On 08/02/2016 at 01:36, nutbean said:

One of the papers suggested that there were issues mid year and were working with him.

What's the link ?

 

  On 08/02/2016 at 00:14, ProDee said:

Hogan has the chance to be the difference.  He knows it, the players know it and the coaches know it.  I suspect he's the type of character to see what this evolving group can deliver.  Will he take ownership and responsibility for what he can contribute ?  Champions usually want to put the team on their back and show the way. 

If Hogan goes post a premiership so be it, but for him to leave before the club has made significant inroads it would be a disaster, because he's the type of player that will help make us a destination club.  But I suspect he'll stay.

And if he ever does leave I think he'll remain in Melbourne, which is why I'm confident he won't. 

 

I agree. I think he's firmly within the talented younger core of this club all of whom I reckon have made an informal pact to stick together and seek to achieve ultimate success together.

They know it's in their hands: the club finally has the coaching, recruiting and development staff, the infrastructure, the back office, the financial resources etc to enable this to happen. In short, the MFC is as good a vehicle as any other club right now. Much is in their hands, as a group and individually.

And I don't really fear losing Hogan to Freo. He seems to like living in Melbourne. The threat of Hawthorn or Collingwood concerns me more, but this threat will be minimised if the team starts to perform as we hope it will.

It's a great story for this group if they can take this former basket case of a club to a flag. Hogan would be spearheading that charge - not a situation/narrative easily replicated elsewhere.

 

 

  On 08/02/2016 at 01:51, AzzKikA said:

So you just remember reading it somewhere at some stage through the year?  From whom, was it GWS saying it or a jerno assuming it Robbo style and after the fact?

Anyway, my fears still stand, the players have all the power.

It was the paper quoting GWS. Call it what you like but there is something definitely "fragile" about McCarthy. Compare him to Trengove. Injured for the best part of two years, almost shipped off to Richmond. Does nothing but knuckles down and gives it his best shot at making it back.

I do agree that players have more power than they have ever had but not all - if you are a free agent then definitely, Not that I like the game of "Chicken" but with Hogan, if he wanted to leave and go to Freo - either Freo would have to meet our demands or Hogan can agree to our terms or if there is a complete impasse and he wants out and we want play ball he would have to take pot luck in the draft ( although we are disadvantaged by this). It is a rarity that players sit out because they didn't get to their destination of choice. However it is now a rarity that if players truly wants our that the trade is not done.

The players that don't have power are the fringe dwellers - Ro Bail - thanks for your efforts - contract expired - see ya !

 

  On 08/02/2016 at 03:07, nutbean said:

It was the paper quoting GWS. Call it what you like but there is something definitely "fragile" about McCarthy. Compare him to Trengove. Injured for the best part of two years, almost shipped off to Richmond. Does nothing but knuckles down and gives it his best shot at making it back.

I do agree that players have more power than they have ever had but not all - if you are a free agent then definitely, Not that I like the game of "Chicken" but with Hogan, if he wanted to leave and go to Freo - either Freo would have to meet our demands or Hogan can agree to our terms or if there is a complete impasse and he wants out and we want play ball he would have to take pot luck in the draft ( although we are disadvantaged by this). It is a rarity that players sit out because they didn't get to their destination of choice. However it is now a rarity that if players truly wants out that the trade is not done.

The players that don't have power are the fringe dwellers - Ro Bail - thanks for your efforts - contract expired - see ya !

I still think he is being a little brat.

Agree with the fringe players point.

  On 08/02/2016 at 03:07, nutbean said:

It was the paper quoting GWS. 

 

What was the quote ?

Hogan will be a 1 club player

glad we sorted that one out

  On 08/02/2016 at 08:19, Ethan Tremblay said:

If it did happen (and FWIW I think he'll stay a Dee) I'd be gutted, might even throw a few tantrums, however I'd never stop watching AFL. It is quite funny though, last season I found myself saying "I cant wait to watch Hogan this weekend", instead of "I can't wait to watch the Dee's this weekend." 

 

I know what you mean Ethan. I appreciate that Hogan is a very different case but I used to feel the same about Jurrah's 36 appearances in the red and blue, the Wiz at the height of his powers, the shooting star that was Allen Jakovich and the head-banded Ox. 

They were all players that had more talent than any one else on the field and there was an anticipation as to what they would do next. 

Not in the same class is Jeff Garlett but, for me, there is that anticipation when he is near the ball. i love the Hogan/Garlett combination 

  On 08/02/2016 at 08:54, fndee said:

Not in the same class is Jeff Garlett but, for me, there is that anticipation when he is near the ball. i love the Hogan/Garlett combination 

I love the anticipation of Jeffy running full tilt inside 50 and wondering if he's going to (a) shank one sideways to Hoges unexpectedly or (b) kick a goal or (c) miss. We're definitely improving, so many options!

I love Jeff Garlett.

 

  On 08/02/2016 at 07:32, Petraccattack said:

Hogan will be a 1 club player

I'm glad someone clarified this!!

  On 08/02/2016 at 10:19, Ron Burgundy said:

I love Jeff Garlett.

 

Second

After the TS debacle players leaving doesn't consume my time anymore he will stay to he's a free agent hopefully we snare a flag with him . imagine if Petrecca is similar to Jake Stringer plenty to look forward to.

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  On 08/02/2016 at 20:38, Middymalt said:

After the TS debacle players leaving doesn't consume my time anymore he will stay to he's a free agent hopefully we snare a flag with him . 

I'm the same. I am fully invested in all our players but with the understanding that it is now "here today, gone tomorrow".

  On 08/02/2016 at 10:19, Ron Burgundy said:

I love Jeff Garlett.

 

I love Mick Malthouse for giving him to us for free (sorry, I realise this is a Jesse thread).

  On 08/02/2016 at 21:35, small but forward said:

I love Mick Malthouse for giving him to us for free (sorry, I realise this is a Jesse thread).

i wouldn't love him too much. He also highly recommended Neeld. He still owes us. A lot

Dont worry, Jesse isn't going anywhere:

YAY he can smile!

And i hadn't noticed the MFC logo on the Sherrin before, nice, may have to get one.

 

 

Edited February 9, 20169 yr by AzzKikA

  On 09/02/2016 at 04:16, AzzKikA said:

Dont worry, Jesse isn't going anywhere:

YAY he can smile!

And i hadn't noticed the MFC logo on the Sherrin before, nice, may have to get one.

 

 

That's a worry, smiling with Petracca. Maybe they are both off to Freo!  Haha

"half the salary cap each" ...laughing....

 

  On 09/02/2016 at 04:16, AzzKikA said:

Dont worry, Jesse isn't going anywhere:

YAY he can smile!

And i hadn't noticed the MFC logo on the Sherrin before, nice, may have to get one.

 

 

The moment they found out Howe broke his hand playing frisbee with his dog......

Glad that pic came up the day after I said Jesse would be a  1 club player

Thats the smile of a man that just signed a long term deal 

  On 02/02/2016 at 21:38, Stinger said:

it would also mount a case for hawks - or any destination/powerhouse club - to poach him on massive dollars too. 

Franchise tag would only apply to the players current club. A franchised player could not be poached by another club in FA.

  On 09/02/2016 at 12:10, Dr. Gonzo said:

Franchise tag would only apply to the players current club. A franchised player could not be poached by another club in FA.

Yep sign here for a 1 year deal, and here's next year's contract for you to sign as well as our 'Franchise' player for stupid money that will last a lifetime, by which time we will have signed the one after you...... easy to get around that type of rule

  On 09/02/2016 at 04:16, AzzKikA said:

Dont worry, Jesse isn't going anywhere:

YAY he can smile!

And i hadn't noticed the MFC logo on the Sherrin before, nice, may have to get one.

 

 

They both look too happy. They're gone.

  On 09/02/2016 at 04:16, AzzKikA said:

Dont worry, Jesse isn't going anywhere:

YAY he can smile!

And i hadn't noticed the MFC logo on the Sherrin before, nice, may have to get one.

 

 

Is that Jack Watts' crackin gags at training?

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