2 hours ago, DemonOX said:

It would have been great for our club to get Judd or Dangerfield or buddy just someone who is a star of the comp. 

Look I know it won't happen and hopefully we can develop our own but geez it would have been nice. 

What premiership did Judd win for Carlton? Have Buddy or Dangerfield won one for Sydney and Geelong yet?

4 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

What premiership did Judd win for Carlton? Have Buddy or Dangerfield won one for Sydney and Geelong yet?

It would have been great to get one of those guys in terms of leadership and that age gap, but I consider the Judd move a fail for Carlton. Dangerfield's dominance just shows how steeply Geelong fall away in the middle after him and Selwood. And Buddy has been a big factor in Sydney's performance, but with a midfield like theirs and the delivery that they produce, most forwards would be performing pretty well in that team.

So landing a "star" doesn't naturally guarantee success? Yet some still stand by the idea and want to lure a "star" as a guarantee of success?

Edited October 3, 20168 yr by mauriesy

1 minute ago, mauriesy said:

So landing a "star" doesn't naturally guarantee success? Yet some still stand by the idea and want to lure a "star" as a guarantee of success?

Yeah, I'm not a fan of this approach. Growing and developing a group together is the best way to have sustained success. A star needs to be cream on the cake.

27 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

So landing a "star" doesn't naturally guarantee success? Yet some still stand by the idea and want to lure a "star" as a guarantee of success?

You can definitely add Ablett to your list above as well.

I think it's clear that landing a star doesn't guarantee success. Look at Geelong and Hawthorn, the two most successful sides in recent memory. They developed extremely strong lists through savvy drafting and trading, and developing their own gun players. Sydney too, before Buddy/Tippett. And now the Dogs have done the same.

It's what we need to do (and are doing), and for that reason I don't think we'll be trading in anyone bigger than Hibberd, who will be a great recruit regardless.

Edited October 3, 20168 yr by Luther

Marty Pask (Lynden Dunn's manager) was just on trade radio.

Quick recap (although it's not much we don't already know)

- Dunn still has one year left on his contract but is open to a move. 

- Brisbane are interested and the ideal suitor

- Considering the potential of a move interstate, Dunn is ideally looking at a two year deal.

- Brisbane still need to appoint a new coach, therefore nothing is guaranteed.

1 minute ago, Demon Jack said:

Marty Pask (Lynden Dunn's manager) was just on trade radio.

Quick recap (although it's not much we don't already know)

- Dunn still has one year left on his contract but is open to a move. 

- Brisbane are interested and the ideal suitor

- Considering the potential of a move interstate, Dunn is ideally looking at a two year deal.

- Brisbane still need to appoint a new coach, therefore nothing is guaranteed.

I find this comment a bit funny from his manager, how can the Lions be willing to shop around Hanley and Rockliff but aren't willing to commit to a short term, low money contract for Dunn. 

1 hour ago, mauriesy said:

So landing a "star" doesn't naturally guarantee success? Yet some still stand by the idea and want to lure a "star" as a guarantee of success?

I don't recall saying it will "guarantee success" Mauriesy. 

My point was it would be nice for a "star" of the comp to select us to be traded too. 

26 minutes ago, Abe said:

I find this comment a bit funny from his manager, how can the Lions be willing to shop around Hanley and Rockliff but aren't willing to commit to a short term, low money contract for Dunn. 

It may be the other way. Maybe Dunn doesn't want to commit until he knows who the coach is, if Brisbane were to appoint Neeld for instance then Dunn may not want to go.

10 minutes ago, Chris said:

It may be the other way. Maybe Dunn doesn't want to commit until he knows who the coach is, if Brisbane were to appoint Neeld for instance then Dunn may not want to go.

And may God have mercy on their souls.

2 hours ago, Luther said:

It would have been great to get one of those guys in terms of leadership and that age gap, but I consider the Judd move a fail for Carlton. Dangerfield's dominance just shows how steeply Geelong fall away in the middle after him and Selwood. And Buddy has been a big factor in Sydney's performance, but with a midfield like theirs and the delivery that they produce, most forwards would be performing pretty well in that team.

And just imagine how Geelong will go next year if Dangerfield doesn't have another outstanding, injury-free season. Given how dominant and consistent Dangerfield was all year and they still couldn't get to a prelim, if he drops off at all next year, they could well miss the 8.

15 hours ago, rjay said:

Don't always agree 

That's because you're not always right.

28 minutes ago, A F said:

And just imagine how Geelong will go next year if Dangerfield doesn't have another outstanding, injury-free season. Given how dominant and consistent Dangerfield was all year and they still couldn't get to a prelim, if he drops off at all next year, they could well miss the 8.

Yep Dangerfield injured and we are odds on to get within 5 goals of them at Geelong

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

Yep Dangerfield injured and we are odds on to get within 5 goals of them at Geelong

Haha, Dangerfield injured, OD, and we'll beat them down there.

2 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

Marty Pask (Lynden Dunn's manager) was just on trade radio.

Quick recap (although it's not much we don't already know)

- Dunn still has one year left on his contract but is open to a move. 

- Brisbane are interested and the ideal suitor

- Considering the potential of a move interstate, Dunn is ideally looking at a two year deal.

- Brisbane still need to appoint a new coach, therefore nothing is guaranteed.

Consider this last statement irrelevant. Chris Fagen is about to be announced as the Brisbane coach.

Edited October 3, 20168 yr by Demon Jack

5 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Consider this last statement irrelevant. Chris Fagen is about to b announced as the Brisbane coach.

Seems almost like they just wanted someone from Hawthorn.  Ill be shocked if he works out for them.  Good chance it will be Neeld 2.0

5 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Consider this last statement irrelevant. Chris Fagen is about to b announced as the Brisbane coach.

Has he ever coached before?

10 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Consider this last statement irrelevant. Chris Fagen is about to b announced as the Brisbane coach.

You beat my facebook by 10 minutes on the announcement, good work. 

I wonder if the mind of Dunny will now be made up?

1 hour ago, A F said:

And just imagine how Geelong will go next year if Dangerfield doesn't have another outstanding, injury-free season. Given how dominant and consistent Dangerfield was all year and they still couldn't get to a prelim, if he drops off at all next year, they could well miss the 8.

.....and he's got to be able to get his head into the change rooms down there too.

11 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Seems almost like they just wanted someone from Hawthorn.  Ill be shocked if he works out for them.  Good chance it will be Neeld 2.0

You obviously don't know Chris Fagan.  He mightn't be a wonderful success, who knows, but he's nothing like Mark Neeld.

20 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Has he ever coached before?

I think he was an assistant at the MFC under Daniher

3 hours ago, mauriesy said:

What premiership did Judd win for Carlton? Have Buddy or Dangerfield won one for Sydney and Geelong yet?

Boyd did pretty well on Saturday. Burgoyne has been handy for the Hawks. Luke Ball for the Pies. There's more stars in the game than those 3 guys, and it's not always either/or.

 

51 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

 Chris Fagen is about to be announced as the Brisbane coach.

Richo on the GF morning show said that John Barker will be appointed Lions Coach. He said he had it on good authority.

Someone is getting it wrong, as with most footy news.

3 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Richo on the GF morning show said that John Barker will be appointed Lions Coach. He said he had it on good authority.

Someone is getting it wrong, as with most footy news.

One thing for certain Mr Leg they cannot both be right.

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Richo on the GF morning show said that John Barker will be appointed Lions Coach. He said he had it on good authority.

Someone is getting it wrong, as with most footy news.

I don't imagine them putting it all over the AFL website if the Lions hadn't confirmed it to them, so i'd say RIcho needs a new source.