Maybe I've missed something but can someone enlighten me as to what is happening with Jake Spencer? Hurt his foot at the intra club game and hasn't been sighted since. At training ATM and pretty much a full turnout other than him. Would be a concern if Gawn goes down and Jake is a long way off.

Dave Misson on 10/3 said Jake was running well and doing stuff on the treadmill and they would just monitor him for a week or so. Not verbatim but that was the gist of it. Hopefully he will be fit and firing all season and gets to play alongside Max a few times like he did at Geelong. Fingers crossed that he has a break out year. 

5 minutes ago, martin said:

Maybe I've missed something but can someone enlighten me as to what is happening with Jake Spencer? Hurt his foot at the intra club game and hasn't been sighted since. At training ATM and pretty much a full turnout other than him. Would be a concern if Gawn goes down and Jake is a long way off.

He has Plantar Fascitis  which is not an easy thing to get over especially if you are an athlete. Joel Selwood at Geelong did not train for 8 weeks last year.

I have heard nothing since the match he pulled out of but would not be surprised if he is out for sometime.

Thanks for that. It's a worry that we didn't really  recruit a back up/3rd ruckman in the off season. Frost/Pedersen/Dawes can all pinch hit but we'll get mauled over an extended period. Fingers crossed that Maxy maintains his form and fitness.

If he has plantar fascitis I suspect that he will be able to play whenever needed if Gawn goes down but they are resting him now to try and get over it before the season starts. 

Having had it a few years ago, it is the type of injury that causes pain in the morning,  When you stop for a break and horribly after the game but once you are warmed up and going you can play through it.  

At AFL level that may be difficult for a sustained period of time but it is possible. It is a strange injury, excruciatingly painful and you can't weight bear at times but somehow you can play through it. However recovery is a long process involving staying off your feet or worse 

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/how-kennedy-broke-in-his-foot-20120401-1w6h8.html

 

 

 

I'm looking at the positives. A lot of time in the ruck at Casey for Max King. If (and it's a decent sized if) his own body can hold up to senior VFL footy then his match fitness and development should get a good kick along.

It is a shame the Spencil is out but he's a pretty tough character, if we need him hopefully he's rested up enough that he can front up and play. I think that would be a situation where we'd play both Pedo and Frost as well and use a lot of 3rd man ups. Get creative with Frost playing as an extra on baller in a lot of ways.

2 hours ago, deanox said:

If he has plantar fascitis I suspect that he will be able to play whenever needed if Gawn goes down but they are resting him now to try and get over it before the season starts. 

Having had it a few years ago, it is the type of injury that causes pain in the morning,  when you stop for a break and horribly after the game but once you are warmed up and going you can play through it.  At AFL level that may be difficult for a sustained period of time but it is possible. It is a strange injury, excruciatingly painful and you can't weight bear at times but somehow you can play through it.  However recovery is a long process involving staying off your feet or worse 

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/how-kennedy-broke-in-his-foot-20120401-1w6h8.html

Mark Jamar had it, plantar fasciitis

Bbo will like this one

http://www.theballetblog.com/portfolio/the-best-treatment-for-plantar-fasciitis-in-dancers/

 

... and old dee as well

http://centre.atlantaballet.com/news/dr-sinkoe-offers-advice-for-the-dancer-with-plantar-fasciitis

Edited March 16, 20169 yr by dee-luded

Robert Harvey dealt with his in a drastic way...

http://podiapaedia.org/wiki/orthopaedics/plantar-fasciitis/deliberate-rupture-of-plantar-fascia-to-treat-plantar-fasciitis/

Maybe it's time our on ballers learned to rove to the opposition ruckman, it seems at times that the opposition have no problem taking the ball away when Max is rucking. Hit outs to advantage last week were well in favour of the opposing ruckman last week

3 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

Maybe it's time our on ballers learned to rove to the opposition ruckman, it seems at times that the opposition have no problem taking the ball away when Max is rucking. Hit outs to advantage last week were well in favour of the opposing ruckman last week

so you think we should ruck aaron pederson,  & place Gawn in the forward pocket most game stretch put their defence on the rack,  as it were

 

than our sharks could shred the opp's ruckwork.

6 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

so you think we should ruck aaron pederson,  & place Gawn in the forward pocket most game stretch put their defence on the rack,  as it were

 

than our sharks could shred the opp's ruckwork.

Aaron Pederson is an A grade ruckman.

Max King is capable of playing in the ruck and indeed, he played there on Saturday at Casey without setting the house on fire. It was my understanding that he was being groomed to play as a key forward so if he's ever called upon to take the first ruckman's position, it would be a stop gap measure at best.

Let's hope Max Gawn stays healthy and Jake Spencer makes a speedy recovery.

26 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

so you think we should ruck aaron pederson,  & place Gawn in the forward pocket most game stretch put their defence on the rack,  as it were

 

than our sharks could shred the opp's ruckwork.

No. but just because you don't have a dominant ruckman all day is not the end of the world, where Max is great is his ability to gather the ball on the ground and take a pack mark, but ruckwork at times gets over rated.

17 minutes ago, Demon_spurs said:

No. but just because you don't have a dominant ruckman all day is not the end of the world, where Max is great is his ability to gather the ball on the ground and take a pack mark, but ruckwork at times gets over rated.

Sorry

he is hugely important to our chances. Not for some years have we had on ballers getting a clean run at the ball due to adroit palming

12 hours ago, Demon_spurs said:

No. but just because you don't have a dominant ruckman all day is not the end of the world, where Max is great is his ability to gather the ball on the ground and take a pack mark, but ruckwork at times gets over rated.

Unskilled ruckwork is overrated.  You may as well have a journeyman as a defensive ruck & rove to the opposition. 

Clark Keating is one of the most effective rucks I've seen used in big games.  His damage was done crashing & bashing thru the opponents,  palming the ball,  & taking heavy marks around the ground.  An aggressive ruck.  He is exactly what we need in the pocket.

23 hours ago, Redlegs said:

Dave Misson on 10/3 said Jake was running well and doing stuff on the treadmill and they would just monitor him for a week or so. Not verbatim but that was the gist of it. Hopefully he will be fit and firing all season and gets to play alongside Max a few times like he did at Geelong. Fingers crossed that he has a break out year. 

Yes as we saw at Geeling, they do work well together, and it also allows us to have another strong marking forward to help Jesse when Max rests up forward. There were also occasions last year when Jake showed considerable agility around the ground for a big man which was good to see. I think having Max AND Jake in the same team considerably strengthens it in many areas, particularly now there are limited rotations.