moonshadow - has actually supported Petracca being traded in a subsequent thread.

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