With Goldstein potentially heading to WCE , does that then open the door for Vardy who apparently looked a shoe-in there until the Goldy twitter announcement - who I think would be a great 2nd/3rd option for us, without having to relinquish too much in return. 

1 minute ago, Danelska said:

With Goldstein potentially heading to WCE , does that then open the door for Vardy who apparently looked a shoe-in there until the Goldy twitter announcement - who I think would be a great 2nd/3rd option for us, without having to relinquish too much in return. 

Vardy would be a great pick up for us, but hey, wouldn't Meth Coast look good in the middle with Mitchell and Goldy on board...

5 minutes ago, Bring Back Barassi said:

Vardy would be a great pick up for us, but hey, wouldn't Meth Coast look good in the middle with Mitchell and Goldy on board...

It would have to put them strongly back in contention for a top four spot.

It's not possible to trade a future 1st pick and a future 2nd pick according to this article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

So not sure how this Rockliff deal can happen?

 

2 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Who is he? I honestly have never heard of him. What a c@ck.

Mike's son I believe.

16 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

It's not possible to trade a future 1st pick and a future 2nd pick according to this article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

So not sure how this Rockliff deal can happen?

 

We give the pick 30 to Essendon + pick 66 or somthing for Hibberd. We keep our 2017 2nd

19 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

It's not possible to trade a future 1st pick and a future 2nd pick according to this article: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

So not sure how this Rockliff deal can happen?

 

2nd round pick < Hibberd

3rd round pick < Lewis 

Dunn + Future 2nd/1st < Rockliff

If we landed any of these 3 or ideally all of  them I would be curious as to what they would be on per year, any guesses?

3 minutes ago, HulkHogan said:

2nd round pick < Hibberd

3rd round pick < Lewis 

Dunn + Future 2nd/1st < Rockliff

Yes but the trade per the rumour from the Brisbane Footy Boss and John Murphy is:

Dunn, Future 1st & Future 2nd > Rockliff, Pick 19

Am I correct in saying that is not possible?

 

 

9 hours ago, Generation dee said:

I love all that WJ does woth this site, and I don't want to push the wrong buttons, but yes. I alluded to the references, WJ named them. I then tried to make a light hearted joke about it, as to be honest, my identity is hardly a secret naming it. That said, I can see why plenty of posters stop posting info. Some of the vitriol on here hasn't been ideal. Anyway what happens happens 

This has zero to do with WJ and everything to do with you naming your source.

As soon as I read that you were the nephew of a Fitzroy great and current AFL captain I thought he's the nephew of John Murphy, or at least that was the declaration.

I then saw WJ's post and wondered why he sought clarification, because there was no other scenario.  There was no other choice other than John Murphy. 

You outed yourself, which is fine, as it was your choice.

As for the veracity of your claims ?  I have no clue.  I hope they're correct.

4 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

Yes but the trade per the rumour from the Brisbane Footy Boss and John Murphy is:

Dunn, Future 1st & Future 2nd > Rockliff, Pick 19

Am I correct in saying that is not possible?

 

 

What he's saying is that we'll trade our future first round pick, Dunn and pick 29 for Rockliff, pick 19 and a pick in the 30's

and then pass one of those picks on to the Bombers for Hibberd, so as far as i can tell the trade is possible though i'd have thought it was unlikely. 

I strongly believe that pick 29 and Lynden Dunn would be enough to get Rockliff over the line,  but we'd have to take serious care with his "Attitude issues" and contractual expectations, we can't spend big on him, and clearly his expectations in this area are a big factor in why he's getting little-no interest from rivial clubs.

14 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

Yes but the trade per the rumour from the Brisbane Footy Boss and John Murphy is:

Dunn, Future 1st & Future 2nd > Rockliff, Pick 19

Am I correct in saying that is not possible?

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Abe said:

What he's saying is that we'll trade our future first round pick, Dunn and pick 29 for Rockliff, pick 19 and a pick in the 30's

and then pass one of those picks on to the Bombers for Hibberd, so as far as i can tell the trade is possible though i'd have thought it was unlikely. 

I strongly believe that pick 29 and Lynden Dunn would be enough to get Rockliff over the line,  but we'd have to take serious care with his "Attitude issues" and contractual expectations, we can't spend big on him, and clearly his expectations in this area are a big factor in why he's getting little-no interest from rivial clubs.

Where exactly has this rumour come from? Can't find it anywhere

Just now, HulkHogan said:

 

Where exactly has this rumour come from? Can't find it anywhere

I believe it was @Generation dee

Just now, Abe said:

What he's saying is that we'll trade our future first round pick, Dunn and pick 29 for Rockliff, pick 19 and a pick in the 30's

and then pass one of those picks on to the Bombers for Hibberd, so as far as i can tell the trade is possible though i'd have thought it was unlikely. 

I strongly believe that pick 29 and Lynden Dunn would be enough to get Rockliff over the line,  but we'd have to take serious care with his "Attitude issues" and contractual expectations, we can't spend big on him, and clearly his expectations in this area are a big factor in why he's getting little-no interest from rivial clubs.

It just seems strange to me that Essendon would be OK with taking a mid 30's pick for Hibberd rather than our pick 29. 

To me that only leaves trading pick 19 to Essendon for Hibberd, with maybe another pick coming back from their end?

12 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

Yes but the trade per the rumour from the Brisbane Footy Boss and John Murphy is:

Dunn, Future 1st & Future 2nd > Rockliff, Pick 19

Am I correct in saying that is not possible?

 

 

You are right that is not possible... but the rumor posted is our 2017 first round, our 2016 second round (pick 29) and Dunn for Rockliff and 19 and a pick in the mid 30s that brisbane have not yet acquired.

To me i think that the AFL might step in and not allow brissy to trade their compo pick (19) so we might very well end up with their second round which is pick 21 which we could ontrade to the bummers for Hibberd  (possibly somthing coming back our way but I wouldnt be too fussed if we don't) or best case we manage to get Hibberd for our mid 30s pick..

So for us our trade period could look

Out 2017 first, pick 29, pick 66 & Dunn

In Rockliff, Lewis, Hibberd & pick 21 or mid 30s (depending on the hibberd trade)

That looks like an amazing result for us especially if our 2017 pick can be in the teens... and overall looks fair for all teams we trade with.

We could then go to the draft with our pick 21 or mid 30s or use it to aquire a tempory ruck forward.

5 minutes ago, whelan45 said:

It just seems strange to me that Essendon would be OK with taking a mid 30's pick for Hibberd rather than our pick 29. 

To me that only leaves trading pick 19 to Essendon for Hibberd, with maybe another pick coming back from their end?

I suspect we;d have to offer up something else as well, though i don't think this trade is very likely in the first place.

7 minutes ago, Abe said:

I believe it was @Generation dee

And exactly how reliable is this rumour 

1 minute ago, HulkHogan said:

And exactly how reliable is this rumour 

About as reliable as anyone else on here i suppose?

i guess we'll know by thursday next week.

2 minutes ago, HulkHogan said:

And exactly how reliable is this rumour 

If you aren't sure, read back over this thread.  I know is a pain but none of us are going to convince you one way or the other. 

 

Fwiw he named his source. 

6 minutes ago, GCDee said:

You are right that is not possible... but the rumor posted is our 2017 first round, our 2016 second round (pick 29) and Dunn for Rockliff and 19 and a pick in the mid 30s that brisbane have not yet acquired.

To me i think that the AFL might step in and not allow brissy to trade their compo pick (19) so we might very well end up with their second round which is pick 21 which we could ontrade to the bummers for Hibberd  (possibly somthing coming back our way but I wouldnt be too fussed if we don't) or best case we manage to get Hibberd for our mid 30s pick..

So for us our trade period could look

Out 2017 first, pick 29, pick 66 & Dunn

In Rockliff, Lewis, Hibberd & pick 21 or mid 30s (depending on the hibberd trade)

That looks like an amazing result for us especially if our 2017 pick can be in the teens... and overall looks fair for all teams we trade with.

We could then go to the draft with our pick 21 or mid 30s or use it to aquire a tempory ruck forward.

AFL have already stated there is no restriction on what Brie can do with pick 19 within the rules obviously 

The problem is I think we may be going for too many of the type we already have. I'm sure they will nurse Oliver through another year. He's bound to have 2nd year blues like Gus and Hoges (to a lesser extent) did.

Team could look like this

B: Jetta - O.Mac - Hibberd

HB: Salem - T.Mac -  Hunt

C: Stretch - Lewis - Vince

HF: Kent - Hogan - Petracca

FF: Garlett - Weideman/Pederson - Watts

FOLL: Gawn - Jones - Viney

INT: Brayshaw - Frost - Tyson - Rockliff

EMG: Harmes - Bugg - Melksham

Really wanted to fit Melksham in the 22. Provides outside run. I'm sure he'll be in the team by round 1

Gaining Rockliff would also mean gaining pick 19. So who knows how this guy goes. If w can extract that pick, we must pick an outisde player who has great speed, run and carry and kicking skills

Would Ideally like to stick a backup ruckman who can kick goals in there at FF. Maybe Vardy or Nankervis

Welcome to Dreamland if we snagged all 3 plus Vardy. 

All aquiver at the mere prospect. 

Giving up our 2017 1st may be a bit risky

Next years draft is stacked 

We need picks to land a big fish

Just now, DemonLad5 said:

Giving up our 2017 1st may be a bit risky

Next years draft is stacked 

We need picks to land a big fish

I think lewis, Rockliff are pretty big tbh

2 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

Giving up our 2017 1st may be a bit risky

Next years draft is stacked 

We need picks to land a big fish

Yes but in the current climate player movement is very free so you don't have to rely on drafting talent.