14 hours ago, P-man said:

You knew you were on a hiding to nothng making that post Steve  

I do have a level of sympathy for the players and for your standpoint on where the blame lies. I appreciate that this whole incident points to the potential dangers of club culture.

My sympathy for the players diminished however after the CAS findings, particularly regarding the players' lack of disclosure on doping control forms and general negligence. It's just too much to ignore.

They've served their time for what were largely gross errors of judgement. That is the end of the matter for me. What I can't stomach is the marching parade welcome back. As Choke says, these guys aren't heroes. I personally don't consider them to be villains either, but they sure as hell aren't heroes. 

Well P-man it will get absolutely nauseating if EFC get their request for round 1 2017, to be their home game at the G versus us!!!  They will turn up the volume on their 2016 round 2 'walk to the G to support our boys' to mega, mega levels and if we go to the game we will have to sit their and watch their fanfare, stomachs churning!!

They think they have the wood over us and will play on adrenaline like round 2, 2016.  I just hope we smash them so bad and wipe their disgusting smirks off their faces!!  Especially off that little pipsqueak, Parish!!

I've only been away for a few days guys.

No need to get excited.

hun's coverage today of the return of the prodigal son was nauseating. equal billing with finals footy, fmd

13 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Does the term 'when hell freezes over" ring any bells because that is when maybe the real people responsible for whole shambles will accept responsibility 

MFC were accused and found guilty of tanking, which in a way is cheating, so the old adage of glass houses etc, we have moved on so EFC and theit players should be allowed to as well

No, we weren't.

 

23 hours ago, Ted Fidge said:

Doesn't really stack up, does it? Put in this awful situation by the club, all these years of anxiety and grief, reputation damaged, Charlie at risk, and he walks back in the door.

Alternate explanation: he was in on it the whole time. Maybe not on top of the details but knew that there was "monkey business". Can't really say the club betrayed him then.

Of course he knew. 

Whatever it takes .....

15 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

I thought the drug thing was bad enough, but today I saw him wearing a 'feminism' hat.

Cringe.

Is that from a mysoginistic or fashionista point of view?

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Is that from a mysoginistic or fashionista point of view?

i suspect from a cynical point of view

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

i suspect from a cynical point of view

Actually to be cynical, thought it was inspired choice by JW, became a talking point and tended to deflect a lot of the 'other' attention away

On 9/23/2016 at 2:53 AM, stevethemanjordan said:

Knowing Jobe personally,

The real question for me is, does he make a good caffe latte?

5 minutes ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

The real question for me is, does he make a good caffe latte?

Believe he does, as he has a secret ingredient, that a previous acquaintance provided him with, I am told it does wonders for the flavour of the latte, it actually enhances it

22 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Does the term 'when hell freezes over" ring any bells because that is when maybe the real people responsible for whole shambles will accept responsibility 

MFC were accused and found guilty of tanking, which in a way is cheating, so the old adage of glass houses etc, we have moved on so EFC and their players should be allowed to as well

We weren't actually found guilty of tanking Saty. 

Jobe and Libba Jnr are fashion victims.

Libba is aware of it, Jobe not.

16 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Is that from a mysoginistic or fashionista point of view?

Neither.  Its from a logical point of view.

Unless he is supporting the actual oppression of women in countries like Saudi Arabia and the like, which I highly doubt.  

15 hours ago, Chris said:

We weren't actually found guilty of tanking Saty. 

EFC players were not found guilty of taking a known performance enhancing drug either    all in the wording

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

EFC players were not found guilty of taking a known performance enhancing drug either    all in the wording

No they were found guilty.... essendon said they didnt know what it was. Wada said it was tb4

8 minutes ago, biggestred said:

No they were found guilty.... essendon said they didnt know what it was. Wada said it was tb4

Which again depending on what you read is either a horse medicine, something that aids patients after heart surgery, something that may aid recovery from injury or a performance enhancer   but because nobody can say definitively what it does WADA banned it just to be on the safe side, which is the spproach the drug agencies take coz they have no [censored] idea what they are doing   

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Which again depending on what you read is either a horse medicine, something that aids patients after heart surgery, something that may aid recovery from injury or a performance enhancer   but because nobody can say definitively what it does WADA banned it just to be on the safe side, which is the spproach the drug agencies take coz they have no [censored] idea what they are doing   

funny  ^^^^^^^^^

They ban it Saty because it has not PASSED muster, because it also is likely unfit for humans and has ukmnown side affects as well as the potential to provide unfair advantage.

yeah mate...No Idea !! 

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

funny  ^^^^^^^^^

They ban it Saty because it has not PASSED muster, because it also is likely unfit for humans and has ukmnown side affects as well as the potential to provide unfair advantage.

yeah mate...No Idea !! 

There are 'legitimate' drugs that do the above as well if prescribed to the wrong person by incompetent physicians.

The agencies blanket ban so they can be seen to be doing something

The only time these agencies have success is when a sports person is dobbed in, and most of the time it is for avoidance, and never 100% proved

My opinion,  live with it

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6 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

There are 'legitimate' drugs that do the above as well if prescribed to the wrong person by incompetent physicians.

The agencies blanket ban so they can be seen to be doing something

The only time these agencies have success is when a sports person is dobbed in, and most of the time it is for avoidance, and never 100% proved

My opinion,  live with it

, 

What legitimate drugs are there that are unfit for humans that might be prescribed by a quack ?

It was banned by wada because it is a known performance enhancing peptide. no mystery here saty. stop obfuscating and playing doctor google.

Satyr's opinion is very concerning. 

Lots of idiots out there think the same way. 

Brush it all into the rubbish bin, it's too hard...

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Satyr's opinion is very concerning. 

Lots of idiots out there think the same way. 

Brush it all into the rubbish bin, it's too hard...

think he just enjoys trolling and playing devil's advocate

Let's hope Essendon does not win a flag in the near future. The "redemption story" sycophancy in the media would be utterly unbearable.

21 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Believe he does, as he has a secret ingredient, that a previous acquaintance provided him with, I am told it does wonders for the flavour of the latte, it actually enhances it

I am told the secret ingredient is just vitamins and may even cure cancer.

8 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

think he just enjoys trolling and playing devil's advocate

It is an artform for Satyr...