16 minutes ago, america de cali said:

He changed his mind again.

17 hours ago, america de cali said:

Can't help thinking he may have held us back this year.  

You have zero credibility, and this is why.

7 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

You have zero credibility, and this is why.

Are you the poster who logged up over 2000 posts insisting Scully will stay with us? 

Edited September 7, 20169 yr by america de cali

4 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Are you the poster who logged up over 2000 posts insisting Scully will stay with us? 

No, but how would it even be relevant to you talking rubbish? 
 

Just now, Mach5 said:

No, but how would it even be relevant to you talking rubbish? 
 

Yes you are.

7 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Yes you are.

Factually incorrect, but I ask again... relevance?
Desperate to change the topic from your ridiculous post?

Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
If you're relying on Scully leaving as a crutch for your credibility, you're going to be disappointed.

I'm a Hogan critic but that is rubbish that he held us back this year. I know we have beaten 2015 Geelong and 2016 Hawks without him, but we are 2-1 without him in the side. Hardly a big sample size, if we were 6-2 without him then perhaps it'd have some merit.

His attitude and goalkicking need work but make no mistake he is a huge talent and if he fixes those up he'll probably be the best key forward of his generation.

16 minutes ago, schmuttt said:

I'm a Hogan critic but that is rubbish that he held us back this year. I know we have beaten 2015 Geelong and 2016 Hawks without him, but we are 2-1 without him in the side. Hardly a big sample size, if we were 6-2 without him then perhaps it'd have some merit.

His attitude and goalkicking need work but make no mistake he is a huge talent and if he fixes those up he'll probably be the best key forward of his generation.

I think it is a valid argument. Despite the small sample size our forward line has not functioned with the same fluidity and efficiency  against quality opposition since our big win over the swans back in the Bailey days. And we have to go back to 2006 for similar offensive elan. Not just the fact that we won.  Those two games stand out like goat glands of the Roos era.

Edited September 7, 20169 yr by america de cali

5 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I think it is a valid argument. Despite the small sample size our forward line has not functioned with the same fluidity and efficiency  against quality opposition since our big win over the swans back in the Bailey days. And we have to go back to 2006 for similar offensive Elan.  Those two games stand out like goat glands of the Roos era.

Mate, our forwardline hasn't functioned because we've been [censored]. You are cherry picking 3 games (Remember the Hawks absolutely smashed us in 2015 without Hogan as well), it isn't valid at all.

13 minutes ago, schmuttt said:

Mate, our forwardline hasn't functioned because we've been [censored]. You are cherry picking 3 games (Remember the Hawks absolutely smashed us in 2015 without Hogan as well), it isn't valid at all.

That was round 7 and early in his career and we only got the Hawthorn monkey off our back that's been there for a decade this year.  Anyway my argument can be measured next season.

Edited September 7, 20169 yr by america de cali

On 02/09/2016 at 2:52 PM, america de cali said:

You need to correct your memory. Hawkins debut was in round 2,  2007 the year they started their AFL domination and won the flag. In round 3 and his second game that year he kicked 4 goals against us in a brutal hiding. That game confirmed the beginning of our painfully long decline and the beginning of Geelong's  rise.

After Geelong beat us they had a couple of poor losses against Hawthorn and North. After the North loss, and on the same day we lost a squeaker to Port, the Cats beat Richmond by about 250 goals. That was the day the announced they meant business.

33 minutes ago, america de cali said:

I think it is a valid argument. Despite the small sample size our forward line has not functioned with the same fluidity and efficiency  against quality opposition since our big win over the swans back in the Bailey days. And we have to go back to 2006 for similar offensive elan. Not just the fact that we won.  Those two games stand out like goat glands of the Roos era.

Anyone with a pair of eyes and half a brain for football can tell that Jesse is a supremely talented footballer who is already pretty damn good. If Jesse played in those two games we would have won by more. It has been a long time since our midfield gave the kind of service it did in that Hawthorn game.

Edited September 7, 20169 yr by pitchfork

I think as a club/list we're in a far better position to cope with life without Jesse if that eventuated,  i don't think it will but our wins against Geelong and Hawthorn show that the talent on the list is good enough to cover the loss of probably any player outside Gawn

16 minutes ago, Tony Tea said:

After Geelong beat us they had a couple of poor losses against Hawthorn and North. After the North loss, and on the same day we lost a squeaker to Port, the Cats beat Richmond by about 250 goals. That was the day the announced they meant business.

Great talent no doubt but no superstar yet. Even spud Membery has had a better season without all the hoopla.

 

 

I blame Hogan for 186.

Surely he knows a hashtag of #staytuned is going to be a mind [censored].

He's like the hot bird who parades herself in front of you saying "you know you want this".

Yes, I do. Very much. Now please give it.

7 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I blame Hogan for 186.

Agreed. Did nothing that day.

2 minutes ago, P-man said:

Agreed. Did nothing that day.

was totally unsighted

On 9/7/2016 at 2:25 PM, daisycutter said:

was totally unsighted

apparently was in Perth...

11 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I blame Hogan for 186.

I'd go as far as to blame him for the fact we haven't won a flag in over 50 years.

Just now, Abe said:

apparently was in Perth...

smiling?

2 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I'd go as far as to blame him for the fact we haven't won a flag in over 50 years.

Now you're just being ridiculous..

41 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I'd go as far as to blame him for the fact we haven't won a flag in over 50 years.

At least we've moved on from blaming Jack Watts.

On 9/7/2016 at 3:08 PM, The Reverend said:

At least we've moved on from blaming Jack Watts.

it's Jack Watts fault we're now blaming Jesse Hogan.

This is getting a bit silly now. SWYL will set you all straight, it's Cam Schwab's desk's fault.