2 hours ago, dieter said:

This is one of the silliest posts I've ever read.

disagree  ide be ok if hogan left  just runs about pointing fingers cant kick , cant take a pack mark    just a beat up   hogan this hogan that   be honest pretty much no good  

 

We have been a poor tackling side for as long as I can remember.. Today was just a 'bruise free day' for the young Dees.. Hope they drop the habit.

Still lack a fair bit of genuine class and leadership but some of the talent is there to work with..

at the moment for me trade hogan , next to useless  blame delivery or whatever    just no good for us  i [censored] you not 

A poignant indication for mine, and it goes to the idea of litmus raised elsewhere; we still finished withsub 100℅ 

That's a fail

Disappointing to say the least

Squandered , more the case

What have we really learnt ?

2 minutes ago, BarnDee said:

at the moment for me trade hogan , next to useless  blame delivery or whatever    just no good for us  i [censored] you not 

Trade yourself out to anyone. How about we keep Hogan and you get lost. I'm sick of people like you going off half cocked with negative drivel. You would have next to no idea what you're talking about.

3 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

Trade yourself out to anyone. How about we keep Hogan and you get lost. I'm sick of people like you going off half cocked with negative drivel. You would have next to no idea what you're talking about.

oooh well up yours  you [censored]  im not being negative   ya fool  what has he done for us  sweet F,A  

Just now, BarnDee said:

oooh well up yours  you [censored]  im not being negative   ya fool  what has he done for us  sweet F,A  

Top response. If you can't see Hogan's ability beyond a few average performances then I don't think you've been watching the last two seasons.

2 minutes ago, Django said:

Top response. If you can't see Hogan's ability beyond a few average performances then I don't think you've been watching the last two seasons.

a few average performances  waaa  when have seen above above  average ?

let freo have him just useless 

Just now, BarnDee said:

a few average performances  waaa  when have seen above above  average ?

A 21 year old centre half forward with 41 games and 85 goals under his belt is something special. If you can't understand that then go to bed.

1 minute ago, Django said:

A 21 year old centre half forward with 41 games and 85 goals under his belt is something special. If you can't understand that then go to bed.

oh yeah a 21 year old sook cant mark , cant kick    wont chase    dont need this  trade next year get a goer in 

Hogan just looks like he's been playing self-preservation football the 2nd half of the year. Won't be surprised to see the headline on Tuesday or Wednesday next week "Hogan requests trade"

I'm frustrated like all & prob posted a negative .. But after listening to Roos presser ., he's on the money & said pure & simple young kids ran out of legs after Port game... Big month won 3 in a row.. Wins against Hawks, port & almost WC, 2 road trips. Another preason for our 1st & 2nd year players will help. We should feel confident going fwd as Roos said that young team has plenty of growth together for improvement... Throw in melcshem & few more trades should see further improvements!

9 minutes ago, Django said:

A 21 year old centre half forward with 41 games and 85 goals under his belt is something special. If you can't understand that then go to bed.

oh yeah a 21 year old sook cant mark , cant kick    wont chase    dont need this  trade next year get a goer in 

25 minutes ago, Django said:

Top response. If you can't see Hogan's ability beyond a few average performances then I don't think you've been watching the last two seasons.

hey fool i been a demon supporter for the last 55 years  i have heard or watched nearly every  game in that time dont you dare  say that to me you [censored] 

1 hour ago, Django said:

Top response. If you can't see Hogan's ability beyond a few average performances then I don't think you've been watching the last two seasons.

Or understand how key position forwards develop over time.

As much as watching the game today sucked, perhaps it was for the better.  There has been enough good performances this year for the team to build a bit of confidence that we can match it with some of the good teams on our day.

If there was any sence of overconfidence and complacency from our small run of form, today's loss should leave a bad taste in the mouths of the players to motivate them to work their butts off over preseason as there is obviously still a lot of work to go.

Someone on this page might be a little bit tipsy...

FWIW Hogan is young, inexperienced, and struggles to cope with being out of form as it's happened to him so few times in his life. He's passionate; and in its youth, it comes across as cantankerous. The determined, stoic type will come with age and experience.

I'd also wager that he's playing injured which is adding to his lack of mobility and frustration. He could barely walk when off the ground during the stkilda match and hasn't looked dangerous since.

So some  want to hang hogan... He had a few passengers today!

Edited August 27, 20169 yr by Hogan2014

1 hour ago, BarnDee said:

let freo have him just useless 

I'm not sure that Freo would be looking so attractive to Hogan after the realitive seasons us and them have had.

Freo's annus horribilis couldn't have come at a better time for us in many ways.  The main concern would be if the exit of key players like Pav and deflation in value of a few others will leave them with a huge war chest to throw at Jessie.

46 minutes ago, A F said:

Or understand how key position forwards develop over time.

 

34 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

 

FWIW Hogan is young, inexperienced, and struggles to cope with being out of form as it's happened to him so few times in his life. He's passionate; and in its youth, it comes across as cantankerous. The determined, stoic type will come with age and experience.

Hogan's first season was certainly ahead of where Johnathan Browns was and Tom Hawkins took about as long as Jack Watts to come good I recon.  Both of the aforementioned played in kinda handy sides too.

Our delivery into the forward line was deplorable at times this year, but should only get better as the team improves.  I'm sure Jessie would have been much happier with the kind of supply that Tomahawk was getting today.

2 hours ago, SPC said:

We have been a poor tackling side for as long as I can remember.. Today was just a 'bruise free day' for the young Dees.. Hope they drop the habit.

Still lack a fair bit of genuine class and leadership but some of the talent is there to work with..

Bruise free? We were [censored], or skills shucked and we let a free tackles slip but ask Dangerfield if we were bruise free. We went hard and scragged when we didn't have the ball, they just out played us. 

bailey game plan with a zone defense....thats how far we come

Keep coming back to the skills. All those turnovers just kill us, kill our confidence, and kill any hope of getting a roll on.

The most horrifying thing about yesterday was it was pretty much our best 22.

i could sort of accept yesterday if we had 8-10 of our best 22 out, but we had our likely 2017 Rd 1 side ( minus M Jones and possibly Bugg and Harmes).

Next year it's unlikely we won't have the dream injury run that we did this year.