Diamond Joe files for bankruptcy

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 minute ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

The bigger question is what you are going to do Biff when the Gatwick gets sold off?

Move in with BBO.

[daisycutter 29,616]

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Move in with BBO.

go into business with joe

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5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

go into business with joe

Can't see Joe hanging around street corners in St. Kilda, wearing an Adidas tracksuit sadly.

[Biffen 12,943]

16 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

The bigger question is what you are going to do Biff when the Gatwick gets sold off?

We have found bones and neolithic implements in the back Courtyard that appear to be of cultural significance.

We will be finding more Wurrendjerri artefacts in the next few months as well and reporting them to the relevant authorities which should slow the project down significantly.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Biffen
spulling

[daisycutter 29,616]

2 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

Can't see Joe hanging around street corners in St. Kilda, wearing an Adidas tracksuit sadly.

he'd be the business manager and put in the capital  show biffo how to "manage" money. probably rip him off in the end but.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

1 hour ago, Biffen said:

We have found bones and neolithic implements in the back Courtyard that appear to be of cultural significance.

We will be finding more Wurrendjerri artefacts in the next few months as well and reporting them to the relevant authorities which should slow the project down significantly.

I reckon they'd more likely be evidence of your drug deals gone wrong biff.

Careful what you wish for.

Edited July 13, 2016 by Moonshadow

[ManDee 7,148]

2 hours ago, Biffen said:

We have found bones and neolithic implements in the back Courtyard that appear to be of cultural significance.

We will be finding more Wurrendjerri artefacts in the next few months as well and reporting them to the relevant authorities which should slow the project down significantly.

KFC bucket?

[daisycutter 29,616]

3 hours ago, Biffen said:

We have found bones and neolithic implements in the back Courtyard that appear to be of cultural significance.

We will be finding more Wurrendjerri artefacts in the next few months as well and reporting them to the relevant authorities which should slow the project down significantly.

i never realised neolithics used syringes, biffo

[Rodney (Balls) Grinter 10,825]

11 hours ago, camillo said:

You know little of what you're talking about. Fitzroy people fought for their club till the end and a few players were moved to Brisbane in a piecemeal response by an AFL run by an ex St Kilda player ( one of the least successful clubs anywhere in any competition ). Fitzroy was punished because unlike South Melbourne they didn't fold like a pack of cards. I met Alan Aylett who was VFL president when Sydney was set up a few years ago and asked why they sent South to Sydney and he said ' you should have seen their books ", and I thought your ex club is North Melbourne for goodness sake. 

Fitzroy members at the time voted for a merger with North Melbourne and the commission rejected their wishes and packed them off to Queensland thousands of miles away instead. By the way Fitzroy at the time had 8 premierships ( 2 more than Geelong at the time ) so really when you think about it AFL/VFL premierships mean sweet F all.

Whilst I obviously don't have the inside connection or recollection that you do, what I was meaning by the Fitzroy and perhaps the Sydney relocations to some extent, was that these clubs were able to retain more of their identity than what we would have in the proposed merger with Hawthorn.  I know many an older Roy boys and Bloods supporter who are able to still proudly support their respectively relocated teams than I think I'd be able to if we jettisoned the demon, threw yellow in there and added some stupid Hawk.

I do recall how hard Fitzroy fought to keep their club afloat and that they did pretty much fight until the death.

What I'm saying is that though I actually voted for the merger at the time (along with might I add the majority of MFC members), in retrospect I'd rather fight to the death for club survival or wait another decade to actually see us win a premiership (though I sincerely hope that's not the case) than to cave into a merger and try to buy our way to success that way, at the same time as selling out the soul of the club.

Joe showed the sort of passion for the club that many at the time did not (including a number of former club champions) and put his money where his mouth was to boot.  I don't forget that.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,240]

5 hours ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

The bigger question is what you are going to do Biff when the Gatwick gets sold off?

 That's a great question Col. As you know I'm one of Biffen's  old mates ( one of the many he owes money to)

So I have great sympathy for his homelessness issue.

 

Bwahaha  Bwahaha !!!

I'm not letting the bludging bast ard anywhere near the Manor that's for sure!!

[daisycutter 29,616]

46 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

 That's a great question Col. As you know I'm one of Biffen's  old mates ( one of the many he owes money to)

So I have great sympathy for his homelessness issue.

 

Bwahaha  Bwahaha !!!

I'm not letting the bludging bast ard anywhere near the Manor that's for sure!!

not even in the barn with the lads?

[Biffen 12,943]

If times ever get so hard that I am forced to live in Romsey at least I know me old mate bitters will welcome such illustrious company. I would expect the masters chambers at the manor. And all the good hospitality these simple folk are famous for.

Especially after all the VIP treatment he has enjoyed at the Gat thanks to yours truly.

[Sir Why You Little 37,038]

Glicks Bakery may suffer. I am sure The Gutnick kiddies went feral in there..

[Biffen 12,943]

16 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Glicks Bakery may suffer. I am sure The Gutnick kiddies went feral in there..

 Joe lost 275 bagels .

yet more than half the companies Joe owes big time bagels to are involved/ controlled by Joe. 

The biggest loser is a fertiliser company from India who are working for a major player in the food control industry.

Joe has done the world a favour .

Again.

[The Rebbe 30]

If you can follow this then you will understand the meaning of life and be able to work out the exact position of the sun, moon and planets at the precise moment when Melbourne wins its next flag

 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

WTF the rebbe???

[Bers 11]

On 12 July 2016 at 8:26 PM, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Melbourne supporters do owe old Joe and Don Scott some fair gratitude.  Without these two guys, we'd all be following the Dorks or some other gastly almalgimation, not sitting on the cusp of a resurgent, competitive Demons team.

At the time I was actually pro-merger because I was so desperate for that success, but in retrospect I think I'd rather the club go bankrupt and team be forcefully relocated to the Gold Coast or Tasmania or something similar to Fitzroy than merge with any other existing team.

My view is that at the very least old Joe deserves some dignity and respect from Melbourne supporters from what he did and tried to do for the club.  I don't recall the politics which resulted in his departure from the presidency, but I think at his core he's one of us - a die hard, heart beats true for the red and blue type of guy.

That's what I would have thought, however I bumped into him at a mining conference a few years back in HK, asked him about our "beloved Dees", was pretty ambivalent, didn't want a bar of it, strange.

[Lucifers Hero 39,811]

An update on some wheeling and dealings:  http://www.theage.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/diamond-joe-dealing-until-the-very-end-20160713-gq4xlv.html As I stated earlier he will be fine!

It is well known that business people own very little in their own name...wives, families, Trusts and Off-shore companies come in very handy! Good Tax spinoffs too...

This reminds me of when I worked for a major consulting company and chatting with a senior Partner about 'Professional Indemnity Insurance'.  He said it was fine to have but all his assets were in his wife's name!  I asked what if 'Mary' (not her real name) leaves, you?  His answer:  'If she goes, I go with her'!  Made me laugh a lot. 

Own nothing in your own name, create a labyrinth of business structures and have a good army of lawyers.  That is just the way it goes in the world of big business and 'powerbrokers, unfortunately.  

Edited July 13, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[hemingway 7,627]

20 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Glicks Bakery may suffer. I am sure The Gutnick kiddies went feral in there..

Glicks may well see more of the Gutnicks not less. Glicks is a favourite spot for those down on their luck. 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,240]

On ‎7‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 0:08 AM, Moonshadow said:

WTF the rebbe???

That's one tough missus! FMD - I wouldn't stay out late on the pizz!