Brayshaw - had an impact

Cross - was found out

Dawes - limited big man

Dunn- always kept trying

Frost - just lacks finesse

Garland- one dimension game

Garlett - was totally flat

Hogan - classy but limited

Howe- game from hell

Jamar - second half nightmare

Jetta- loose and slow

Jones - was brilliantly tagged

Kent - had little impact

Lumumba - disappeared when needed

McDonald - our only winner

Newton - slow but useful

Salem - skillful not damaging

Tyson - continued poor form

VandenBerg - no heroics today

Vince - embarrassing and unready

Viney - played heart out

Watts - the bad twin

Hogan - Carey-like grabs

Often find myself disagreeing with you joeboy but I haven't totally today.

A couple of things I'd change:

Vince - clearly not ready (think embarrassing is a bit wide of the mark)

Cross - Slowing, almost over (can't keep up with the Shiels of this world)

Viney - Get the ball (think we limited him by keeping the hard tag. Would've moved him to Shiel early too! Misstep by the coaches)

Watts - far from worst (don't think people quite realise how much ground he covers)

Watts - far from worst (don't think people quite realise how much ground he covers)

He did move around, but you have to redline it when it's your turn.

He did move around, but you have to redline it when it's your turn.

I do know what you mean, but I think he stands out in that regard simply because we look for it. In many cases he has worked right up the ground and is turned around by some little fella with after burners and needs to go, but by that point he's spent. People also fail to remember that he's not a small fella. I think this particular point is over played, my criticism of him his he often slips off his tackles.

Anway, point still stands. He was mid list in terms of performance today (which is still ordinary, but not sackable by any stretch).

Kent and Viney were the only one's that tried to chase down the GWS midfield. The number of times Kent ran past other Melbourne players to get to the player was embarrassing.

Melbourne: still no leadership

yes agree we lacked leadership with Jones tagged.

Where was our next tier of midfield leaders. Viney ... yes. Tyson, Cross, Vince ... no.

I do know what you mean, but I think he stands out in that regard simply because we look for it. In many cases he has worked right up the ground and is turned around by some little fella with after burners and needs to go, but by that point he's spent. People also fail to remember that he's not a small fella. I think this particular point is over played, my criticism of him his he often slips off his tackles.

Anway, point still stands. He was mid list in terms of performance today (which is still ordinary, but not sackable by any stretch).

Until he holds his marks (or more realistically can at least break even contests with big defenders as Dawes does) then I couldn't care how big he is. His work rate seems really good. Agree about the tackling, it's the glaring weakness. He nailed one today, the one on Ward. Very pleasing. He's still a strange player as a 3rd tall forward who can't really hold a grab. I guess if the work rate is there it's about the other players doing enough to get it to him.

17 goals last week. 7 til the half today. The midfield is my big concern not the forwards.

Kent and Viney were the only one's that tried to chase down the GWS midfield. The number of times Kent ran past other Melbourne players to get to the player was embarrassing.

I also noticed this. I think a running mid like toump or having JKH to cycle threw midfield would have been a better option.

This game was lost at the selection table for mine.

Vince was way underdone. We needed midfield run and spread.

I rarely agree with your "3 word analysis", and today is no different.

We have already had one of these three word games in the pre season

Whole Team

1st half - great team effort

2nd half - stayed in sheds

We have already had one of these three word games in the pre season

Whole Team

1st half - great team effort

2nd half - stayed in sheds

1st half - Roos can coach

2nd half - Roos can't coach

Dawes is such a dilemma for me. He uses his body well but he just can't mark the ball, which you want from a guy in the position he plays. At this point in time, he's a stop gap I suppose but he can be pretty frustrating. Far from the worst against the Giants though.

I thought Watts had a go. He is clearly a changed man, and en route to a breakout year.

Mids lack pace!

Maybe carrying injuries.

Maybe next week

Maybe next week

Frog - an optimistic lad

I thought Watts had a go. He is clearly a changed man, and en route to a breakout year.

Poor delusion supporter

Second half - thankfully, didn't watch

First Half: Great team playing.

Second Half: Not my job. Wait for someone else to do it.

First Half: Great team playing.

Second Half: Not my job. Wait for someone else to do it.

Pretty accurate. I can't believe the difference in the first and second halves. I actually don't think I've seen such a change halfway through a game, ever... even when we were worse than pathetic.

I'm willing to put this in the box marked 'Still Learning How to Win' but jeez, this can't happen again or else it shows how little we've improved. I still believe we are a better side than GWS and should have beaten them, but that obviously counts for very little when the scores say otherwise.

Testicles crossed we can turn it around this week.

Pretty accurate. I can't believe the difference in the first and second halves. I actually don't think I've seen such a change halfway through a game, ever... even when we were worse than pathetic.

I'm willing to put this in the box marked 'Still Learning How to Win' but jeez, this can't happen again or else it shows how little we've improved. I still believe we are a better side than GWS and should have beaten them, but that obviously counts for very little when the scores say otherwise.

Testes crossed we can turn it around this week.

You have seen this before, but have banished it from memory, i know i have seen it MANY times before, but for some strange reason cannot remember exactly when it was.

If anything we are a better side on paper than last year, and we beat Adelaide, testes crossed they remember this for 4 qtrs.

You have seen this before, but have banished it from memory, i know i have seen it MANY times before, but for some strange reason cannot remember exactly when it was.

If anything we are a better side on paper than last year, and we beat Adelaide, testes crossed they remember this for 4 qtrs.

I've seen something similar but I don't think I've seen such a total wilt with basically no resistance. Maybe us having beaten GC last week makes it a lot worse... That's probably why.