Classy mid with good skills. Played his juniors as a forward.

Highly rated by Port, but has been kept out due to injuries.

I would throw our second rounder at him in a heart beat.

He wouldn't be a bad get. I wanted him last year.

189cm 88kg inside midfielder who was a melbourne supporter growing up. He would be in our best 22 every week.

what do you know that I don't, or others don't?

He dated someone I know. That's all I'll say.

He dated someone I know. That's all I'll say.

Was it BBO?

Was it BBO?

You're on the money Frosty. Good get.

He dated someone I know. That's all I'll say.

OK fair enough

Which is where we recruited vandeBerg from (in the Rookie draft).

Note: this post refers to Josh Kelly (No. 1 draft pick).

He was a number 2 pick and it's the same league Tom Mitchell was averaging 50 touches a week in.

Moores mum taught me maths at school as well!

This should in part be merged with the 2015 contracts thread. I keep reading throw big $$$$ at player x. We currently have about 6-7 players tied up until the end of 2016 who aren't AFL standard, and some of them our biggest earners. From memory only 1 maybe 2 was Roos doing. Problem is you can only move on 11 per year, and sadly I thought those days we're behind us. But reality is our list is a mess. Again, I hope their contracts were front loaded, if that's the case we might be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat. A handful of injuries and our list is exposed. Thankfully Hogan is signed up until 2017, otherwise we'd be screwed. A question I asked the other day, (this was based on hearing about Roos/Longmire looking at potential draftees) how many on our list fill these two criteria 1- natural competitor 2- can use the footy? I'd say less than half the list. But how many fall under promising junior(possibly developed wrong)/great clubman/great speaker/nice bloke......

It's time to cut the crap. If they can't kick the ball under Roos/Goodwin/McCartney they never will be able to. Just a thought, who'd take Dawes if offered up? The lions? Would anyone? The whole "premiership player/leadership tag" has worn thin. These are the kind of things I hope the club looks into come years end. I wish Frost didn't get injured. The possible Trengove trade showed the realisation that we need to become ruthless. There are a couple of similar decisions pending at years end. I can only hope that these ones go through.

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I'd add to that we had the luxury of clubs thinking that player x was actually a good player but we couldn't develop him ie Sylvia. But with our current coaching panel we no longer have that meaning trade values are at rock bottom.

He wouldn't be a bad get. I wanted him last year.

189cm 88kg inside midfielder who was a melbourne supporter growing up. He would be in our best 22 every week.

I really hate this tag as it means virtually nothing once they are in the system, and i'm not picking on you DD as it is used voraciously by many on here. So many great players currently playing supported the MFC growing up such as Buddy and Pendlebury, but they wouldn't even poop on us now or when they were younger, so i find this "supported the mfc growing up" term to be so irrelevant in trade prospects. But you know what isn't irrelevant when trading? Competitiveness, progress, success and money. Throw/show those things to players and they will come bounding to the door. At the moment we can only show one: money.

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He dated someone I know. That's all I'll say.

mate, they are AFL players. Most have dated/conquered the majority of solid look girls in their area, and some of the ugly ones.

Your friend didn't get a call back, big whoopy!

But still Vickery is like Aish to me. A player to similar to Watts (Vickery) and Toumpas (Aish). Leave 'em alone and let them be someone else's problem.

We need a ruckman just as bad as midfielders, Zac Smith and Dylan Shiel, Treloar and Bellchambers...

I really hate this tag as it means virtually nothing once they are in the system, and i'm not picking on you DD as it is used voraciously by many on here. So many great players currently playing supported the MFC growing up such as Buddy and Pendlebury, but they wouldn't even poop on us now or when they were younger, so i find this "supported the mfc growing up" term to be so irrelevant in trade prospects. But you know what isn't irrelevant when trading? Competitiveness, progress, success and money. Throw/show those things to players and they will come bounding to the door. At the moment we can only show one: money.

No i do agree it does means virtually nothing.

If Pederson and Watts do alright in Hogan's forward line without Dawes, dangle ol' brick hands up to Bris for Aish. The value for a big forward to them becomes greater than ours if it turns out Dawes isn't required, and with Frost another prospect to test before years end assuming this toe doesn't drag on Hogan back style. Could net us another Mid in Aish, albeit with question marks, without diminishing our other trade stocks to go hard for proven guns.

If [Pedersen] and Watts do alright in Hogan's forward line without Dawes, dangle ol' brick hands up to Bris for Aish. The value for a big forward to them becomes greater than ours if it turns out Dawes isn't required, and with Frost another prospect to test before years end assuming this toe doesn't drag on Hogan back style. Could net us another Mid in Aish, albeit with question marks, without diminishing our other trade stocks to go hard for proven guns.

Definately like the sound of getting a midfielder for Dawes, but Aish is not the one we want.

mate, they are AFL players. Most have dated/conquered the majority of solid look girls in their area, and some of the ugly ones.

Your friend didn't get a call back, big whoopy!

But still Vickery is like Aish to me. A player to similar to Watts (Vickery) and Toumpas (Aish). Leave 'em alone and let them be someone else's problem.

That's not what happened actually. I'm not going to post what happened on a public forum though.

To get someone of the calibre of Shiel or even Kelly, GWS would want Tom McDonald.

Tall defenders are the only weakness in their list.

To get someone of the calibre of Shiel or even Kelly, GWS would want Tom McDonald.

Tall defenders are the only weakness in their list.

The new franchises have too much top talent to pay overs for one player. Shiel is worth it and they may deem that, however, if he wants to come home, there's not much they can do, but try and deal with someone. That's the power players wield these days.

Carlton and Melbourne will be best placed to deal with them (read, have the best picks to give GWS). And not that it matters much, but Shiel did support Carlton as a youngster.

Offer Danger 7 million over 6 years & Leunberger 2.5 million over 4 years. Would be a good start to the trade period!

Offer Danger 7 million over 6 years & Leunberger 2.5 million over 4 years. Would be a good start to the trade period!

Not if they said no it wouldn't lol

Definately like the sound of getting a midfielder for Dawes, but Aish is not the one we want.

Again, which clubs need a "Dawes" and what is his worth?

Offer Danger 7 million over 6 years & Leunberger 2.5 million over 4 years. Would be a good start to the trade period!

Could we afford that with the current dead wood on the list?

Classy mid with good skills. Played his juniors as a forward.

Highly rated by Port, but has been kept out due to injuries.

I would throw our second rounder at him in a heart beat.

And actually expressed a desire/hope to be recruited by the Demons during the Bailey years.

Not if they said no it wouldn't lol

Good point!

Could we afford that with the current dead wood on the list?

Reckon we could. Clark salary now free, Dawes only has 1 year on his conract left, I'd assume Trenners will get a reduced 1 year deal. Trade Watts, Howe & Grimes out and I'd expect us to have a fair bit of cash available.

Good point!

Reckon we could. Clark salary now free, Dawes only has 1 year on his conract left, I'd assume Trenners will get a reduced 1 year deal. Trade Watts, Howe & Grimes out and I'd expect us to have a fair bit of cash available.

If that scenario were to happen that would be bloody sensational. I think a couple of players could do with a fresh start and both player and club would benefit.