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Firstly, my apologies if this is addressed elsewhere.

Can anyone please explain to me the rational behind benching a goal kicker after they have scored? Over the las few weeks I have been wat5ching replays of a number of games and I just cannot see the effectiveness of this.

It is not just melbourne it is all clubs that are doing it.

Last night I watched a replay of the St Kilda game and after Hogan had kicked a goal he wa benched and did not look happy about it.



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    Maybe, but it is not only the forwards that get pulled after kicking a goal. even the mids get a seat on the bench after kicking a goal.

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    Good Q. Never understood that one either. When you are hot then you should be on the ground.

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    Yeah apologies, I did edit my post.

    Like I said, it's really the only opportunity for a forward to go to the bench, and as for mids they may have been coming off for a spell anyway.

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    I asked a professional once and was told it was due to some special hyper-extension of the leg in the act of goal-kicking. I asked again and was met with a shrug.

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    I find it odd that when they kick a point they stay on.
    Kick a goal and yer off.

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      On 04/08/2015 at 08:33, Fork said:

    I find it odd that when they kick a point they stay on.

    Kick a goal and yer off.

    Not sure if serious or not fork.

    If it's a point, the opposition kicks the ball straight back in.

    If the point kicker runs off to the bench, you're one man down for the kick in.

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      On 04/08/2015 at 08:32, CHF said:

    Skuit, I think I would have called BS on that.

    I did. Ex-AFL player and current coach of an NEAFL team. Said that was the reasoning and then shrugged as if he thought it was BS too.

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      On 04/08/2015 at 08:35, Ethan Tremblay said:

    Not sure if serious or not fork.

    If it's a point, the opposition kicks the ball straight back in.

    If the point kicker runs off to the bench, you're one man down for the kick in.

    That's exactly why it happens

    after a goal is kicked, it is is the only time you are gauranteed to be able to swap a player on/off without risking an enemy player being left unguarded and potentially costing you a goal

    so everyone knowing that the goalikicker is coming straight off just makes a touch easier to do all the flurry of changes

    its stupid but its one of many stupid developments in the modern game

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    Was it against the Saints that Hogan had a spell after about 40 seconds? And I recall him half running toward the bench looking confused/arguing a point once after a goal and was sent back.

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    I've heard that it's to give extra time to a player that last participated in play and therefore exerted themself. That is, the ball hasn't nearly got back to the centre by the time they reach the bench, so it's effectively an extra couple of minutes rest where there is no active play. That means they get back on the ground quicker, missing less action. Doesn't make sense when a forward who has done little running kicks a goal, but overall it works for the team, particulary for midfielders. Interesting to note if this continues the more the interchange cap is reduced, which I think it will. Possibly down to 50 per match over the next 5 years.

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      On 04/08/2015 at 10:23, Moonshadow said:

    I've heard that it's to give extra time to a player that last participated in play and therefore exerted themself. That is, the ball hasn't nearly got back to the centre by the time they reach the bench, so it's effectively an extra couple of minutes rest where there is no active play. That means they get back on the ground quicker, missing less action. Doesn't make sense when a forward who has done little running kicks a goal, but overall it works for the team, particulary for midfielders. Interesting to note if this continues the more the interchange cap is reduced, which I think it will. Possibly down to 50 per match over the next 5 years.

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      On 04/08/2015 at 10:34, Moonshadow said:

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    More of a flasher/voyeur I would think.

    Different sort of twisted perversion.

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      On 04/08/2015 at 10:36, Biffen said:

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    People really only notice this because they notice the forward kicking the goal, especially if it is early in the quarter.

    It's all about getting the rotations going. The mids have usually only spent a small amount of time on the ground, and you want to keep them there for more than 1 or 2 minutes. The backs haven't done anything at all ( because the ball has gone down the other end).

    So the forward is the logical start to the process.

    As Moonshadow notes, the next rotation is bringing the forward back on, and probably moving his original replacement up to the middle, and a mid then comes off.

    If you don't start somewhere early you finish with 3 mids all needing a break at the same time.

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    Maybe this is a contributing reason for there being nothing near a century goal kicker these days.

    Imagine trying to tell Peter Hudson to come off the ground after every goal he kicked. Or Plugger!

    Hopefully if the interchanges become heavily capped this nonsense will stop.

    For example a FF who marks and kicks from the goal square has to run half the length of the ground, grab a few seconds 'rest' then run hell for leather back again.

    It all defies logic to my simple mind. Sure rotate mids, but KPP forwards don't all run from FF to HB and back like our Jesse does. And maybe if the rotations are cut they won't which would probably / possibly be good for reducing congestion in the game.

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    Can't help but think we'll look back on all this in 10 years as one of the more stupid and pointless fads of recent times. Along with Ned Kelly beards and "reality" TV.

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    Akum, Most likely right, But I am sure the Ned Kelly beards will last longer than this fad.

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