4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

With all due respect to Casey, I would hope that doesn't matter.  Making our list decisions and moving forward is far more important in the overall context of our club.

But, you may well be right too.  

Might be a good time to make another little announcement as well.

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

will grimes get another go at a different afl club?

 

watching him on sunday was sad.

 

trengove and spencer got new one-year deals so will be on the list in 2017.

 

i'll go with the following:

dawes - wait and see depending upon hogan

lumumba - pay him out

dunn - is he a trade option? would have more value to another club than garland as defensive coverage

newton - gone

garland - is he a trade option? would have less value to another club than dunn as defensive coverage, and we somehow gave him three years

pedersen - i'd keep him as coverage

michie - gone

jkh - trade option

anb - trade option

grimes - gone

mitch white - gone / re-rookie

terlich - gone

This nails it for me.

 

I really feel like the kind of massive culls being suggested here are a thing of the past for us. We don't need to churn 10+ players every year. We've been through a few years of that and the results we are starting to see at both AFL and VFL show we are seeing some return on the hard work. 

There is massive upside to be had from this young list and moving to a period of greater stability. I see no reason to churn solid citizens like ANB and Pederson. Players like Dawes have salary cap implications for us that require addressing and some players like Dunn or grimes need to be given opportunities if they aren't getting them here and we can make a trade a win win. In general though we should be looking at development and judicious trading bring the focus. 

 

I'd rather free up the list of spots.

We don't need to be playing players that simply arn't going to be part of the main 22. I'd rather give a shot to a Hunt type. We all saw the benifits of giving the youngsters a go this season like Oscar, Hunt etc

Nothing to be gained otherwise except cover for a few games.

2 hours ago, Abe said:

Given Grimes status as a free agent, i assume we don't delist him just incase we somehow get a compo pick for him?

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-07/revealed-what-it-takes-to-earn-firstround-free-agency-compensation-

"Under the rules, compensation is based on the new contract of the free agent and his age.

Draft picks are also allocated to clubs based on the net total points for free agents lost and gained during the transfer period and can be slotted in to one of five places: first round, end of first round, second round, end of second round and third round."

3rd round following our pick is the lowest qualifying pick - that would be 45 which would be quite handy.  Grimes is a young FA so that's in our favour and if an interstate club wants to entice him to move then it could be 3 years on some decent $s.  I think a compensation pick is possible.

Edited September 27, 20168 yr by Fifty-5

Culling too many could cause a bit of unnecessary instability. 4 - 5 changes is on the mark I think.

Matt Jones delisted this morning.

Good luck for the future Matt. Thanks for your contribution over the past few years.

 

4 minutes ago, The Big Sauce said:

Matt Jones delisted this morning.

Good luck for the future Matt. Thanks for your contribution over the past few years.

 

Really? Source??

actually thought they would have hung onto him as a depth only for another year.

I reckon Matt Jones deserves a 1-yr deal.  if it wasnt for injury he would have played most games.  he is reliable in what he provides and is a good runner. if we want to be in finals we need guys like him as depth/on the fringes rather than always being the youngest team

11 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I reckon Matt Jones deserves a 1-yr deal.  if it wasnt for injury he would have played most games.  he is reliable in what he provides and is a good runner. if we want to be in finals we need guys like him as depth/on the fringes rather than always being the youngest team

You're right. I thought he was very good earlier in the year....and that's not something I've ever thought has has been.

37 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I reckon Matt Jones deserves a 1-yr deal.  if it wasnt for injury he would have played most games.  he is reliable in what he provides and is a good runner. if we want to be in finals we need guys like him as depth/on the fringes rather than always being the youngest team

Meh.  Did you see a kid for Footscray the other day called Bailey Dale?  He can run AND kick.  Pick 45 2014.  Brad Lynch off half back?  Rookie draft.

They're out there, and you've got to turn over the Matt Jones' of the world and use late picks to find them.

Matt Jones was the least spuddy of the spuds we have on our list. At least he isn't slow. 
Give me a quick Matt Jones over a slow Michie and Newton any day.
The only good thing Newton has going for him is that he kicks goals as a mid. 

1 hour ago, The Big Sauce said:

Matt Jones delisted this morning.

Good luck for the future Matt. Thanks for your contribution over the past few years.

 

Whats your Sauce err Big Sauce?

13 minutes ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

Meh.  Did you see a kid for Footscray the other day called Bailey Dale?  He can run AND kick.  Pick 45 2014.  Brad Lynch off half back?  Rookie draft.

They're out there, and you've got to turn over the Matt Jones' of the world and use late picks to find them.

yeah we get 'em too, Hunt, Wagner etc.  I just reckon, on his merits he had a good year and should be rewarded for working his ar$e off and playing pretty well

19 minutes ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Matt Jones was the least spuddy of the spuds we have on our list. At least he isn't slow. 
Give me a quick Matt Jones over a slow Michie and Newton any day.
The only good thing Newton has going for him is that he kicks goals as a mid. 

Agree completely. He gives us something we are in short supply of - run & spread. Thought he was good until he busted his ribs

43 minutes ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Matt Jones was the least spuddy of the spuds we have on our list. At least he isn't slow. 
Give me a quick Matt Jones over a slow Michie and Newton any day.
The only good thing Newton has going for him is that he kicks goals as a mid. 

I'm stealing this one.

2 minutes ago, Choke said:

I'm stealing this one.

Spuddy McSpudface

1 hour ago, The Big Sauce said:

Matt Jones delisted this morning.

Good luck for the future Matt. Thanks for your contribution over the past few years.

 

You got a connection there Rosella lad? You seem to talk about Jones a lot

 

1 hour ago, The Song Formerly Known As said:

Matt Jones was the least spuddy of the spuds we have on our list. At least he isn't slow. 
Give me a quick Matt Jones over a slow Michie and Newton any day.
The only good thing Newton has going for him is that he kicks goals as a mid. 

I would keep none of the above Song, we might make a few more changes than people think

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Really? Source??

The Big Sauce has a reliable source history especially re Matt Jones

Matt Jones has run and spread but his kicking is poor over 25 metres and he misses too many tackles (like Howe).

At 29 he is not getting any better.   Very good VFL player. 

4 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

The Big Sauce has a reliable source history especially re Matt Jones

Except for when he said Jones was safe because Goody liked him... or when he said that people should get off Jones' back coz he'd be round for a while.

Club website: 

"THE MELBOURNE Football Club has today advised Jack Grimes, Matt Jones and Dean Terlich that they will not be offered playing contracts for the 2017 season".

Melbourne makes first list changes

Really surprised at the loss of Matt Jones. 

All the best to all three players:  they wore the red and blue with pride.

3 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Except for when he said Jones was safe because Goody liked him... or when he said that people should get off Jones' back coz he'd be round for a while.

Yes but I think he may have a direct line to Matt Jones and they were impressions whereas delisted is a fact.

I rest TBS case!

Edited September 27, 20168 yr by Fifty-5

32 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Club website: 

"THE MELBOURNE Football Club has today advised Jack Grimes, Matt Jones and Dean Terlich that they will not be offered playing contracts for the 2017 season". 

Melbourne makes first list changes

Really surprised at the loss of Matt Jones. 

All the best to all three players:  they wore the red and blue with pride.

Agree with your sentiments, nicely put, hopefully the trolls will behave themselves now they have their wish