Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Currently 6 senior list vacancies. Trade out Dawes, Watts, Howe, Grimes Trade in Melksham, Hrovat, Currie, Moore Promote off Rookie List: Vandenberg, Harmes, White Delisted Free Agents: Adcock, Mason Shaw, Cameron Giles Delist & re-rookie: M. Jones, Terlich Natonal Draft: Charlie Curnow, Kurt Murtimer Rookie Draft: Jack Watson I'd like to think that our list management team can achieve a much better outcome than that. 20 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Currently 6 senior list vacancies. Trade out Dawes, Watts, Howe, Grimes Trade in Melksham, Hrovat, Currie, Moore Promote off Rookie List: Vandenberg, Harmes, White Delisted Free Agents: Adcock, Mason Shaw, Cameron Giles Delist & re-rookie: M. Jones, Terlich Natonal Draft: Charlie Curnow, Kurt Murtimer Rookie Draft: Jack Watson Thank God your not in charge of our list management.. That's a horrible and utter bad list change that it would set us back another 5 years. 3 Quote
Adam The God 30,745 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Who we do think are our bottom 10 players? That is, on our entire list. Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I'd like to think that our list management team can achieve a much better outcome than that.I'd like to think they can to.Don't think there's any big fish out there for us this off season unfortunately. Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Who we do think are our bottom 10 players? That is, on our entire list.I will happily answer that in a few weeks. Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Who we do think are our bottom 10 players? That is, on our entire list.The other part to that is players not getting a game should be kids learning the craft not dead wood in their mid 20's. Edited September 19, 2015 by Al's Demons 1 Quote
Optimus D 283 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 A lot of posters want to trade out jack watts but I cannot see it happening unless we give him way for nothing. Just cannot see another team being interested in him. It's his 7th year and he still has not made a position his own and is he a player that can help them take the next step up the ladder. He has just been a contributor in a average bottom six. Maybe being a bit harsh on jack, but just cannot see his clear value to anyone else. Quote
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Currently 6 senior list vacancies. Trade out Dawes, Watts, Howe, Grimes Trade in Melksham, Hrovat, Currie, Moore Promote off Rookie List: Vandenberg, Harmes, White Delisted Free Agents: Adcock, Mason Shaw, Cameron Giles Delist & re-rookie: M. Jones, Terlich Natonal Draft: Charlie Curnow, Kurt Murtimer Rookie Draft: Jack Watson It's nice to know that Barry Prendergast still takes an interest in Melbourne. 5 Quote
Tough Kent 2,138 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I will happily answer that in a few weeks. What? Once they've been delisted or traded? Thanks Quote
Neitz the Great 557 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Have heard some serious rumours about us and Hamish Hartlett what are people's thoughts on him and what's he worth? 1 Quote
MadAsHell 4,217 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Have heard some serious rumours about us and Hamish Hartlett what are people's thoughts on him and what's he worth?Good player.Can we on trade Melksham for him? 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Have heard some serious rumours about us and Hamish Hartlett what are people's thoughts on him and what's he worth? Where are these rumors coming from exactly? Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Where are these rumors coming from exactly? Probably BF or FB Quote
Moneider96 1,045 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Signing Shultz and Dixon, you would think they would have to get rid of someone. 1 Quote
dee-luded 2,959 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Your maths... 6 deletions from the PL. If you lose 6 apples and gain 2 apples, how many apples will you go and get from the cart to end up with the same amount of apples? 4 more apples! Plus at least 2 rookie apples... Is it really necessary to put your information directly at another person, in such a derogatory way, rpfc ? .... you simply could have explained that, without your insecurities needing you to put another human down at a personal level. I mean they didn't jamb your toe with an axe, or anything. Edited September 19, 2015 by dee-luded Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 What? Once they've been delisted or traded? ThanksIm thinking your taking the pi££. After all trades/draft have occurred, depending on who's brought in, some senior players who were once getting a game on a regular basis might find themselves as depth or even bottom ten on the list players. People have bemoaned the likes of Michie/Newton/Riley coming to the club. But if they're only given two year deals it can't hurt to use 2-3 spots on the list for fringe players at other clubs because everyone now and then you find one. The key is limiting them to two years unless the show something. 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Probably BF or FB Thoughts so Quote
Elwood 3184 1,365 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I'd like to think they can to. Don't think there's any big fish out there for us this off season unfortunately. Even if there are no big fish available, that doesn't mean that you go after minnows.Virtually all of the players you mention from other clubs are struggling to get games with their current clubs or have been delisted which puts them in the same category as the NQR's who we've just delisted. Your proposal is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Quote
Bombay Airconditioning 6,510 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Even if there are no big fish available, that doesn't mean that you go after minnows. Virtually all of the players you mention from other clubs are struggling to get games with their current clubs or have been delisted which puts them in the same category as the NQR's who we've just delisted. Your proposal is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. There are plenty of examples that prove that point wrong.I'm happy to keep 2-4 max spots on the list for "select" recycled players(not an open door policy) Initial 2 year contract, but not on 400k. Quote
Grimes is Great 183 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Howe is going to GC, would prefer to stay at the dees but we won't match $$$. Steve Johnson going to GC also most likely if he decides to keep playing. Quote
whatwhat say what 23,864 Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Interesting listening to ABC and SEN yesterday. ABC with one of the journos from the Age and one from AFL Media are pretty adamant that Melksham to Dees for our second rounder will happen early on once trade period opens up, and that it's probably a good deal for both parties. The Age journo's brother is Howe's manager, and he was reluctant to comment on him, but it seems his asking price has fallen by some $2-300k, and he's happy to stay with us - primarily because no one is all that interested in him at his asking price. Listening to SEN, it seems that the story is the same for both Garland and Watts - with the former, there seems to a general feeling that he's explored his options and his contract offer will be higher at Melbourne than anywhere else. With the latter it was really interesting - slobbo said that he's been shopped and there's been absolutely zero interest in him, especially as he has a year to go on his contract, and the vibe is that any club recruiting him would only want to pay him a bare minimum contract not what he's on at melbourne. it seems that, like us, other clubs have no idea what to make of him; they can all see his upside but think he lacks the basic fundamentals to be a regular AFL player. the general acceptance seemed to be that he'd stay with us for at least the next year, if not beyond, as no one has any idea as to where he fits into a side's make-up as he's lacks a true position and seeminly lacks the desire to become an AFL-level player. 9 Quote
samcantstandya 1,081 Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 The other part to that is players not getting a game should be kids learning the craft not dead wood in their mid 20's. I totally agree. Quote
Whispering_Jack 31,368 Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 There are plenty of examples that prove that point wrong. I'm happy to keep 2-4 max spots on the list for "select" recycled players(not an open door policy) Initial 2 year contract, but not on 400k. There are plenty of individual examples that might prove the point about NQR recycled players wrong but the one given above was a virtual across the board scenario which wouldn't appeal to me. Quote
samcantstandya 1,081 Posted September 20, 2015 Posted September 20, 2015 We went after Riley who was NQR etc, we have to stop getting stop gap players. I want us to go for quality or go for youth in the draft. I especially don't want us to trade with Essendon they are notoriously unrealistic and want overs. Quote
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