50 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

you may be right re going to Essendon,  but I think the Suns would like to be free of him with the culture issues they have developed,  issues on many different angles,  so opposing sides within the club it seems.   They need all going in one direction, the clubs choice, football direction.

 

I for one would not like the AFL to lose a player of Jobe Watson's caliber,  even if he did go the wrong direction, under expectation of his leaders.

The Suns do need strong leaders of which Jobe has shown onfield to be.

 

Gablett is from what I hear a distraction,  & a suitable trade IMO would benefit both clubs. & all involved.   even if he went to the Blues in a 3way trade?

 

 

Where are you getting this idea Ablett is distracting off field?  I think they have traded the coke sniffer to Freo, he was the real distraction.  Ablett was never a leader, never will be, i believe Bomber knew this and told him he will never lead the club and maybe that could be one of the reasons why he left the cats, among others.  But he is not to blame for their culture, he just didn't help it was he is not a natural leader, neither is Jobe, if he was Essendrugs would still be known as Essendon.  You say that Jobe is a strong on-field leader, yes he is, but the issues are not on-field are they?  Zarharakis (spelling) said no and they didn't punish him did they?

28 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

 

Yes,  I think gablett is distracting the players,  outside of footy.   the club needs to be rid of distractions.

 

Jobe is only doing what was expected of him from his club, via the coaches & leadership with the Docs backing to that point.  I don't excpect te players to understand fully what was going on.  so a follow the leader goes on.

 

the leaders being club official coaches & x coaches & doctors.

 

So with Jobes penalty beghind him next year,  he should get another go,  somewhere IMO.   He won't be hung-out like hird,  for doing as requested by his superiors.  he is a goodleader of young players & has a couple of years left in him at the right club.  especially a club which has gone off the rails off field.

 

Jobe is a great example to show them the right pathway.  as would Josh Kennedy from swans.

 

The Suns will be better off with a fresh start,  so trading Gablett would help refresh the culture there.  I think Eade would jump at the right offers.

This has to be the most bizarre thing I have ever read.

You reach a a whole new low..

If Ablett leaves the Suns, it is most likely to be to go back to Geelong and play as a dangerous small/medium forward on bottom dollar, nudging them into the greatest dynasty ever seen as they claim another round of premierships on the back of the Dangerfield/Selwood/Ablett/Duncan/Motlop/Blicavs midfield goalkicking midfielder star show, and cementing his spot as the greatest player to ever play the game.

I mean, that's what I'd do if I were a freak footballer with more money than I knew what to do with and nothing left to achieve but immortality.

But then again, I think Geelong are a wild smoky for the premiership this year, so I'm clearly off my nut.

If Ablett leaves the Suns, it is most likely to be to go back to Geelong and play as a dangerous small/medium forward on bottom dollar, nudging them into the greatest dynasty ever seen as they claim another round of premierships on the back of the Dangerfield/Selwood/Ablett/Duncan/Motlop/Blicavs midfield goalkicking midfielder star show, and cementing his spot as the greatest player to ever play the game.

I mean, that's what I'd do if I were a freak footballer with more money than I knew what to do with and nothing left to achieve but immortality.

But then again, I think Geelong are a wild smoky for the premiership this year, so I'm clearly off my nut.

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

May be he could play tennis with Sharipova 

chook - a contender for post of the year, or at least the NAB series. ?

2 hours ago, chook fowler said:

May be he could play tennis with Sharipova 

chook - a contender for post of the year, or at least the NAB series. ?

Future? Does Jobe have an AFL future?

3 hours ago, AzzKikA said:

Where are you getting this idea Ablett is distracting off field?  I think they have traded the coke sniffer to Freo, he was the real distraction.  Ablett was never a leader, never will be, i believe Bomber knew this and told him he will never lead the club and maybe that could be one of the reasons why he left the cats, among others.  But he is not to blame for their culture, he just didn't help it was he is not a natural leader, neither is Jobe, if he was Essendrugs would still be known as Essendon.  You say that Jobe is a strong on-field leader, yes he is, but the issues are not on-field are they?  Zarharakis (spelling) said no and they didn't punish him did they?

 

thats right,  gablett isn't a real leader.  he was struggling with it at Catters,  & tried hard at Suns, but its not in him.

 

there is/was the drugs side,  &  the god side pulling different ways, drifting apart.   Its not good to be having strong outside influences that can affect the teams cohesion,  within an elite sports club.

I believe there is many differing groups, or was.  Also a problem of having too many elite kids,  & no real mature age leaders,  to keep a cap on them.   Gablett imo isn't strong enough, outspoken enough,  to put it straight with those kids. 

 

Straight talking is needed.  Eade will straight talk,  behind close doors with intensity.   I doubt McKenna had this in him either.

so I think now to chanege the culture the old leaders who oversaw the pasr=t culture & failed have to go, to allow a tyotally new leadership group to take over with a fresh appraoch & discipline. 

Its like us,  we couldn't really change the old rotten culture,  with Green-Bruce still there in the club,  we would still be battling,  but Roosy would have pensioned them off anyway.  With diplomacy.   Moloney had to go also,  ahead of Green & Bruce.

The one we should have kept on was the first one put out to pasture.   Jnr McDonald was the ideal leader to change the culture with.   He was the only one who was 100% responsible as a demon player. & this is why Sheedy snapped him up straight away. 

 

We didn't just shoot ourselves in the foot over this one,  we blew it off with both barrels.

 

back to the Suns,  its time for Gablett to go,  before they tap him on the back,  for a chat.

 

it could work out a win/win,,,, or a win/win/win,  come 2017 ???

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

This has to be the most bizarre thing I have ever read.

You reach a a whole new low..

...

anything you do not understand,  is a threat somehow,  so its stupid..     or is it?     just that you do not understand this stuff well ? 

 

 

I like Jobe

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Future? Does Jobe have an AFL future?

 

He does,  if he wants it,  but I sense & its also in media,  that he's disillusioned with all that's happened,  & now looks like he'll lose the medal as well.  & should.

..... a little similar to the young Cassius Clay when he threw his Olympic medal in the river.    "no Vietnamese called me a"   drug cheat !

 

Going interstate to the sun & surf,   could be just the ticket for this burdened man.

 

47 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

He does,  if he wants it,  but I sense & its also in media,  that he's disillusioned with all that's happened,  & now looks like he'll lose the medal as well.  & should.

..... a little similar to the young Cassius Clay when he threw his Olympic medal in the river.    "no Vietnamese called me a"   drug cheat !

Going interstate to the sun & surf,   could be just the ticket for this burdened man.

 

I personally think he'll be back with the drug cheats for 2017 and then retire when he realises he isn't part of the future there.

31 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

I personally think he'll be back with the drug cheats for 2017 and then retire when he realises he isn't part of the future there.

Thats why he should go asap.  He has,  at the right clubs,  a couple of years of good service to them,  & to the game.   & he shouldn't retire with the essendrugs scandal still fresh in peoples minds,  imo.

 

Jobe has been a great player,  & a class above even Goddard as seen in recent years.

 

Leader of the drug cheats who currently has in his possession an illegally obtained Brownlow medal which should be in the hands of those who won it cleanly.

The man has had 3 years to do what sharapova did inside a month and take responsibility, and has so far failed to do so.

8 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Leader of the drug cheats who currently has in his possession an illegally obtained Brownlow medal which should be in the hands of those who won it cleanly.

The man has had 3 years to do what sharapova did inside a month and take responsibility, and has so far failed to do so.

They are all still crouching behind the "no positive test" argument. Sharapova isn't so lucky.

After all this time, I think it's clear that we will never see any of the drug cheats come clean, and admit fault.

 

Too bad for the cheats that WADA and CAS don't give a fig what they think. EAD Jobe. Hand the medal back.

I believe that Jobe should not have any future in playing football after he serves his suspension and the sooner he gives back his ill-gotten Brownlow the better. I do not want him anywhere near the Demons.

11 hours ago, Peter Griffen said:

I personally think he'll be back with the drug cheats for 2017 and then retire when he realises he isn't part of the future there.

Im sure the club will want to make a big song and dance about 'their hard done by hero" returning to the fold.